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cheetah7071 posted:After playing through twice now I don't think it's actually true that the whitewings are, mechanically, that much better than anyone else in Celica's route. They probably have comparable or worse stat spreads to Celica, Saber, and Mae off the top of my head yeah they're def helped by being the only usable units on a bunch of maps, but I think they're still good even without that. i mean flying units have a low threshold for goodness all together, it doesn't take much. Does FE Gaiden have a sequel? Is there any follow-up to stuff like Saber's Merchant kingdom or Sonya becoming a witch? has anyone actually not finished this game yet, do I even need to spoiler it
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Gaiden has a sequel, and it's Awakening. Valentia is eventually renamed Valm.
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May 25, 2017 19:43
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direct sequel, i don't care about 1000 years later
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May 25, 2017 19:44
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mandatory lesbian posted:direct sequel, i don't care about 1000 years later No, though I guess technically 3/12 are a sequel since they take place after and feature characters that were in Gaiden. No one ever mentions anything about them though.
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May 25, 2017 19:45
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You can get about 3 silver weapons by near the end of chapter 3 by just doing sidequests for Alm's side. Possibly enough to squeeze upgrading the Ridersbane into Rhomponia but that might be overkill. Zweihander seems nice but almost nobody uses swords on Alm's route since Alm himself is dedicated to the royal sword. Actually, that's what bugs me is that Alm is basically lance city while Celica has a variety of weapon users.
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Zore posted:No, though I guess technically 3/12 are a sequel since they take place after and feature characters that were in Gaiden. I think Sirius says some things that make more sense if you've played Gaiden but he doesn't directly expound on anything The whitewings straight up do not mention their Valentian adventures
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May 25, 2017 19:48
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Regarding (ending) Sonya, I just took her "becoming a witch" to mean she took up residence there and wanted to live alone and scared people off, a more classical "witch". Without a Duma to offer your soul to/give you power, you can't really become a witch. But hey you can read it however you want to, it will never be further expanded upon.
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Zore posted:I don't get why you can't use the turnwheel if Celica or Alm bite it. Who do you think is using the turnwheel 
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Zore posted:No, though I guess technically 3/12 are a sequel since they take place after and feature characters that were in Gaiden. Dang, that's sad. But I guess it's not too surprising, it is called Gaiden after-all
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Terper posted:Regarding (ending) Sonya, I just took her "becoming a witch" to mean she took up residence there and wanted to live alone and scared people off, a more classical "witch". Without a Duma to offer your soul to/give you power, you can't really become a witch. Well, I was kinda thinking it was a sequel hook that Duma isn't really dead, or maybe his power was still alive or whatever. that's why I asked haha
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May 25, 2017 19:53
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Honestly, dragons being revived eviler and more powerful than before is a series staple so They can also sorta live on through humans who bear their brand (e.g. Julius from FE4)
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Is it possible to change a characters base class later in the game? I went with Pegasus Knight for Faye but she might as well be made of cardboard.
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Vakal posted:Is it possible to change a characters base class later in the game? There's a free DLC that reverts a character to Villager class.
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May 25, 2017 20:10
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What's the name of the theme that plays on the player turn for Celica? Also can you recruit Palla and Catria as Alm if you don't do so as Celica? Debating if I should do so on a second playthrough.
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Cuntellectual posted:What's the name of the theme that plays on the player turn for Celica? Alm can't visit Celica's areas ever (well, until post-game when the armies merge rather)
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May 25, 2017 20:53
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Sooooo... Sonya or Deen?
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Sooooo... Sonya or Deen? A powerful, speedy mage or yet another sword user when you already have Kamui, Saber, and Jesse
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May 25, 2017 20:57
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Tae posted:There's a free DLC that reverts a character to Villager class. i thought the free one only gave boots? or are there 2 DLC's and I missed one?
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Tae posted:There's a free DLC that reverts a character to Villager class. Oh, so that's what the pitchfork does. I thought it was just joke weapon or something. Thanks.
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May 25, 2017 21:27
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So I went the wrong way on the Celica path and those two Pegasus sisters left me. Are they gone forever? gently caress!
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mandatory lesbian posted:i thought the free one only gave boots? or are there 2 DLC's and I missed one? There's 5 free DLCs. One per week. The one out this week is the first villager's fork. The 4th week is the other. The 5th week is apparently unknown? Detective No. 27 posted:So I went the wrong way on the Celica path and those two Pegasus sisters left me. Are they gone forever? gently caress! Go back to where you recruited them and they'll be there.
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Detective No. 27 posted:So I went the wrong way on the Celica path and those two Pegasus sisters left me. Are they gone forever? gently caress! Go back to town and you can re-recruit them
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The 5th is a third fork.
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This dungeon I'm in is rough, yeesh. Went back in after I finally made it out to save and there's a battle with like 5 goddamn Necrodragons, two of which seem to be upgraded Necrodragons and OUCH. All I can say is thank gently caress I'm playing on Casual, because this is messy. (It's the Path of the Living. The Mila statue did warn me not to go there unless my greed exceeds my desire to live.  )
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Cuntellectual posted:What's the name of the theme that plays on the player turn for Celica? "With Mila's Divine Protection". You may have heard it in Super Smash Bros.
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So it is! I didn't even recognize it, huh.Endorph posted:the complexity of love and how it can be warped, unrequited, or rendered meaningless is this game's entire theme. literally every character in the game up to and including slayde is motivated by love - familial, paternal, platonic, romantic, internal, external. it's the entire reason the whitewings are in this game. being able to play matchmaker would literally destroy the theme that gaiden had this entire time. im not saying it's an especially deep theme or that gaiden or echoes does a lot with it, but i'd rather a game have a theme that it actually sticks to, even if it's underdeveloped, than sacrifice it on the altar of shipping. That's a fair position. I've just gotten used to Fire Emblem Shipping Simulator 20XX. I also found I liked Celica more when she was off doing her own thing. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 21:58 on May 25, 2017 |
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How badly can you gently caress up by making your units the wrong type? I havent been worrying too much about it but I made Faye a Pegasus Knight and Gray a Mercenary, instead of cleric and cavalry, thinking Faye would be like that generic Pegasus Knight you get early on in every FE, that becomes a glass cannon, but then in like the literal next map, I ended up recruiting that one girl who starts as a pegasus knight and is probably the glass cannon. I also made Tobin an archer and Kliff a mage. Now Im fighting a bunch of cavalry dudes and kinda like, peg knights dont hit hard enough and are low defense, so their extra mobility doesnt matter for much. Did I gently caress up?
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Devoyniche posted:How badly can you gently caress up by making your units the wrong type? I havent been worrying too much about it but I made Faye a Pegasus Knight and Gray a Mercenary, instead of cleric and cavalry, thinking Faye would be like that generic Pegasus Knight you get early on in every FE, that becomes a glass cannon, but then in like the literal next map, I ended up recruiting that one girl who starts as a pegasus knight and is probably the glass cannon. I also made Tobin an archer and Kliff a mage. Now Im fighting a bunch of cavalry dudes and kinda like, peg knights dont hit hard enough and are low defense, so their extra mobility doesnt matter for much. Did I gently caress up? Faye is always good. You can turn one mercenary into a Good Unit by giving them the lightning sword (which you get early)--it really doesn't matter what their stats are at that point Kliff is pretty good as a mage Tobin might be kinda hosed though
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So I beat the main game, and now there's chapter 6 postgame. I'm kinda done to my satisfaction, is there more story now or is it just your typical postgame dungeon for folks who wanna keep playing?
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Bruceski posted:So I beat the main game, and now there's chapter 6 postgame. I'm kinda done to my satisfaction, is there more story now or is it just your typical postgame dungeon for folks who wanna keep playing? It's a series of boring, punishing boat maps followed by a dungeon which I never did when playing through the first time but is by all accounts terrible. There's a bit of plot which ties in with Awakening
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Bruceski posted:So I beat the main game, and now there's chapter 6 postgame. I'm kinda done to my satisfaction, is there more story now or is it just your typical postgame dungeon for folks who wanna keep playing? There's a bit of ~lore~ that is just a couple of sentences of text on the wall as well as a pretty surprising final boss. I didn't, and won't, bother. v v
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Devoyniche posted:How badly can you gently caress up by making your units the wrong type? I havent been worrying too much about it but I made Faye a Pegasus Knight and Gray a Mercenary, instead of cleric and cavalry, thinking Faye would be like that generic Pegasus Knight you get early on in every FE, that becomes a glass cannon, but then in like the literal next map, I ended up recruiting that one girl who starts as a pegasus knight and is probably the glass cannon. I also made Tobin an archer and Kliff a mage. Now Im fighting a bunch of cavalry dudes and kinda like, peg knights dont hit hard enough and are low defense, so their extra mobility doesnt matter for much. Did I gently caress up? Tobin was fine as an archer for me, particularly since the Killer Bow has a double-attack art for lategame. People tend to reccomend mercs because they're a handy unit, brave swords are easy to come by for 50% and up crit rates, and their class bases in speed and skill make up for the low growths of a lot of characters, but really anyone can do well in any class depending on how you use them. Faye's the toughest choice because the mobility for peg knights is great but as a cleric she gets Physic and Rescue which are incredibly handy.
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I had Archer Tobin on my first run and he turned out decent. He was basically Python that was slightly faster with waaaay more skill, and having two archers is never a bad thing considering how busted Killer Bows are. My rule of thumb is basically don't make Alm's friends knights or cavs, because you already get two each on that route.
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Zore posted:No, yeah the supports in Echoes are real bad and I have no idea why people keep holding them up as something the series should continue with. Forsythe/Python is very good and Saber/Jesse is okay.
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there are some boring supports in echoes but there are also some good ones and im glad i dont have to trudge through 90 bad supports until i randomly hit the 10 good ones, is my take.
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Bruceski posted:So I beat the main game, and now there's chapter 6 postgame. I'm kinda done to my satisfaction, is there more story now or is it just your typical postgame dungeon for folks who wanna keep playing? it's plot set-up for awakening. not spoilering that because lol.
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Bruceski posted:Tobin was fine as an archer for me, particularly since the Killer Bow has a double-attack art for lategame. People tend to reccomend mercs because they're a handy unit, brave swords are easy to come by for 50% and up crit rates, and their class bases in speed and skill make up for the low growths of a lot of characters, but really anyone can do well in any class depending on how you use them. Faye's the toughest choice because the mobility for peg knights is great but as a cleric she gets Physic and Rescue which are incredibly handy. I think mage Faye actually has a lot to recommend her. Physic and rescue are hard to give up but imo the thing Alm is missing most is offensive firepower, and that's what mage Faye brings to the table
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Supremezero posted:There's 5 free DLCs. One per week. The one out this week is the first villager's fork. The 4th week is the other. The 5th week is apparently unknown? ah, i see. thanks for letting me know!
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i mean, I'm probably not using it but still, good to know.
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