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yeah I eat rear end posted:They think improving social support networks will hurt them. They vote against it because they don't want to be hurt. How is that not selfish? It does not matter that they are wrong, all that matters is what they THINK. They then use these thoughts to govern their actions. When they act in a way they think benefits themselves more than others, that is pretty much the dictionary definition of selfish. People are not INHERENTLY selfish. They are trained to act selfishly through constant bombardment of bullshit. You're mistaking the result of indoctrination for the natural state of humanity. The idea of "people are inherently selfish" vs "people are inherently cooperative" is the core of left vs right wing political theory. I personally believe that people are naturally cooperative, and elites are just very very good at convincing people otherwise. So good that people behave selfishly and truly believe it's natural, and that even those who say they are left wing believe it's true and a natural flaw to overcome.
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Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:People are not INHERENTLY selfish. They are trained to act selfishly through constant bombardment of bullshit. You're mistaking the result of indoctrination for the natural state of humanity. You could be right, I can only just speak from personal experience. Selfishness isn't unique to conservatives (again, in my experience), even the most liberal of my friends are always looking out for themselves first regardless of their rhetoric that would suggest otherwise.
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May 25, 2017 14:56
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Humans clearly are a very social species. If you go into some untold wilderness and discover a tribe of cannibals, they will be working together to get their meat. Cooperation is natural.
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May 25, 2017 14:59
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Septum piercings are never a positive addition to anyone's look.
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May 25, 2017 16:40
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yeah I eat rear end posted:
FTFY. And yes, I'm including earrings.
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May 25, 2017 16:53
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Tiggum posted:FTFY. And yes, I'm including earrings. I don't know, I think some earrings can be tasteful. The problem is when they draw attention to themselves over everything else. They should just be accessories at most, not features. With that said, people can wear or pierce whatever they want to and I'd never tell someone they shouldn't wear their ugly bull ring thing. I'm just registering my apparently unpopular opinion based on other people my age that I think it looks bad.
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May 25, 2017 16:57
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It's a look, like having loud tattoos or brands or whatever. The goal is if anything to not be "tasteful", on purpose.
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May 25, 2017 17:01
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yeah I eat rear end posted:It's kind of hard to convince people to knowingly vote against their own interests though. I mean, they do it all the time, but they don't think they are. I don't think it's hard to understand. If you told somebody they're voting against their own interests, I don't think it's controversial to suggest that the most probable response you'll get is going to be, "And who are you to tell me what my own interests are?" It's not why Brexit happened, but it is why Remain lost.
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May 25, 2017 17:09
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I think almost all facial piercings look dumb. Dermal anchors are hilarious though, yeah lemme get this painful rear end piercing that's gonna get ripped out in a week.
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May 25, 2017 17:23
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Yeah those anchors are gross and stupid as hell but so many people get them in the middle of their clavicle or on their forearm or somewhere stupid as poo poo.
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May 25, 2017 17:29
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doverhog posted:Humans clearly are a very social species. If you go into some untold wilderness and discover a tribe of cannibals, they will be working together to get their meat. Cooperation is natural. To a point. You cooperate with your tribe, but not with other tribes*. Both of these things are in our nature and it's just a matter of where we set the tribal boundaries * broadly speaking. Tribes form alliances and things all the time but the basic idea of an in-group and an out-group remains.
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May 25, 2017 17:38
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I like every kind of earring. You can almost always make them work. (I say almost to dissuade the goon hastily GISing "ugliest earring" to PROVE ME WRONG. You literalist piece of poo poo.)
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May 25, 2017 19:13
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Those huge ear gauge things are dumb looking most kd the time. Same for any clothing or enhancement that makes you a hazard or hard to move around.
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May 25, 2017 19:15
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Horizontal nipple piercings are preferable to vertical nipple piercings. This is true for male and female bodies, lest any of you think I'm some kind of pervert.
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May 25, 2017 19:19
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Being able to down drinks really quickly isn't something to be proud of or a sign of an "experienced drinking" any more than a professional speed eater is some sort of foodie. Also shots are stupid, if you don't like the taste of something enough to savour it you should drink something else. Speed drinking shows a total unappreciation for the drink and that the person only drinks to get drunk rather than enjoy their beverage.
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May 25, 2017 19:24
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Baronjutter posted:Being able to down drinks really quickly isn't something to be proud of or a sign of an "experienced drinking" any more than a professional speed eater is some sort of foodie. Also shots are stupid, if you don't like the taste of something enough to savour it you should drink something else. Speed drinking shows a total unappreciation for the drink and that the person only drinks to get drunk rather than enjoy their beverage. *tips fedora*
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Baronjutter posted:Being able to down drinks really quickly isn't something to be proud of or a sign of an "experienced drinking" any more than a professional speed eater is some sort of foodie. Also shots are stupid, if you don't like the taste of something enough to savour it you should drink something else. Speed drinking shows a total unappreciation for the drink and that the person only drinks to get drunk rather than enjoy their beverage. I'll disagree slightly on the grounds that sometimes getting drunk is its own reward. Otherwise, agreed. Also, drinking games are moderately obnoxious in College, and people older than that who still play drinking games are just shameful. Just play poker or ping pong and drink at your own drat speed, you'll always have more fun.
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May 25, 2017 21:04
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Twitch posted:I'll disagree slightly on the grounds that sometimes getting drunk is its own reward. Otherwise, agreed. Also, drinking games are moderately obnoxious in College, and people older than that who still play drinking games are just shameful. https://www.amazon.com/DRINK-PALOOZA-Board-Game-old-school/dp/B008RQ1PSK
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May 25, 2017 21:08
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My favorite drinking game is finding a dark room to drink alone in. My favorite reefer game is wake 'n bake.
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May 25, 2017 22:01
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Caufman posted:Horizontal nipple piercings are preferable to vertical nipple piercings. I have never seen or heard of a vertical nipple piercing.
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May 25, 2017 22:07
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I mean I get drinking games. They are a good way to break the ice in the first couple of hours. But there is a point where it's like ok we've played this poo poo enough let's move on.
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May 25, 2017 22:29
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Baronjutter posted:Being able to down drinks really quickly isn't something to be proud of or a sign of an "experienced drinking" any more than a professional speed eater is some sort of foodie. Also shots are stupid, if you don't like the taste of something enough to savour it you should drink something else. Speed drinking shows a total unappreciation for the drink and that the person only drinks to get drunk rather than enjoy their beverage. lol People like you that say "I don't drink alcohol to get drunk, I drink it for the taste  " are so full of poo poo and everyone knows it including you. I mean I enjoy a cold beer as much as anyone, but there's plenty of value in doing shots too. I do shots when I want to jumpstart my buzz without consuming a bunch of empty calories mixing it with soda or whatever
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May 25, 2017 22:39
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Why not both?
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May 25, 2017 22:40
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Baronjutter posted:Being able to down drinks really quickly isn't something to be proud of or a sign of an "experienced drinking" any more than a professional speed eater is some sort of foodie. Also shots are stupid, if you don't like the taste of something enough to savour it you should drink something else. Speed drinking shows a total unappreciation for the drink and that the person only drinks to get drunk rather than enjoy their beverage. In my circle of friends shots have always been a celebratory thing, like birthday/getting married/ had a kid. Don't get me wrong we used to bang them down back in the day but we'll still do one or two occasionally for nostalgias sake. It's not about catching a buzz at all honestly.
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May 25, 2017 22:41
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starkebn posted:Why not both? Only two? Freaking lightweight.
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starkebn posted:Why not both? Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at.
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May 25, 2017 22:42
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The best drinking game is putting on a lovely movie and "Drink every time [x]."
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Das Boo posted:The best drinking game is putting on a lovely movie and "Drink every time [x]." Put on a white zombie or rob zombie album and drink everytime he says "yeah!" It's a very short game.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I know you're probably thinking this stuff is isolated to the South because you're jastiger, but people are inherently selfish and will usually only help others if it doesn't hurt them in a meaningful/major way to do so. Yeah, to be 100% honest I only really care on an emotional level about myself and my family and close friends. While I would still make myself vote for the greater good, it would be because I'm forcing myself to adhere to something I rationally realize is more "morally correct" rather than an actual desire on my part. And even then, there are limits to how far I'm willing to go. Fortunately, it turns out that stuff like helping minorities or providing for the poor doesn't actually have any noticeable negative impacts on anyone other than the rich (who can easily absorb the cost), so this moral dilemma rarely becomes an issue. I think that most people are willing to help others provided that they haven't been convinced that doing so will harm themselves in the process (which is basically what Republicans have managed to convince a bunch of white people about helping minorities). This is why it's so important for Democrats to actively make the case for how they can help people, rather than just relying on everyone voting against Republicans for the greater good. If the Democrats aren't selling an actual positive message, it's easier for folks like Trump to swoop in and say "Yeah I'll make things better for you" and for people to believe them. Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:People are not INHERENTLY selfish. They are trained to act selfishly through constant bombardment of bullshit. You're mistaking the result of indoctrination for the natural state of humanity. It depends how you define "selfish." I think it's definitely true that most people are not willing to noticeably suffer for the sake of others they don't personally know, but I also think people can be convinced to cooperate provided their own needs are already met. Ytlaya has a new favorite as of 23:16 on May 25, 2017 |
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Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:People are not INHERENTLY selfish. They are trained to act selfishly through constant bombardment of bullshit. You're mistaking the result of indoctrination for the natural state of humanity. Back this up please, because I'm just as willing to say people are INHERENTLY selfish and have to learn cooperation. Have you ever had to raise kids?
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bradzilla posted:Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at. Getting drunk as poo poo is awesome and fine, just why not drink something you enjoy rather than a thing you have to seemingly endure? "ewww yuck I gotta drink this tequila really fast then lick this poo poo to get the icky taste out of my mouth!". If you aren't savoring every sip of your tequila drink something else or give it to me. There's no shame in not liking certain hard liquor, just drink something else. It's like ordering a bunch of really nice sushi then swallowing it all down like a seagull because "oh god I hate the taste of raw fish, I just want to get full really fast!". Order food you like you dumbshit, get full AND enjoy the process.
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Baronjutter posted:Getting drunk as poo poo is awesome and fine, just why not drink something you enjoy rather than a thing you have to seemingly endure? "ewww yuck I gotta drink this tequila really fast then lick this poo poo to get the icky taste out of my mouth!". If you aren't savoring every sip of your tequila drink something else or give it to me. There's no shame in not liking certain hard liquor, just drink something else. I think you might be projecting your own thoughts of why people are doing what they're doing on to them and then getting mad at them.
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Field Mousepad posted:Put on a white zombie or rob zombie album and drink everytime he says "yeah!" Better game: put on a KMFDM album and drink every time they name check themselves. Finish your drink every time they say that they suck. Have a friend on hand to call an ambulance.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:Better game: put on a KMFDM album and drink every time they name check themselves. Finish your drink every time they say that they suck. Have a friend on hand to call an ambulance. Put on a Skinny Puppy album and drink anytime you don't understand what the hell a lyric is supposed to mean.
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starkebn posted:Back this up please, because I'm just as willing to say people are INHERENTLY selfish and have to learn cooperation. Have you ever had to raise kids? It's one of the oldest arguments of all time, but our success as a social species is pretty good evidence. And get with the times and play a switch / wii based drinking game.
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Twitch posted:I'll disagree slightly on the grounds that sometimes getting drunk is its own reward. Otherwise, agreed. Also, drinking games are moderately obnoxious in College, and people older than that who still play drinking games are just shameful. I've found as I've gotten older that when a drinking game pops up it's usually really half assed and people just do what they want. Also a drink usually means take a sip of your beer, which I was going to do anyways and probably did 10 times before I had to. and then if you don't do it no one says anything.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Put on a Skinny Puppy album and drink anytime you don't understand what the hell a lyric is supposed to mean. One time I had a fever so bad I was delusional and in that state Skinny Puppy lyrics made perfect sense to me. Sadly this understanding ended with the fever.
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veni veni veni posted:I've found as I've gotten older that when a drinking game pops up it's usually really half assed and people just do what they want. Also a drink usually means take a sip of your beer, which I was going to do anyways and probably did 10 times before I had to. and then if you don't do it no one says anything. Same, I usually drink beer pretty fast because I like most beers very cold. A couple weeks in Yorkshire did give me an appreciation for a nice hand-pumped ale served at cellar temperature, though. (edit: that last bit counts as a PHUA, at least in America)
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It's also possible to slam back alcohol you like. I like bourbon but I also want to get drunk, so I'm not gonna just sip at the bottle, I'm gonna down that poo poo or pour some shots
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I have a really hard time sympathizing with people born in privileged or exciting areas. Like say someone spins a sob story about growing up working-class in the Bronx, all I can think is "oh my god, cry me a river. You know how many of us working-class folks from rear end in a top hat of Nowhere, West Texas would literally commit murder to grow up in New York Fuckin City?" Kids who grow up where I'm from get all the meth and corrupt police, but also have never seen the ocean, or a building over four stories, or a restaurant that isn't subway, mcdonald's, or sonic. Our home is never on tv. No one ever immigrates there, unless maybe they're a day laborer on the down-low. A lovely apartment in a real city might as well be Beverly Hills to hicks like us. Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 04:34 on May 26, 2017 |
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