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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
https://twitter.com/adventuresofrob/status/867352833535946752

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
no, we don't

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Some real fellow travellers in this thread, hmmm

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

hakimashou posted:

Picking a Labour leader who, along with his closest allies, are compromised by a history of supporting or sympathizing with terrorists and their causes is an awfully foolish risk in today's world.

but enough about the Blairites

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Baloogan posted:

USSR was one of the most if not the most horrible country in history on the face of the planet, if they are the bar we're comparing ourselves to then lol we're hosed

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

hakimashou posted:

Communism is the worst idea people have ever had.

no that's all of your posts boom

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

hakimashou posted:

Picking a Labour leader who, along with his closest allies, are compromised by a history of supporting or sympathizing with terrorists and their causes is an awfully foolish risk in today's world. Terrorist attacks may not be preventable but they are foreseeable, most people would agree that it's more likely than not that terrorist attacks will be perpetrated in the future.

Wow, I can't believe Corbyn supports terrorism. Probably a difficult sell.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

Four eyes?

https://twitter.com/GroomB/status/867495075563143170

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Maybe if liberal capitalism didn't lead to such lovely conditions people wouldn't consider communism tempting

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 232 days!

MikeCrotch posted:

Maybe if liberal capitalism didn't lead to such lovely conditions people wouldn't consider communism tempting

It's certainly why people turned to fascism last time

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

u know who else bombed manchester

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

hakimashou posted:

Do these socialists plan to clamp down on freedom of the press?

there is no such thing

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment
When UKMT sends its posters, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Top City Homo posted:

there is no such thing

No such thing as what?

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Digiwizzard posted:

Everyone's conception of ai is limited to an incredibly strong and super smart man who lives forever lmao.

its actually a really perceptive idiot savant who can collate and recall images from a very sophisticated excel spreadsheet

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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MikeCrotch posted:

Labour up 8 points according to a phone poll lol

Lib dems on 7% :negative:

UKIP on 2% :supaburn:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...r-a3542256.html

libe dems can go gently caress right off into the Channel

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Lastgirl posted:

cant orb the corb

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

hakimashou posted:

Picking a Labour leader who, along with his closest allies, are compromised by a history of supporting or sympathizing with terrorists and their causes is an awfully foolish risk in today's world. Terrorist attacks may not be preventable but they are foreseeable, most people would agree that it's more likely than not that terrorist attacks will be perpetrated in the future.

i wet my pants as i cast my last vote for mummy, nay mistress may

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

hakimashou posted:

No such thing as what?

a free press

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
how dare women step into the ancient role of parent-controller, that is for men alone!

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Top City Homo posted:

a free press

What makes you say that?

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
hot take: if corbyn supporters stopped worshipping the ussr and communism normal people would be more likely to vote for him

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

hot take: if corbyn supporters stopped worshipping the ussr and communism normal people would be more likely to vote for him
how would you know what normal people would do

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

hakimashou posted:

What makes you say that?

under capitalism money determines what the press reports and how, influencing discourse in the favor of a small specific class of people

this, coincidentally, is why so few people trust the press these days in america even if people don't know it

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

hakimashou posted:

What makes you say that?

it represents the views of press barons who normalize barbarism and spread paranoia and hysteria


collusion between plutocrats, government and the military industrial/intelligence community manufactures consent while all other media is disciplined by ad sponsors (another form of propaganda).

a free press is just another way of saying: unrestricted propaganda by the press barons.

Top City Homo has issued a correction as of 15:22 on May 25, 2017

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

actually, a press rigidly controlled by a massive state censorship apparatus is the most free kind, liberals

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

hot take: if corbyn supporters stopped worshipping the ussr and communism normal people would be more likely to vote for him

definitely a thing that is happening

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

Fallen Hamprince posted:

actually, a press rigidly controlled by a massive state censorship apparatus is the most free kind, liberals

You joke but this is correct.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Fallen Hamprince posted:

actually, a press rigidly controlled by a massive state censorship apparatus is the most free kind, liberals

Is the condition that the press is not controlled by a for profit corporation beholden to a single owner really "massive state censorship"?

a free press would be something akin to the Guardian: a board of trustees runs a fund and the whole thing is owned and operated by its journalists.

The current meaning of free press is an Australian vampire and his collective of barbie dolls and fat ghoul like puppets masquerading as reporters whipping up xenophobia and focusing on who has the biggest tits

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Top City Homo posted:

Is the condition that the press is not controlled by a for profit corporation beholden to a single owner really "massive state censorship"?

a free press would be something akin to the Guardian: a board of trustees runs a fund and the whole thing is owned and operated by its journalists.

The current meaning of free press is an Australian vampire and his collective of barbie dolls and fat ghoul like puppets masquerading as reporters whipping up xenophobia and focusing on who has the biggest tits

roflmao

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

every fringe left party has its own lovely newspaper but the press isn't truly free until everyone is forced to read them

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Karl Barks posted:

definitely a thing that is happening

literally as i posted it we have people springing in from the bushes saying how good it would be if the government controlled all media outlets directly

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

literally as i posted it we have people springing in from the bushes saying how good it would be if the government controlled all media outlets directly

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
The contemporary press actually is garbage though so despite all those sick burns on the tankies you still sound like a retard for defending the status quo

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

True freedom includes the freedom to be abused and exploited. Heh. Guess you lefties just aren't ready to accept the real price of liberty. *works a backbreaking 60 hours a week, dies in poverty*

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Lt. Danger posted:

True freedom includes the freedom to be abused and exploited. Heh. Guess you lefties just aren't ready to accept the real price of liberty. *works a backbreaking 60 hours a week, dies in poverty*

USpol thread is that way

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
neoliberalism: "at least you're not living in a literal Stalinist dictatorship!"

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Helsing posted:

The contemporary press actually is garbage though so despite all those sick burns on the tankies you still sound like a retard for defending the status quo
this is true. the fact of the matter is that the newspaper industry is inherently broken to the point where it doesn't even work in theory. if you accept the premise that a healthy democracy needs a free, varied and versatile press, leaving it in the hand of the free market seems like A Bad Idea.

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Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

R. Mute posted:

this is true. the fact of the matter is that the newspaper industry is inherently broken to the point where it doesn't even work in theory. if you accept the premise that a healthy democracy needs a free, varied and versatile press, leaving it in the hand of the free market seems like A Bad Idea.

But a tankie said a thing and now I have to vomit all over myself in defense of liberalism

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