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spacetoaster posted:It's just a belief though, they can change their minds. We need to find out why some of these guys integrate like they've been waiting to do it all their lives, and others absolutely refuse to. We're paying for all this electronic surveillance, what the gently caress are we using it for??
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Islamic extremism won't end until they're dominating the cultures they are attacking Why would it? Why would they ever stop?
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Nerses IV posted:We need to find out why some of these guys integrate like they've been waiting to do it all their lives, and others absolutely refuse to. We're paying for all this electronic surveillance, what the gently caress are we using it for?? I guess some people have pride, loyalty, and honor whereas others are craven greedy self-haters who will betray their people at the drop of a hat
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So we're looking at perma-terrorism forever? That's the solution?
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you are reminded to integrate and be part of america at every turn in america, in france and germany they don't really have that anymore for...Reasons, last time it didn't turn out so well.
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Smythe posted:let me get this straight... you're pro-genocide? His point is that if your argument is that ethnic cleansing, genocide and all the like are bad because Nazis and "it doesnt work" and that's all you got then you're some kind of intellectual and moral cripple and how are you so bad at debating to the point where people who agree with the moral statement "genocide is bad" want to tell you that your wrong because your arguments are so superficial and incorrect
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It's because no one said "white genocide" that it's all bad. FYI. You know how this works guys. Only the light skinned devil must be purged.
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Piss de Bundy posted:you are reminded to integrate and be part of america at every turn in america, in france and germany they don't really have that anymore for...Reasons, last time it didn't turn out so well. 
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I guess some people have pride, loyalty, and honor whereas others are craven greedy self-haters who will betray their people at the drop of a hat See, I don't know if you're talking about the right-wing guys or the muslims, here edit: That's probably the point but you know whatever
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May 25, 2017 17:59
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Nerses IV posted:We need to find out why some of these guys integrate like they've been waiting to do it all their lives, and others absolutely refuse to. We're paying for all this electronic surveillance, what the gently caress are we using it for?? Some of the people who left loved their society and it was only a question of survival. Why would that person ever embrace the host culture, especially if they are the conservative sort?
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except those mormons you know, they carved out their own version of shariah law in utah. what is to be done about the mormon menace
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the trump tutelage posted:Some of the people who left loved their society and it was only a question of survival. Why would that person ever embrace the host culture, especially if they are the conservative sort? Because the society they left must have been super hosed if they had to flee it or die
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May 25, 2017 18:02
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:An Islamic extremist detonated a nail bomb at a concert full of little girls Man, these concert tour names get weirder and weirder.
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Nerses IV posted:Because the society they left must have been super hosed if they had to flee it or die That works for a persecuted minority, not so much for Aziz the greengrocer who woke up one morning to find a crater where his shop used to be.
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SickZip posted:His point is that if your argument is that ethnic cleansing, genocide and all the like are bad because Nazis and "it doesnt work" and that's all you got then you're some kind of intellectual and moral cripple and how are you so bad at debating to the point where people who agree with the moral statement "genocide is bad" want to tell you that your wrong because your arguments are so superficial and incorrect Help I am crippled.
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the trump tutelage posted:That works for a persecuted minority, not so much for Aziz the greengrocer who woke up one morning to find a crater where his shop used to be. Maybe Aziz should try doing things our way now that he's here, our shops only turn in to craters if they're next to a poorly regulated fertilizer production facility
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i cant wait for the mullahs to nuke us while we are sitting here arguing who is the most pro-genocide it will be so poetic
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Nerses IV posted:We need to find out why some of these guys integrate like they've been waiting to do it all their lives, and others absolutely refuse to. We're paying for all this electronic surveillance, what the gently caress are we using it for?? I hang out with the guy. He was never very religious anyway. Probably was already and atheist before he ever got here, just didn't want to admit it.
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spacetoaster posted:I hang out with the guy. He was never very religious anyway. Probably was already and atheist before he ever got here, just didn't want to admit it. Oh, look, you've found a better case against genocide than every fuckup "leftist" in this thread. Weird
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May 25, 2017 18:09
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Nerses IV posted:Oh, look, you've found a better case against genocide than every fuckup "leftist" in this thread. Weird What? Just massively overhaul the immigration policy so that there is greater chance for integration?
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spacetoaster posted:What? Just massively overhaul the immigration policy so that there is greater chance for integration? Hell, I'd settle for just knowing why some people integrate and some don't. If you want to use that information to build a profile so you can selectively target agreeable candidates for immigration, fine, but I'd rather use it to try and nudge the conservative holdouts in the correct direction. Figuring that poo poo out would save a lot more people in the long run.
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ask every potential islamic immigrant if they think anime is forbidden
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Nerses IV posted:Hell, I'd settle for just knowing why some people integrate and some don't. because some people don't want to integrate and some people do?
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There's only 2 solutions 1) Give them what they want and institute Sharia law 2) Accept that children will be blown up with bombs
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Fushigi Yuugi fansub posted:because some people don't want to integrate and some people do? Okay, why? What are the differences between these people? What makes a person change their attitude from one to the other? We've seen that these motherfuckers have a playbook to radicalize people, and it seems pretty effective. What do we have to know to build a playbook in the other direction?
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:There's only 2 solutions Anything less is racist. You're not a... a racist, are you?
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If your reasoning for not committing genocide merely hinges on "well, it would look bad and other countries would frown upon it" then lol holy gently caress, could you be any more morally bankruptNerses IV posted:Hell, I'd settle for just knowing why some people integrate and some don't. If you want to use that information to build a profile so you can selectively target agreeable candidates for immigration, fine, but I'd rather use it to try and nudge the conservative holdouts in the correct direction. Figuring that poo poo out would save a lot more people in the long run. At least in the US, after a generation of two, foreigners from pretty much anywhere in the world integrate. I think a huge part of why the USA is mostly shielded from this stuff is because of geography. We have Canada to the north, Mexico to the south and oceans on the sides. Huge swathes of people from the middle east can cross into Europe, but an illiterate sheep herder can't afford to buy a plane ticket to North America. So those who do come here know that we aren't too fond of people who molest little kids or spontaneously explode in crowded areas.
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Nerses IV posted:Hell, I'd settle for just knowing why some people integrate and some don't. If you want to use that information to build a profile so you can selectively target agreeable candidates for immigration, fine, but I'd rather use it to try and nudge the conservative holdouts in the correct direction. Figuring that poo poo out would save a lot more people in the long run. People from wealthier, higher-class families tend to have more western social views. People who grew up with unskilled laborer fathers and illiterate housewife mothers in a foreign country where education is free tend to become educated, but seeing as they grow up talking only to people of similar backgrounds, fat cocksuckers who think the pakis stole their alcoholic dad's job, or white people with dreadlocks who call them fascinating, they may become angry and alienated. KomodoWagon fucked around with this message at 18:29 on May 25, 2017 |
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Nerses IV posted:Okay, why? What are the differences between these people? What makes a person change their attitude from one to the other? We've seen that these motherfuckers have a playbook to radicalize people, and it seems pretty effective. What do we have to know to build a playbook in the other direction? Totally ancedotal, but the dude I know thought islam was stupid.
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spacetoaster posted:Totally ancedotal, but the dude I know thought islam was stupid. Race traitor...is what some people might call him. He's a true hero though.
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 edit: these people weren't involved in the bombing or anything, just thought you might be interested? schmuckfeatures fucked around with this message at 18:36 on May 25, 2017 |
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See, guys, I'm not a Nazi, I'm more like a Selous Scout
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lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLEAGuVPr_s
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Nerses IV posted:Okay, why? What are the differences between these people? What makes a person change their attitude from one to the other? We've seen that these motherfuckers have a playbook to radicalize people, and it seems pretty effective. What do we have to know to build a playbook in the other direction? personal motivations and the factors KomodoWagon mentioned, i guess. some people simply don't have any, or at most very little, motivation to integrate and i believe this is true for any immigrant in any country and not just muslims. why they might not have any motivation to integrate might be because integration takes effort and they're lazy, or because it's easier and more familiar to stay within your ethnic group, or because they're there only to work, or they don't agree with the values of the indigenous people, or they're just passing through the country but for some reason or another got stuck there, etc., or a combination of these factors
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Piss de Bundy posted:who is this loving idiot squawking about israel You either die when they're kneepads, or you live long enough for them to become shinpads 
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Fushigi Yuugi fansub posted:personal motivations and the factors KomodoWagon mentioned, i guess. some people simply don't have any, or at most very little, motivation to integrate and i believe this is true for any immigrant in any country and not just muslims. why they might not have any motivation to integrate might be because integration takes effort and they're lazy, or because it's easier and more familiar to stay within your ethnic group, or because they're there only to work, or they don't agree with the values of the indigenous people, or they're just passing through the country but for some reason or another got stuck there, etc., or a combination of these factors All the immigrants I know (including my wife) are pretty hardcore USA patriots. I guess it's the whole nobody is more devout than a convert?
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spacetoaster posted:I guess it's the whole nobody is more devout than a convert? yeh p much
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Agag posted:Really? drat. I was %100 serious about that part. We did a lot of terrible sit to the native americans but complete genocidal extermination of every man woman and child wasn't really ever the goal so yea its not really surprising at all that there are millions of them. After Smallpox mostly we just moved em' around (forcibly or not) and eventually started intermarrying (something I know you look down on).
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