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Lord of the Jammed doesn't deal contact damage, it's just the occasional wave of bullets you have to worry about. You can also buy stuff from a shopkeeper if you're fast enough and purchase the item before he enters the room, they hide and take down all their items as soon as he shows up rather than when he fires a wave at you. Spending another 40 at the shrine probably would have been your best bet since all the stores are basically unusable once LotJ shows up.
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dscruffy1 posted:Close! Do you want to? I could use the help >_>
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May 21, 2017 23:14
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Other things: Lord of the Jammed will never go away, even if you drop your curse back down below 10. You cannot use the shop while being followed by the Lord of the Jammed. Lord of the Jammed can and will attack you during cutscenes.
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May 21, 2017 23:31
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Samuel Clemens posted:The boss room you've encountered is a weird map generation bug. It's incredibly rare, and I have no idea what causes it. This happened to me as well the other day, and it freaked me out since I'd never seen it in the LP or generally in gameplay. I was wondering if it was a curse thing, maybe? I think that was the one run where I had the Fightsabre.
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May 21, 2017 23:59
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Lord of the Jammed doesn't deal contact damage, it's just the occasional wave of bullets you have to worry about. You can also buy stuff from a shopkeeper if you're fast enough and purchase the item before he enters the room, they hide and take down all their items as soon as he shows up rather than when he fires a wave at you. Spending another 40 at the shrine probably would have been your best bet since all the stores are basically unusable once LotJ shows up. I'll pretty much always blow all of my money on the Y.V. shrine whenever it shows. Because the chance scales linearly, spending 60 casings on three uses of the shrine means you now have a 11.1% chance for Pop to trigger - a hair over 1 in 9 shots in average. Getting a fourth use out of it (at a total cost of 100 casings) brings the chance to 14.8%, which is a bit over 1 in 7 shots. Sadly, it would cost 3780 casings to use the shrine enough to get guaranteed Pop on every shot.
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May 22, 2017 00:15
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Olesh posted:I'll pretty much always blow all of my money on the Y.V. shrine whenever it shows. Because the chance scales linearly, spending 60 casings on three uses of the shrine means you now have a 11.1% chance for Pop to trigger - a hair over 1 in 9 shots in average. Getting a fourth use out of it (at a total cost of 100 casings) brings the chance to 14.8%, which is a bit over 1 in 7 shots. Since Pop can trigger off Popped shots, wouldn't a guaranteed trigger mean firing once causes an unending stream of bullets?
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betamax hipster posted:Since Pop can trigger off Popped shots, wouldn't a guaranteed trigger mean firing once causes an unending stream of bullets? Given that you'd have to be cheating in the first place to acquire the casings, I'm not sure that's really out of line. Can Pop really trigger off of its own shots? I've never seen that.
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May 22, 2017 01:11
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Can you do a max curse, max cool run?
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May 22, 2017 02:00
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Losing access to the shop just seems like insult to injury for a Jammed run.
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On the note of explosions opening secret rooms I think it's to do with the fact that explosions blank bullets, and they probably copied that code from the normal blank, which gives them the same interaction with secret room walls as a normal blank.
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May 22, 2017 02:31
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The Bullet's invulnerability to contact damage makes it best candidate for Curse runs, IMO. I do find it irritating that there's no unlock for a cursed run, tho.
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May 22, 2017 02:49
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dscruffy1 posted:Close! why didn't you see what would happen if you leave the boss room while the boss was active 
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Mooseontheloose posted:Can you do a max curse, max cool run? Coolness and curse both affect your chances of drops in opposite ways. Curse will lower your chance to get drops after clearing a room, coolness raises it. There is a special item that will give you coolness scaling with the amount of curse you have but once you get to 13-14 curse like I had in that run you're going to have a bad time. Unless you've got a really good way of killing jammed enemies, and I didn't. Theoretically, there is no max and both of them can stack infinitely.
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May 22, 2017 06:57
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Curse also has a separate effect of raising your chance to get ammo drops on room clear, so things don't get too bad on that front.
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May 22, 2017 07:26
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dscruffy1 posted:Coolness and curse both affect your chances of drops in opposite ways. Curse will lower your chance to get drops after clearing a room, coolness raises it. There is a special item that will give you coolness scaling with the amount of curse you have but once you get to 13-14 curse like I had in that run you're going to have a bad time. Unless you've got a really good way of killing jammed enemies, and I didn't. Your ability to modify your coolness and curse are also limited. It's not like you can simply decide "oh hey I want to get ALL THE CURSE" on any given run, aside from the shrine at the beginning that starts you with 9 curse. There simply might not be any sources of curse at all. Same thing with coolness. Both coolness and curse also have a soft cap of sorts at 10 points, where certain effects cap out and other effects continue to increase. For coolness, the soft cap is that active items can only have their cooldowns reduced to 50%. At 10 Curse, there is a 50% chance of any enemy or boss becoming Jammed, and this no longer increases with higher curse levels. The scaling for enemies/bosses becoming jammed isn't quite linear, as the chance for bosses to be Jammed is 0% for 0-6 curse, 20 for 7-8 curse, 30% at 9 curse, and then jumps straight to 50% at 10 curse. For regular enemies, it starts at 1% with 1-2 curse, 2% at 3-4 curse, 5% at 5-6 curse, 10% at 7 curse, and then 25% at 9 curse and 50% at 10 curse. The other effects scale linearly with curse, and these are the following, per point of curse: - 2.1% increased chance of a chest becoming a Mimic - +5% chance of a chest having a fuse - -1% chance of a room reward - +5% chance of an ammo reward (this is calculated separately and differently than the normal room reward - it's possible, though rare, to get an ammo drop as a "room reward" and get the ammo reward in order to get two ammo drops from clearing one room). - - This doesn't mean at 10 curse you have a 50% chance of getting ammo from every room - rather, the base chance of a bonus ammo reward goes up by 50%, so you see 50% more ammo boxes. The Lord of the Jammed, by the way, does go away if you manage to reduce your curse below 10. However, he persists for the remainder of the current floor and does not actually go away until you reach the next chamber.
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I think blood brooch actually gives you half heart per bunch of damage dealt, not as a chance per kill.
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Lord_Magmar posted:On the note of explosions opening secret rooms I think it's to do with the fact that explosions blank bullets, and they probably copied that code from the normal blank, which gives them the same interaction with secret room walls as a normal blank. AFAIK, the only two explosions that can open secret rooms are the Bomb active item and Lil' Bomber (since it fires bombs). Nothing else works. So there must be a specific exception for these two items in the code. Interestingly, the Dark Marker can't open secret rooms either, despite its charge attack firing a blank-like effect.
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Samuel Clemens posted:AFAIK, the only two explosions that can open secret rooms are the Bomb active item and Lil' Bomber (since it fires bombs). Nothing else works. So there must be a specific exception for these two items in the code. Would the bomb thing then be a reference to something like the Zelda games? I remember you break walls with bombs in almost all of them.
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Quite possibly. The Bomb does have a synergy with the Bow, so it's probably meant to be a Zelda reference.
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Xarn posted:I think blood brooch actually gives you half heart per bunch of damage dealt, not as a chance per kill. Yup. Half a heart per 1200 damage done by the player. Incidentally having the brooch also reduces the Trick Gun's reload time. 
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May 23, 2017 05:12
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After 33 hours since the Supply Drop update, and 92 loving deaths, I finally killed the Dragun. Balloon gun is OP.
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Without this video, I'd never realized that there were legit consequences for getting too cursed besides fighting Jammed enemies, despite running into this bastard once  generally I prefer posted:This happened to me as well the other day, and it freaked me out since I'd never seen it in the LP or generally in gameplay. I was wondering if it was a curse thing, maybe? I think that was the one run where I had the Fightsabre. Same! I had the Yellow Chamber that spawns and despawns charmed enemies with stone tentacles. I thought that the reaper was summoned because I was protecting the charmed enemies to see that cool despawn animation, but I also had the Huntsman, the Fightsabre, Cursed Bullets, I bought the YC from Cursela, and I had prayed at the winged bullet statue... The only thing that I can't decide is good or bad is that he's untouchable, as in bullets don't touch him. So on one hand, he can't be frozen or charmed or made to slow down, but he also doesn't tank your shots for other enemies And hey Scruffy, does this still work post Supply Drop? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUflIq_4gNs I don't have a second controller to test it, and I'd love to see if the Cultist has a past. That exact video was actually the first I'd seen of the game
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The Door Frame posted:And hey Scruffy, does this still work post Supply Drop? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUflIq_4gNs I don't have a second controller to test it, and I'd love to see if the Cultist has a past. That exact video was actually the first I'd seen of the game Haven't actually tried it post supply drop, but there are a couple of problems with that When you have a dead teammate in coop all chests become "revival chests" which revives the dead teammate. Also, the cultist can't actually pick up the bullet that kills the past. If he fires it, he rewinds to earlier that day and then the cultist and player 1 duel.
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The Door Frame posted:And hey Scruffy, does this still work post Supply Drop? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUflIq_4gNs I don't have a second controller to test it, and I'd love to see if the Cultist has a past. That exact video was actually the first I'd seen of the game It's not really much of a spoiler, but I don't plan on showing it off. If you're dedicated you can play as the Cultist, it just requires two methods of control and killing off one of the players a lot. The problem with that is that in co-op mode, if you've got a dead player, every chest will be a revival chest. So you don't have as many upgrade opportunities. The Cultist's past is a one-on-one gunfight with the main character. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mW2uhkjrWo
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Oh, you hadn't talked much about the cultist before, so I spoiler-tagged it, but I can definitely see why you didn't say much... There just isn't that much to say
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That video was absolutely magical, Scruffy. An obvious no-win situation, but oh my god, the suspense.
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dscruffy1 posted:It's not really much of a spoiler, but I don't plan on showing it off. Oh my god he gets a little apple costume! How cute!
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stuck in shortcut factory send help More Shortcuts!/Polsy Who is next to ENTER THE GUNGEON?
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Welp, I didn't know. SugarAddict fucked around with this message at 21:06 on May 25, 2017 |
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SugarAddict posted:You left money on the floor next to the first boss. Credits are automatically collected when you leave the room. You can see the collection symbols after he teleports.
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Scruffy never bothered to wait on opening a chest to use the chest teleporter though. Might as well have sold it and bought bullet time for all the good he let it do him. e: Of course it's the last floor before he dies he gives it a shot. e2: To contribute a little more, teleported chests either show up in the starting room or boss foyer - the boss foyer is where it'll be upgraded, otherwise it stays whatever rank it had been. On the plus side, chests with broken locks courtesy of Trusty Lockpicks that get teleported will be fully opened on the next floor. Ignatius M. Meen fucked around with this message at 22:17 on May 25, 2017 |
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Man, a Brent Weeks reference is something I wasn't expecting tbh
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I'm surprised you didn't use that muncher in 3rd floor shop.
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I'm not critiquing your skills at this game, since you are v. good at it, but I know on a jammed run I'd be using other weapons besides the basic pistol much more frequently, even on early levels. Edit: Re. the BFG; there's no need to be coy; we're all adults here. The 'F' stands for friendly! Samovar fucked around with this message at 05:46 on May 26, 2017 |
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Ha ha, noticed for the first time that poor Smiles' teeth get punched out all over the floor with a little tinkling noise when you KO him.
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Finally got around to picking the game up due to your lp. I've done reasonably well, learning the boss patterns is what's been ending most of my runs, but it is getting better. I can't remember, but did you have any runs where you ran into the shadow magician? All of a sudden I've hit him like every other run the last six or seven runs. Not terribly difficult, but a bit of a surprise the first time I wandered in and saw him. Anyone know what this door is? I've run into it twice in a row now, wasn't able to enter the first time, it booted me out and took a half heart. Just ran into it again on the next run. 
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amishjosh posted:Finally got around to picking the game up due to your lp. I've done reasonably well, learning the boss patterns is what's been ending most of my runs, but it is getting better. I can't remember, but did you have any runs where you ran into the shadow magician? All of a sudden I've hit him like every other run the last six or seven runs. Not terribly difficult, but a bit of a surprise the first time I wandered in and saw him. It's a grand market. Need at least one curse or 100 shells to enter. All the shopkeeps are there with half price items.
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amishjosh posted:Anyone know what this door is? I've run into it twice in a row now, wasn't able to enter the first time, it booted me out and took a half heart. Just ran into it again on the next run. If you ever come across this door again, shoot it with a water-based weapon for some fun times.
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amishjosh posted:Finally got around to picking the game up due to your lp. I've done reasonably well, learning the boss patterns is what's been ending most of my runs, but it is getting better. I can't remember, but did you have any runs where you ran into the shadow magician? All of a sudden I've hit him like every other run the last six or seven runs. Not terribly difficult, but a bit of a surprise the first time I wandered in and saw him. Unfortunately the Shadow Magician came up in the Lost Episode(tm). Hopefully I'll run into him again soon!
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Samuel Clemens posted:If you ever come across this door again, shoot it with a water-based weapon for some fun times. What happens? (In spoilers, plz)
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