Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
America is a magical place. While they'll tell you about how great they are and how much of modernity is directly attributable to them, their citizens die on the streets of poverty and Arnie and Trump hold office.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
Real talk how much better is $15 in 2024 or whenever the tiered increase schedule is gonna be than 7.25 right now? Clearly better than not raising it all but not nearly as effective as starting it in 2013 when Democrats thought $10/hr was good enough. Hopefully the final bill when the Democrats take the house has a provision to index to inflation at the very least

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Mustached Demon posted:

Maybe she actually bought into doing something good? Did you negativity fueled asshats think of that?

To add, I think that a Dem Congress might actually be able to get a lot done with Donald, seeing as how he doesn't actually have any philosophical or political philosophy more complex than "Donald Trump good". His Cabinet is a big problem, but poo poo, look at how the GOP Congress has been able to crowbar him into things.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost
I had a loving terrible shift overnight. I mean, just miserable. I came home, ate breakfast, lazed about on the internet for a bit, and went to sleep still annoyed about the overnight.

And when I woke up, the travel ban was struck down again and there were pictures of loving Macron smirking as he crushed Trump's hand. I feel so much better now.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







STAC Goat posted:

I think it's a matter of time for Hannity. Even if he drops this Seth Rich thing and manages to survive it it's just a matter of time before he does something else insane and disgusting. Hannitys survived because he was too much of a joke for anyone to actually take seriously. This higher profile he currently has thanks to the turmoil at Fox and coziness with the Trump Admin shines a light on all the hosed up poo poo Hannity does on the regular. He'd have to dramatically change his act to avoid more scandals. And I think hes currently proving he can't do that.

They've had people go nuts and flame out before. At the end of Glenn Beck the only advertisers he had left were people that bought gold or whatever.

O'Riley wasn't about on air content, he just became untenable.

I just don't understand where Fox is going to go from here. They've weathered nonsense like this before and done fine. Birtherism was no less baseless and repulsive. These are clearly long knives from the Murdoch brothers.

But what do they do? What right wing personalities are waiting in the wings? Tucker Carlson is a ratings black hole. Judge whats her face is just another screaming head.

Their base is dying and new right wing poo poo heads aren't going to watch cable news.

I really think this is the beginning of the end for Fox News.

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

Tony Montana posted:

America is a magical place. While they'll tell you about how great they are and how much of modernity is directly attributable to them, their citizens die on the streets of poverty and Arnie and Trump hold office.

Aside from not knowing what the gently caress he was doing and thus being incompetent, wasn't Ahnold actually pretty decent?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 48 hours!

Arrgytehpirate posted:

I would clerk for Scalia and I'm not a lawyer or Republican, but when you get the chance to work for SCOTUS you take it.

What does this mean?

Like, be locked alive into his mausoleum to clerk for him in the afterlife, or what.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

QuoProQuid posted:

why would any congressional republican want to be associated with a guy charged with assaulting a reporter? i get that cynicism is often this thread's schtick, but it is difficult for me to imagine a world where alleged assault is a positive for a republican candidate. even if public response ends up being muted, every one of his colleagues is going to wonder when he might snap again and if he is worth spending tons of money to defend in the next cycle. at best, he gets tolerated.

game this out for me. i know that anne coulter and rush limbaugh might embrace him, because being crude is part of their brand, but endorsing attacks on journalists is still beyond the pale for most politicians and an extreme political liability. (see: bob etheridge)

If he wins the Dems are going to have a field day needling him, subtly insulting him and just generally trying to get him to snap, because if he assaults someone inside the Capitol he's in yuge trouble.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Thaddius the Large posted:

Interesting, what was Larry Craig like in person?

I was in high school so it wasn't anything deep. He was really well spoken and seemed like a decent person. That could have been the turd next to bucket of diarrhea effect since Crapo was there too. He was a tea party fuckwad before there was a tea party.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Koyaanisgoatse posted:

Yeesh. It's a pretty area to drive through but man I would not want to live in that part of the state

I live in Asheville. It's wonderful.

I work all over the area. It's full of people that will die the second they get what they voted for in regards to healthcare.

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


Supremezero posted:

"Oh woe is me, my congress members won't listen to what I say"

Bitches, I live in New York, there is literally no one I can talk to because they already agree with me. I can do exactly gently caress all about this situation! At least you people in deep red states can hope your words poke them slightly! Sucks!

yell at them anyway to make sure they don't get any funny ideas

make sure they know you're always watching, standing just behind them, breathing down their necks, fire ax in hand

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Bugsy posted:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/republicans-claim-1st-amendment-right-to-send-you-robo-voicemails/

gently caress you RNC and gently caress you even more if you approve this poo poo Ajit Pai.

Hahaha, I was watching loving knew that despite claiming fighting the "scourge" of robocalls, he'd turn around and give telemarketers even more advantages since they're businesses and can bribelobby him directly and the average citizen can't.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

rscott posted:

Real talk how much better is $15 in 2024 or whenever the tiered increase schedule is gonna be than 7.25 right now? Clearly better than not raising it all but not nearly as effective as starting it in 2013 when Democrats thought $10/hr was good enough. Hopefully the final bill when the Democrats take the house has a provision to index to inflation at the very least

Geez learn to take a win.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

QuoProQuid posted:

why would any congressional republican want to embrace a guy charged with assaulting a reporter? i get that cynicism is often this thread's schtick, but it is difficult for me to imagine a world where alleged assault is a positive for a republican candidate. even if public response ends up being muted, every one of his colleagues is going to wonder when he might snap again and if he is worth spending tons of money to defend in the next cycle.

game this out for me. i know that anne coulter and rush limbaugh might embrace these kinds of tactics, because being crude is part of their brand, but embracing attacks on journalists is still beyond the pale for most politicians and an extreme political liability. (see: bob etheridge)

The really hosed up reality of the current GOP is that they've gone all in on "winning at all costs". A bunch of Republican Congressmen said today some variation of defense for the guy because he's a Republican. Even the ones who didn't excuse him attacking a reporter or blaming the left or media still came around to "it's unfortunate but I still want the Republican to win.". So yeah, the sad reality is that the GOP will probably do everything they can to white wash this guy's record and insist the voters approved.

But I also agree with you that the reality is if he wins in a close race tonight that will mean a massive swing in the Dems favor and leave a very damaged opponent to go after with a better candidate and plan in 2018. And Republicans embracing this guy and what he now represents for 1 vote in the House will probably do more harm than good (even though it will probably be hard to gauge either).

Insurrectum
Nov 1, 2005

FuturePastNow posted:

Both my Senators are Democrats :smuggo:

Replace your smug feeling of satisfaction with a hopeless pit of despair and pent up rage--and you now know how it feels when someone tells you to "Contact your congressman" and you live in Washington DC. :smith:

Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer
Bodyslam election liveblog is up

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/montana-special-election/

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Insurrectum posted:

Replace your smug feeling of satisfaction with a hopeless pit of despair and pent up rage--and you now know how it feels when someone tells you to "Contact your congressman" and you live in Washington DC. :smith:

Your representative is one of the best nonvoting representatives of any gender in Congress.

Bueno Papi
May 10, 2009

FuturePastNow posted:

Both my Senators are Democrats :smuggo:

Me too but one of those democrats is Feinstein. So, it's sorta a push at this point.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

loving lol. This is a real sentence in a political analysis article in 2017.

quote:

One complicating factor in how the Gianforte body slam will affect tonight’s election is that a lot of the vote was cast pre-slam.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

FizFashizzle posted:

They've had people go nuts and flame out before. At the end of Glenn Beck the only advertisers he had left were people that bought gold or whatever.

O'Riley wasn't about on air content, he just became untenable.

I just don't understand where Fox is going to go from here. They've weathered nonsense like this before and done fine. Birtherism was no less baseless and repulsive. These are clearly long knives from the Murdoch brothers.

But what do they do? What right wing personalities are waiting in the wings? Tucker Carlson is a ratings black hole. Judge whats her face is just another screaming head.

Their base is dying and new right wing poo poo heads aren't going to watch cable news.

I really think this is the beginning of the end for Fox News.

It's really amazing how they managed to sexually harass the only competent younger women so that they ditched the place the second they noticed it was taking on water. Great job, geniuses.

Fox News as it had become was always going to have some real trouble adjusting to a world without Obama in power, but jesus it fell apart fast.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Bueno Papi posted:

Me too but one of those democrats is Feinstein. So, it's sorta a push at this point.

Here is a list of Republican Senators better than Feinstein:



...Snowe? The late Spector?

Edit gently caress Snowe is former too. Joementum, please stand as my second ready to slice my throat.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







STAC Goat posted:

The really hosed up reality of the current GOP is that they've gone all in on "winning at all costs". A bunch of Republican Congressmen said today some variation of defense for the guy because he's a Republican. Even the ones who didn't excuse him attacking a reporter or blaming the left or media still came around to "it's unfortunate but I still want the Republican to win.". So yeah, the sad reality is that the GOP will probably do everything they can to white wash this guy's record and insist the voters approved.

Yeah over the last 6-8 years most of your republican guys didn't get their start as politicians.

They were all random businessman and poo poo who A.) took a poo poo load of dark money and B.) wanted power and C.) have just been existing by opposing Barack Obama.

Now that he's gone, none of these people actually know how to govern, or create laws, or negotiate with the other side.

The only remedy for it is to vote all of them out.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Bueno Papi posted:

Me too but one of those democrats is Feinstein. So, it's sorta a push at this point.

I don't understand why nobody's primaried her yet. It's not like they'd lose the general

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Mahoning posted:

loving lol. This is a real sentence in a political analysis article in 2017.

Ben Jacobs was on Hayes' show earlier saying how surreal it was to be at the polling stations asking voters what they think of him getting bodyslammed. 2017 is getting us all.

Young Hegelian
Aug 27, 2012

AriadneThread posted:

yell at them anyway to make sure they don't get any funny ideas

make sure they know you're always watching, standing just behind them, breathing down their necks, fire ax in hand

Schumer has pretty clearly responded to pressure from the left in the last four months, so he's worth calling, I think.

I have called Feinstein once since January, and Barbara Lee and Kamala Harris twice each, usually just to say "I am your constituent, you don't need to call me back. These issues are important to me, I see the public statements you have made, please keep up the fight." It takes two minutes, and they at least tally your statements, even if it doesn't do much.

ISeeCuckedPeople
Feb 7, 2017

by Smythe
Guys I want you all to calm down and remember. Winning or Losing in Montana is not a clear indicator of what the futures holds for the stability of our great country.

I would like to remind you guys not to read too much into one single special election result or focus on it too much after the results come in.

edit: also my name is Barack Hussein Obama

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

as an addendum to my previous posts, let me just emphasize that quist is a banjo-playing political newcomer with tax problems and a tendency to put his foot in his mouth at the worst possible moments. the democratic party has spent relatively little money on this race compared to its opponents. half of the president's administration have descended upon the state to campaign for their candidate.

somehow, despite all these advantages, strategists were freaking out about a potential upset before yesterday's body slam. people should not feel disappointed even if gianforte wins, because this district was not meant to be competitive.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Liveblog of results

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/montana-special-election/

Aves Maria!
Jul 26, 2008

Maybe I'll drown

Bueno Papi posted:

Me too but one of those democrats is Feinstein. So, it's sorta a push at this point.

She old. So at least you'll be getting a new and better one somewhat soon.

Looking forward to returning to 2 D senators in 2020, once Gardner and his pretend "moderate" rear end is booted to the curb

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

Guys I want you all to calm down and remember. Winning or Losing in Montana is not a clear indicator of what the futures holds for the stability of our great country.

I would like to remind you guys not to read too much into one single special election result or focus on it too much after the results come in.

edit: also my name is Barack Hussein Obama

Hussein?

This guy's related to Sadam, get him! :black101:

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Supremezero posted:

Aside from not knowing what the gently caress he was doing and thus being incompetent, wasn't Ahnold actually pretty decent?

What? No. Not knowing what you're doing means you're not good. It doesn't matter he was the terminator. That actually has nothing to do with anything.

Trump has taught me a thing. I hate Liberals. I thought I was one, I had Dan Savage on my phone and listened for years. Then Trump taught me what happens when these people don't get their way. What happens when everyone doesn't agree in unison to everything they say. They loving suck, they whinge and literally cry and 'boycott' but its a joke because they're mostly low income earners so who really gives a gently caress about which lentils you're going to buy this week..

So yeah, I can't identify with these people. It's funny because I guess I was a 'default' Liberal, I didn't really think one way or the other but when I was asked it seemed like the Liberals made sense. But that's only on the surface, when push comes to shove I really don't like who they are and what they represent.

ISeeCuckedPeople
Feb 7, 2017

by Smythe

Tony Montana posted:

What? No. Not knowing what you're doing means you're not good. It doesn't matter he was the terminator. That actually has nothing to do with anything.

Trump has taught me a thing. I hate Liberals. I thought I was one, I had Dan Savage on my phone and listened for years. Then Trump taught me what happens when these people don't get their way. What happens when everyone doesn't agree in unison to everything they say. They loving suck, they whinge and literally cry and 'boycott' but its a joke because they're mostly low income earners so who really gives a gently caress about which lentils you're going to buy this week..

So yeah, I can't identify with these people. It's funny because I guess I was a 'default' Liberal, I didn't really think one way or the other but when I was asked it seemed like the Liberals made sense. But that's only on the surface, when push comes to shove I really don't like who they are and what they represent.

What are you now then? a socialist?

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

What are you now then? a socialist?

A hippie.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Tony Montana posted:

What? No. Not knowing what you're doing means you're not good. It doesn't matter he was the terminator. That actually has nothing to do with anything.

Trump has taught me a thing. I hate Liberals. I thought I was one, I had Dan Savage on my phone and listened for years. Then Trump taught me what happens when these people don't get their way. What happens when everyone doesn't agree in unison to everything they say. They loving suck, they whinge and literally cry and 'boycott' but its a joke because they're mostly low income earners so who really gives a gently caress about which lentils you're going to buy this week..

So yeah, I can't identify with these people. It's funny because I guess I was a 'default' Liberal, I didn't really think one way or the other but when I was asked it seemed like the Liberals made sense. But that's only on the surface, when push comes to shove I really don't like who they are and what they represent.

what is this post

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

What are you now then? a socialist?

It's the only ethical choice.

CarterUSM
Mar 17, 2004
Cornfield aviator
Hopefully this is the proper thread for it, I didn't see any specific threads in D&D for the special election.

For those who want to get REALLY into the weeds, here's a "Montana Election Cheat Sheet" from Bloomberg political analyst's Twitter that is a spreadsheet of the county-by-county results of the federal and gubernatorial elections going back to 2012. It also includes absentee ballots sent and received, so perhaps some pregame analysis of where the absentee ballots are distributed and their historical election spread could indicate how impactful they are this time around...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KOoM0pSyER-F-yDhSw6FdxS30RlFpWeviIbaa5IrVJc/edit#gid=722392603

CarterUSM fucked around with this message at 02:47 on May 26, 2017

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/alexis_levinson/status/867913461623377920

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

Guys I want you all to calm down and remember. Winning or Losing in Montana is not a clear indicator of what the futures holds for the stability of our great country.

I would like to remind you guys not to read too much into one single special election result or focus on it too much after the results come in.

edit: also my name is Barack Hussein Obama

Also, if there's like a 15 point swing tonight from November with a pretty objectively weak Dem candidate that's kind of the definition of "progress" and the sort of thing that should inspire hope to build upon.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
I no joke have the exact same first and last name of a member of Congress. I've thought about what nefarious poo poo I can get away with by utilizing it, but he's a democrat and he seems pretty cool so I don't wanna find out.

  • Locked thread