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Outrail posted:Why would you take any pride in having more people? That's insane. Preparing for your theoretical land war in asia?
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Hm, I'd guess the editor wasn't interested in the subject and/or doing his job properly, and had to meet a deadline. Any further arguments that complicate the article by honest research and interviewing people who could have a clue are annoying and would make him leave the office late, so none of that.
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Blistex posted:Where the gently caress did he get his journalism degree? He didn't. He's a political scientist, which means he wrote that piece so that people will keep hiring him as an advisor/consultant or to get people to buy more of his books. This dude coined the term "Thucydides Trap," which is suppose to describe the situation where fear of a emerging new power will cause current dominant powers to go to war with said new emerging power. It's all the rage with foreign policy types with regards to China, so you can see why he will keep trying to shill his insight into this supposedly emerging geopolitical problem. CIGNX fucked around with this message at 21:47 on May 24, 2017 |
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May 24, 2017 21:43
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Yeah I'm getting real tired of hearing the phrase "Thucydides Trap" from foreign policy wonks. The existence of that kind of "trap" nowadays requires China to be way more powerful than it actually is so it makes sense that he'd be trying to portray it as such, what with the sunk intellectual capital. It's one of the reasons Martin Jaques and Jim O'Neill keep loving the "China Rising" chicken in tyool 2017 even though it should be obvious to anyone with a clue that it isn't happening In fact when I see that phrase in a foreign policy articles nowadays my eyes glaze over because it seems to almost universally be mentioned by people with a painfully superficial understanding of what's going on who have no ideas of their own. Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 22:14 on May 24, 2017 |
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May 24, 2017 22:12
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Fojar38 posted:That article doesn't even anger me; it genuinely baffles me. Most articles have a point but this is just a massive blowjob to China without any policy recommendations or point beyond talking about how great China is. Is this guy trying to up his guanxi? Global Times editorials are more sanguine than this. communism bitch fucked around with this message at 22:21 on May 24, 2017 |
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May 24, 2017 22:19
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the torygraph respectable when
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American news media is actually experiencing something of a renaissance because of Trump. It's pretty funny that the Telegraph apparently blows China that hard though considering it's blocked in China.
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SaltyJesus posted:the torygraph respectable when I didn't say good. I said respectable, in the sense of being a very "establishment" paper. Also i may be thinking of the Times or something. It's one of the big broadsheets anyway. Private Eye regularly rips them a new one on it.
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So last night Hong Kong had really bad weather with big thunderstorms and rain. MU765 from Nanjing managed to land but missed a specific turn out of the runway and the pilot claim he "slipped". The pilot was a bit shook up and just stalled on the runway instead of getting the gently caress out. Air Traffic Control was not impressed at all. There was going to be another flight from the KLM landing 500 feet but ATC managed to have them pull up. The whole fiasco caused 2 hours of clogged delays but luckily no one was hurt. Here's the news story and recording, it's in Cantonese :dwi: http://hk.dv.nextmedia.com/actionnews/local/20170525/20032888/20152179
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Oberleutnant posted:I didn't say good. I said respectable, in the sense of being a very "establishment" paper. Well frankly even BBC gets in on fellating China, though that might have more to do with government policy I guess
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caberham posted:So last night Hong Kong had really bad weather with big thunderstorms and rain. how long were the delays from those facebook videos showing manhole geysers and water getting ankle-deep in public buses my favorite part was that it was just like thailand, where people just casually wade through knee/waist-high sewage water Outrail posted:Why would you take any pride in having more people? That's insane. its an asia thing - there was a story here a couple of times about a guy's korean coworker trying to brag about how korea had more lakes its always about trying to win tiny footholds in your attempt to validate superiority
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There is that dumb number dickwaving but every Chinese person I've ever had a population conversation with thinks it's lovely that China has so many people and wishes it had half as many, I don't think they'd actually care about this one.
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May 25, 2017 03:11
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My teacher is currently telling a room full mainly of Africans that dark skin is very ugly.
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Private Speech posted:Well frankly even BBC gets in on fellating China, though that might have more to do with government policy I guess British foreign office is full of dumb englishers that have internalized their own stereotypes of orientals so far that they are consciously kow-towing to the PRC and thinking they've figured out how to work the Chinese angle Grand Fromage posted:There is that dumb number dickwaving but every Chinese person I've ever had a population conversation with thinks it's lovely that China has so many people and wishes it had half as many, I don't think they'd actually care about this one. I do not understand how Chinese people stand going to any tourist stop or large event or neighbourhood pool when you literally cannot see a single thing past the crowd of people surrounding you.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:I do not understand how Chinese people stand going to any tourist stop or large event or neighbourhood pool when you literally cannot see a single thing past the crowd of people surrounding you. Me either. I just don't bother. There's a whole bunch of stuff in this country I'd like to see but never will because it's ruined by the endless crowd of spitting rednecks. What gets me is sometimes it's easily avoided, but nobody seems to care. There are so many situations where like literally everyone goes to the grocery store at 6 PM but if you go at 4 or 8, it's empty. Not that I'm complaining.
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I tend to like big cities though, you get better public transportation, better infrastructure, better flight connections, different kinds of restaurants, more cultural stuff (don't know much about Chinese cities), and you don't need a freaking car. Then again there's higher cost of living, noise pollution, violence, and all the bad city stuff. Hello I'm from Hong Kong and Hong Kong is a great place to be (if you dont have to worry about a house)
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May 25, 2017 04:34
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This goes without saying. gently caress OSAKA
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LentThem posted:how long were the delays from those facebook videos showing manhole geysers and water getting ankle-deep in public buses 2 hour flight delays but luckily our city managed to drain everything pretty fast unlike mainland cities where the drainage systems get blocked by garbage and is quite inadequate
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Grand Fromage posted:Me either. I just don't bother. There's a whole bunch of stuff in this country I'd like to see but never will because it's ruined by the endless crowd of spitting rednecks. Some guy in China is the publicity photographer of those four mountains and the sichuan hot spring etc., and I bet they are the happiest guy in China because the government just closes those parks for the hour while he works.
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So, is China's government actually doing the best it can to achieve long-term goals, or is it falling to the broad appeal of immediate returns, especially to shore up government credibility?
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If you can call juvenile posturing short term gains and constantly moving back the goalposts long term planning. Then yes, China is doing great
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Pick posted:So, is China's government actually doing the best it can to achieve long-term goals, or is it falling to the broad appeal of immediate returns, especially to shore up government credibility? We don't know. There might be some arm of the government that believes in long term development but no one has heard of it. It's actually quite opaque and every 5 years there's a giant plan or some initiative and which everyone is supposed to follow. Ages ago, it used to be CARS FOR ALL, now it's GREEN ENERGY! There are all these different government departments and largess going so no one really has a clue what the gently caress is going on. The current leadership consolidating power and removing and creating new posts is muddying the picture as well. I guess for actual long term goals it's ONE BELT ONE ROAD? XIJINPING THOUGHT? 
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One belt one road sounds like one of those disturbing videos from the internet.
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Pick posted:So, is China's government actually doing the best it can to achieve long-term goals, or is it falling to the broad appeal of immediate returns, especially to shore up government credibility? Reforms involve gradually giving up power. So no.
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caberham posted:This goes without saying. gently caress OSAKA Pffft please Osaka is a beautiful industrial hellhole and dining destination.
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Grand Fromage posted:What gets me is sometimes it's easily avoided, but nobody seems to care. There are so many situations where like literally everyone goes to the grocery store at 6 PM but if you go at 4 or 8, it's empty. Not that I'm complaining. dinner must begin at 7pm, therefore all restaurants will have huge lines for the next hour while all supermarkets will be completely empty. The exception to this is Sunday evening, when Dinner at Home is mandatory. On this day all restaurants will be mostly empty at 7pm. but again much like my urinal stories where people piss all over themselves: People WILL NOT change their behavior to reduce hassle or inconvenience for themselves. Edit: I would blow Dane Cook posted:One belt one road sounds like one of those disturbing videos from the internet. Related to the above, every slogan or soundbite in China must be exactly 4 words One belt, one road One world, one dream Better city, better life Very yellow, very violent LentThem fucked around with this message at 05:47 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 05:33
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Wait people at at 7? I thought they eat earlier than that, some restaurants in Shanghai have last order at 830pm. My girlfriend's family eats at 6. Most Chinese cities don't really stay up late like South East Asian ones. Even Shanghai and Beijing are pretty tame during the weeknights
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May 25, 2017 06:05
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2 belts one road.
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Blistex posted:What? I really can't get my head around the vibe of that place. Are you... are you asking for a logical explanation for the opinions of a D&D Mod? For godsake man, at least an honest snipe hunt would get us out-of-doors!
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May 25, 2017 06:25
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Haier you should call your place the plungin' dungeon
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caberham posted:Wait people at at 7? I thought they eat earlier than that, some restaurants in Shanghai have last order at 830pm. 6 PM is also my experience. Things start shutting down at 8.
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Then again, the sun sets pretty early in northern China and the mid day doesn't get stupidly hot. No one in Bangkok wants to be out at noon. So everything just gets pushed back a little
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May 25, 2017 06:54
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In Korea 7 is about when you'd think about leaving the apartment for the evening.
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Fojar38 posted:Reforms involve gradually giving up power. So no. I mean, don't they worry about the strength of the system, considering they seem to intend their children--specifically their children--to inherit it?
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May 25, 2017 07:07
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But they don't. Everyone who can is stealing everything that isn't nailed down and sending the kids and money abroad to get dat sweet foreign passport and GTFO.
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Grand Fromage posted:6 PM is also my experience. Things start shutting down at 8. Interesting, I wonder if it's related to closure times. A lot of restaurants in shanghai are built against/inside shopping malls and will close at 9:30 or 10:00 (last orders an hour before). I lost track of time the other day and suddenly it was 9:15, so my only nearby dinner options were like convenience stores and mcdonalds/kfc A really good dumpling place a couple of blocks from my home would just close for the night if at any point after 7 there were no customers, as opposed to just having standard hours.
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Pick posted:I mean, don't they... 
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Christmas comes early for Fojar https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/23/business/moodys-downgrades-china-economy-debt.html quote:SHANGHAI — China has gone on a spending spree, borrowing money to build cities, create manufacturing giants and nurture financial markets — money that has helped drive the economic powerhouse in recent years. But the debt-fueled binge now threatens to sap the energy of the world’s second-largest economy.
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Stringent posted:Christmas comes early for Fojar Unnamed country strikes again.
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