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 POOR IMPULSE CONTROL  Jack Abramof, one F, not two, is returning as our permanent lobbyist. He has assured me that whatever he picked up in Cabinda isn't contagious and that she seemed like a nice girl. Supposedly he has a cream for it. Don't shake his hand. So now we will get the high level intel, the procurement ins, and of course the adventures of a filthy drunk Don Draper in 2023. What we won't get is the 10% bonus to each mission.  Look who got out of prison early! More details to come on this once we're in theater but oh boy, does he have some deals! And by deals I mean hot, terribly, flying garbage! No longer is he a one stop shop, but instead offers a buffet of beauty straight out of the past. A literal flying circus of airborne dumpsters falling from the skies. It'll be beautiful. He's going to bring deals. They'll be sweet deals. They might even make it off the runway. Whether they return though... what is guaranteed is they won't get into the air twice.  The Angolan Government put in an offer of $46 million for the AMX's and the Mirage's. Seems they kind of ran out of airplanes and are worried that someone like the Congo might invade. The SK60B's though... The Sons of Morocco are one of oldest circus groups on the east coast. They've got eyes on an aerial trapeze, acrobatics, and stunt show. The interesting part is it'll be all woman pilots with the men performing outside of the planes. They'll use the Hayard Gunnes livery, hand out our promotional materials, and hopefully be a good face for the organization. Jack is all for it. He thinks we should give the kids coloring books detailed by Tom of Finland. I'm not sure what a Finn knows about coloring books but I signed off on it. Keep voting for either the Bering Sea (POOR IMPULSE CONTROL) or for the Shadowrun in the Balkans, Easternish Europe.
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Yooper, you never disappoint. 
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May 25, 2017 13:08
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Note to self: We need to get some new Mirages and Frogfoots.
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May 25, 2017 13:13
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voting for voting to sell the amx's and mirages
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May 25, 2017 13:13
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Tom of Finland coloring books. Edit: (not for looking up at work) xthetenth fucked around with this message at 13:25 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 13:17
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Is that a good price? It seems like we could afford to buy some Voting Bering Strait, time to see if the Deadliest Catch crew carry MANPADS.
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May 25, 2017 13:22
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xthetenth posted:Tom of Finland coloring books. I looked him up, expecting some sort of especially flamboyant new designer with expensive taste. I was, uh, ...sort of right? Sell the Mirages too. I want to help Angola get back on its feet.
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May 25, 2017 13:23
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I am so excited for this new Willie you have no idea. That also seems like a pretty good deal for the A-11s and Mirages. What happens to the pilots assigned to them though? Do they reenter the queue at the front?JcDent posted:MEAT is a wordsmith hermit crab that lives in his metal shell that smells of ozone and stale farts. I will have you know that the trailer has only the freshest artisanal, bespoke farts.
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May 25, 2017 13:26
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power crystals posted:I am so excited for this new Willie you have no idea. That also seems like a pretty good deal for the A-11s and Mirages. What happens to the pilots assigned to them though? Do they reenter the queue at the front? Yes. Recycled pilots go to the front of the line.
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May 25, 2017 13:27
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Voting for Balkans, of course. Tracksuits, alcoholism and depression for everyone! Also, sell Mirages and AMXes to Angola, they need them. Gervasius fucked around with this message at 13:39 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 13:37
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Sell planes to Angola
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May 25, 2017 13:37
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balkans and sell planes to our Angolan friends
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May 25, 2017 13:47
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Sell those planes!
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May 25, 2017 13:49
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Bering Strait and sell the planes
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May 25, 2017 13:50
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Coffeehitler posted:Been thinking about it, and I've gotta vote Balkans for where to go next. Probably working with the Bulgarians since they did us a solid, but that's for another vote. The Bulgarians we worked with=/=the Bulgarians we'd be working for there.
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May 25, 2017 13:53
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Anta posted:Is that a good price? It seems like we could afford to buy some Not really. The AMXes alone retail new for around $16.5 million a piece. And that's not counting the Mirages, which are around $11 mil a piece. Even accounting for them all being used aircraft, we'd be giving the Angolans a very forgiving nice friends-and-family price. If we could haggle them up (or trade them in for two Kfirs, or something), then it might be worth considering. If we sold them and got the $46 mil, we'd have enough money to buy a Tornado and a half. Not really worth it. Given that we still have like $65 million in the bank, we already have a pretty healthy rusty bucket budget. So, no on the sales. Yes on the circus. Bacarruda fucked around with this message at 20:54 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 14:00
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Do the mirages have some sort of ordinance capability that our other planes don't? If we are giving up something spicy, like cruise missiles, that might not be awesome.
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May 25, 2017 14:17
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SK60Bs go to the Top Gun Circus, keep the rest
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May 25, 2017 14:17
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Bacarruda posted:Not really. I'm going to have to disagree with you here, Bacarruda. Given that the AMXs are at least 25 years old and the Mirages are over 30 years old, we are getting a fantastic deal here. New the Amx and F1s cost 55m. Now we're being offered 46m for them at a point where they're coming to the end of their operations life. That is an outrageously good deal for us. Sell the Mirages, AMXs and SK 60s
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May 25, 2017 14:38
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Sell the Mirages/AMX Let's give Angola a hand shall we?
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May 25, 2017 14:42
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Yooper posted:
Shackletons! Let's get the AN/APS-20 all the way from WWII to the 21st century! P-2 Neptunes Hybrid propulsion is all the rage with the kids. I don't know if it's effective, but it seems cool to me!
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May 25, 2017 14:43
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Where is the $11M price for the Mirages coming from? I agree that selling them is a good idea. Can we use the money immediately, or are we saving it up for use in-theater? It seems like getting some more cargo planes wouldn't be a bad idea.
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May 25, 2017 14:45
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Yeah, ask them is there any Free State crap they left abandoned. If it flies, we might want to take them. Also any top tier soviet systems.
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May 25, 2017 14:50
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David Corbett posted:Voting Eastern Europe, sell the SK 60s, sell the AMXes (and hopefully find replacements with anti-runway capabilities). Well said indeed. sell em
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May 25, 2017 14:50
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Where is the $11M price for the Mirages coming from? Sounds like we can rent some planes from Willie's. I think having a good nest egg for mid-campaign procurement is always a good idea.
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May 25, 2017 14:51
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Yvonmukluk posted:Sounds like we can rent some planes from Willie's. I think having a good nest egg for mid-campaign procurement is always a good idea. That's called our earnings, no?
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May 25, 2017 14:54
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I say we keep them. Waste not want not.
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May 25, 2017 15:02
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Does this mean that the people who fly Willie's planes are okay with suicide runs?
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May 25, 2017 15:15
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Bacarruda posted:Not really. The real question is, will they contribute that much value (subtracting opex)? The A-11s almost certainly won't. The Mirages are arguable, but I'm not convinced they're worth it. If nothing else, it'd get us some more goodwill we can leverage for future employment. Also Mirages are ugly as hell so gently caress 'em. Sell all of it
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May 25, 2017 15:18
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With Jack as our permanent lobbyist, does that mean we won't get a choice of advisor for the theater we choose? Or will that be on top of having Jack?
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May 25, 2017 15:24
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Where is the $11M price for the Mirages coming from? It's the price that comes up when you Google them.
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May 25, 2017 15:24
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Dance Officer posted:Does this mean that the people who fly Willie's planes are okay with suicide runs? No, only people who voted for K&P will fly suicide trash, that's the policy that Yooper outlined in the first post. It was a bit weird, starting an LP on something that specific, buy whatever.
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May 25, 2017 16:06
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Where is the $11M price for the Mirages coming from? The internet told me $18m and it can't be wrong. We paid $18.5 each for a pair of them in an earlier procurement round. Yes, this will be saved for other in theater stuff. Dance Officer posted:Does this mean that the people who fly Willie's planes are okay with suicide runs? You can be reckless, you can be dumb, but intentionally suiciding planes to give an opening for a gripen or some such ain't gonna happen. If it's tactically sound it's OK. CirclMastr posted:With Jack as our permanent lobbyist, does that mean we won't get a choice of advisor for the theater we choose? Or will that be on top of having Jack? We absolutely can hire folks for our advisor. Zach is back on the hiring block as is our friend Cobbie, fresh from his job with the Free State. I'll leave the third one as a surprise.
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May 25, 2017 16:16
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God both proposals sound great, so I know it sounds insane both why not split the company and run both? Given the number of assets and the fact that certain planes are only useful in one scenario like the MPA it would make sense, and by restricting both theaters to 4 Gripens it would mean the Gripens would have to stay in the A2A role. I know thats impossible but you are allowed to dream right?
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May 25, 2017 16:47
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Hessi posted:God both proposals sound great, so I know it sounds insane both why not split the company and run both? Given the number of assets and the fact that certain planes are only useful in one scenario like the MPA it would make sense, and by restricting both theaters to 4 Gripens it would mean the Gripens would have to stay in the A2A role. I know thats impossible but you are allowed to dream right?  Though we can always run the other theater next time.
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May 25, 2017 16:56
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If we need to pare down to make mission design more streamlined for Yooper in the face of whatever wacky poo poo we're going to one-time, we should do it. If it's just for the money, I don't think the Mirages and AMXs have done all they can for us and that we should keep them.
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May 25, 2017 16:56
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Eastern Europe! It'll be more fun doing Shadowrun stuff and WE NEED ARMS DEALERS IN OUR POCKET!!!!
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May 25, 2017 17:05
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power crystals posted:Also Mirages are ugly as hell so gently caress 'em. Look at the wrongest opinion on this forum ever.
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May 25, 2017 17:14
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Hmm, I'd prefer Tadashi Hiramatsu to Tom of Finland, but, hey, to each their own. I think the former would play better with kids, though. Anyway, while part of me will miss the Mirages and AMXs, I guess you can go ahead and sell them to make your life easier.
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Davin Valkri posted:Hmm, I'd prefer Tadashi Hiramatsu to Tom of Finland, but, hey, to each their own. I think the former would play better with kids, though. FYI : I'm not commissioning a ToF coloring book for kids, it's more to show how absurd Jack is. edit : I have no issues with handling the Mirages and AMX's. If you guys want to keep them that's OK. Making missions for our planes in the easy part.
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