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Maybe I'm the only one, but I really didn't care at all if Laurie killed herself(I barely cared about Laurie at all), and I've found this last season to be pretty underwhelming. I am hoping for a mind blowing finale though in the vein of International Assassin.
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UmOk posted:She pretended to be catatonic for years for attention Uh, when was this established?
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May 24, 2017 09:38
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UmOk posted:She pretended to be catatonic for years for attention. She wasn't pretending to be catatonic. She sustained a serious head injury from a car accident during the Departure. Her being on the Other Side probably signified that her mind was gone until she recovered. You can't fake being catatonic for literal years. Is this one of those infamous "goons are bad at watching television" incidents I hear about so frequently?
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May 24, 2017 11:03
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UmOk is usually a solid poster. That was a goofy thing he posted but you should cut him some slack IMO.
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May 24, 2017 11:15
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.....I think it was just a joke, you guys.
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May 24, 2017 11:16
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UmOK was joking. Also, I think Laurie wanted to give the lighter to Kevin which is why she flipped out on Nora.
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May 24, 2017 12:01
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It's hard to tell who's joking nowadays  I'm sorry for being thick though
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May 24, 2017 12:32
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Vanderdeath posted:It's hard to tell who's joking nowadays We've all done it, no worries!
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May 24, 2017 12:50
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Yeah that was just believable enough to take seriously. Between our complete inability to watch TV with any level of success and goon face blindness, I could see someone literally thinking that.
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May 24, 2017 15:19
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goon face blindness is my favorite thing
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May 24, 2017 15:21
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:goon face blindness is my favorite thing I think I have an idea of what goon face blindness is but I'd absolutely love for someone to explain it real quick.
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May 24, 2017 17:25
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It's being bad at recognizing faces.
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May 24, 2017 17:41
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HanabaL03 posted:Why was Kevin Sr. carrying a bag of shoes when Laurie shows up in the VW Wagon? I must be dense, but I didn't really grasp what the point of that is. What is the significance that the kids didn't have shoes and that no one could find them. It does not make their suffering any worse, only adding another 'mystery' into the mix with what appears to be minimal intrigue.
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May 24, 2017 17:58
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RCarr posted:It's being bad at recognizing faces. Yeah, really. "Hey, is that guy the dude from episode ## from <other show>?" "No, not at all, wow, how did you even think that up?"
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May 24, 2017 17:59
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TraderStav posted:I must be dense, but I didn't really grasp what the point of that is. What is the significance that the kids didn't have shoes and that no one could find them. It does not make their suffering any worse, only adding another 'mystery' into the mix with what appears to be minimal intrigue. After finding out what actually happened to her kids, their lack of shoes has supplanted "they departed" as the mystery Grace can't have an answer to. Not a significant detail to anyone else, but a question that tortures her in her grief.
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May 24, 2017 18:20
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JethroMcB posted:After finding out what actually happened to her kids, their lack of shoes has supplanted "they departed" as the mystery Grace can't have an answer to. Not a significant detail to anyone else, but a question that tortures her in her grief. Ah, that makes sense. Everyone in this world has to be suffering.
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May 24, 2017 18:25
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Actually the shoes are significant because they are the only case of clothes departing without the wearer. I'll stop poo poo posting now. Internet sarcasm is hard.
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May 24, 2017 18:29
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JethroMcB posted:After finding out what actually happened to her kids, their lack of shoes has supplanted "they departed" as the mystery Grace can't have an answer to. Not a significant detail to anyone else, but a question that tortures her in her grief. I disagree. It's a litmus test for whether what Kevin does is real. He has to ask them where their shoes are, and only if they are there will Grace believe anything else he says about his contact with her kids in the other world.
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May 24, 2017 18:53
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Onomarchus posted:I disagree. It's a litmus test for whether what Kevin does is real. He has to ask them where their shoes are, and only if they are there will Grace believe anything else he says about his contact with her kids in the other world. I just found it random that the writers would have Sr. Say "shoes" as apposed to "nothing" when he's asked what's in the bag.
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May 24, 2017 21:15
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Onomarchus posted:I disagree. It's a litmus test for whether what Kevin does is real. He has to ask them where their shoes are, and only if they are there will Grace believe anything else he says about his contact with her kids in the other world. That's what I got out of it too.
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May 25, 2017 00:49
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TraderStav posted:Ah, that makes sense. Everyone in this world has to be suffering. More or less; without everybody suffering and dealing with the constant tumult of the soul in a world gone mad, there's not much of a show. Onomarchus posted:I disagree. It's a litmus test for whether what Kevin does is real. He has to ask them where their shoes are, and only if they are there will Grace believe anything else he says about his contact with her kids in the other world. I thought what Laurie told Nora about why she and John stopped cold-reading Departures applied to Grace: "Death is easy. People just want finality and an end to their grief. But with Departures, there is no end; and if we indicated otherwise, just by saying we could communicate to those individuals, it made their loved ones very, very angry. Because they didn’t want closure." Then I realized that, while that does apply to Grace's transference of obsession with "Where did my children go" to "where did my children's SHOES go," it doesn't jibe with the fact that she drowned the first Police Chief Kevin she could get her hands on after finding a strange man holding a piece of paper that said "Police Chief Kevin could die, speak to the dead, and live again." She JUMPED at the chance to get that confirmation, assured of its divinity in the moment, but then I thought - what would she do if he came back and said "I spoke to them, and it turns out they put them under some rocks," and then they found a pile of rubber and cloth right where Police Chief Kevin told them to look? If Laurie's read on Departure-adjacent mourners holds true, I suspect she may not be willing to accept the mundane resolution that the kids are dead and their shoes were just wearing to tatters in the outback where they left them. So at this point I think I've talked myself into "Grace really is just crazy." JethroMcB fucked around with this message at 01:08 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 03:09
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Potpourri: Laurie never relays Matt's apology to Kevin, Jr. for putting him/Him in the Book. Mr. Funny will be in the Hotel. For revenge. If Laurie did kill herself at the end, there's a plothole or at least a flaw in her plan to make it look like an accidental death. Matt and/or Nora, if they are alive on the planet anyway, can blow the accident story out of the water (pun intended) if they tell people about the scuba suicide conversation they all had in the van. Of course Laurie could be relying on their consideration to keep quiet, but Matt and Nora are the kind of people who like to tell the truth and drat the consequences, except when they are doing the opposite of that. Why did they steal that van anyway? Couldn't they just rent a car?
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May 25, 2017 03:19
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Onomarchus posted:If Laurie did kill herself at the end, there's a plothole or at least a flaw in her plan to make it look like an accidental death. Matt and/or Nora, if they are alive on the planet anyway, can blow the accident story out of the water (pun intended) if they tell people about the scuba suicide conversation they all had in the van. Of course Laurie could be relying on their consideration to keep quiet, but Matt and Nora are the kind of people who like to tell the truth and drat the consequences, except when they are doing the opposite of that. Laurie was assuming Nora was planning on going through the machine. But since she told her kids she was just hanging out, not scuba-diving in Australia, what she did was already off from the perfect suicide plan Nora gave her.
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May 25, 2017 03:50
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drunkill posted:The Microwave People set up shop here: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.9686367,145.0100498,415m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en Where are all the dessert scenes filmed? Film Victoria is always listed in the credits, but I can't imagine anything like that existing in Victoria. I guess it could be up somewhere near the SA boarder but I'm curious. What about the farmhouse/country scenes? I know there are dozens of Vic locations that that could be done, but it would be fun to know. Looten Plunder fucked around with this message at 04:09 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 04:04
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UmOk posted:Actually the shoes are significant because they are the only case of clothes departing without the wearer. Do you have an MA in Literature?
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May 25, 2017 05:24
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JethroMcB posted:More or less; without everybody suffering and dealing with the constant tumult of the soul in a world gone made, there's not much of a show. Doesn't she know they're dead? They found the bodies. So it's still as Laurie said: she knows her kids are dead and she can't have closure because of an unanswered question. She knows they didn't depart.
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May 25, 2017 05:59
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theBeaz posted:Doesn't she know they're dead? They found the bodies. So it's still as Laurie said: she knows her kids are dead and she can't have closure because of an unanswered question. She knows they didn't depart. Yeah but they only found the bodies years later, IIRC.
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May 25, 2017 06:07
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theBeaz posted:Doesn't she know they're dead? They found the bodies. So it's still as Laurie said: she knows her kids are dead and she can't have closure because of an unanswered question. She knows they didn't depart. Right, I'm saying that Grace became accustomed to having no closure. She had the glorious uncertainty of having her children Depart ripped away when their bodies were found, so she found a new question to fixate on. Even though she seems to want Kevin to get the answer for her I wonder if she'll be satisfied or willing to accept it if he can deliver it.
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May 25, 2017 12:10
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JethroMcB posted:Right, I'm saying that Grace became accustomed to having no closure. She had the glorious uncertainty of having her children Depart ripped away when their bodies were found, so she found a new question to fixate on. Even though she seems to want Kevin to get the answer for her I wonder if she'll be satisfied or willing to accept it if he can deliver it. Only if it leads to finding their shoes I'd say.
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May 25, 2017 12:57
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I originally interpreted the shoe question as a grieving mother who wants to try and piece together the last hours of her children's lives. Maybe it's a test to see if Kevin successfully passes over but I doubt that she would do that.
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May 25, 2017 13:08
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It reminds me of Kevin's struggles with the toaster and his shirts.
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May 25, 2017 13:10
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:It reminds me of Kevin's struggles with the toaster and his shirts. Truly the high points of season 1, maybe only topped by Baby Jesus in the gutter or the lighter that says "DON'T FORGET ME" in case you couldn't piece together the meaning behind the gift. Man, "B.J. and the A.C." was bad. The only out-and-out bad episode of this show (And even then it had one of my favorite moments, with the Guilty Remnant reps handing Tom the blank pamphlet.)
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May 25, 2017 13:41
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Yeah but it's the one that has "Can I get you something to drink? Coffee... tea... ... ... Draino?"
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May 25, 2017 20:38
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JethroMcB posted:Man, "B.J. and the A.C." was bad. The only out-and-out bad episode of this show (And even then it had one of my favorite moments, with the Guilty Remnant reps handing Tom the blank pamphlet.) That's my least favorite of the show but I think it was necessary to have a relatively mundane episode early on as a foundation for the rest to build on.
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May 26, 2017 02:07
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Carrie Coon is going to get nominated for best supporting actress for two different shoes this year. Also the actors and dialogue are so good. I just realized there hasn't been any action scenes in like 3 weeks. All dialogue. So so good.
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May 26, 2017 04:56
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One thing this episode proved is that television has perfected fake vomiting. Maybe now they can stop showing it.
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May 26, 2017 05:23
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clown shoes posted:One thing this episode proved is that television has perfected fake vomiting. Maybe now they can stop showing it.
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May 26, 2017 05:27
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We've come so far since "Rookie Cop." http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/rookie-cop/2868167?snl=1
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May 26, 2017 05:35
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Looten Plunder posted:Where are all the dessert scenes filmed? Film Victoria is always listed in the credits, but I can't imagine anything like that existing in Victoria. I guess it could be up somewhere near the SA boarder but I'm curious. The farm is up in the You Yangs, which is about 45 minutes out of Melbourne, where Mad Max (1) was filmed. According to Film Vic they used the Little River Biodiversity Interpretation Centre. Which is located right next to the Ford proving grounds, but having a quick look I can't see any farmhouse right next to a dam/pond that matches the show. Funnily enough one of the quarries right near there was used for filming the Iwo Jima episodes of The Pacific when they filled it with volcanic ash soil and the inland (airfield attack) scenes of Guadalcanal were also filmed up there. A press release also mentions a few scenes being filmed in Clunes, possibly where Kevin Sr. was walking in his episode. An old gold mining town which has a distinctive 'western' main street (again, a Mad Max 1 location) I have no clue where the desert-y scenes were filmed, someone online said Silverton (Broken Hill, where Mad Max 2 was filmed) but I dunno about that. Could be somewhere in the North West of Victoria. Film Vic does have a location scouting gallery though: https://www.film.vic.gov.au/choose-victoria/locations/
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Josh Lyman posted:Nah, when Laurie throws up her puke, you can clearly tell its coming from a pouch hidden behind her head. The relative camera depth of the puke and her mouth are noticeably different. Why didn't she puke into the toilet
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