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"I would have liked to see montana... turn blue." *gets choke slammed off a big huge real mountain*
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axeil posted:Yeah I am absolutely baffled by it too. Governor I get...sort of. Local state issues can be different from the national environment. I mean, Maryland is one of the bluest states in the nation and it elected a Republican as Governor and he's fairly popular. Candidates matter!
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May 26, 2017 04:22
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Zwabu posted:Why is this MT special election being held in the first place? Did someone retire or join the Trump admin? The latter. Trump presumed this race wouldn't be close.
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May 26, 2017 04:22
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Ein Sexmonster posted:The vast majority of Americans aren't. The rest were already garbage people. "The vast majority of Americans" were supposed to see pussy-grabbing as a deal breaker. No, shut the gently caress up about the loving emails, if our democracy were even on the same planet as healthy no amount of hemming and hawing about a goddamn email server should have been enough to save a candidate who was recorded talking about how much he loves raping folks. We keep sitting around waiting for the electorate to realize that the GOP is a bunch of psychotic assholes as if that hasn't already happened and largely been met with a shrug.
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May 26, 2017 04:22
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Zwabu posted:Why is this MT special election being held in the first place? Did someone retire or join the Trump admin? The previous rep was named Sec of Interior
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Zwabu posted:Why is this MT special election being held in the first place? Did someone retire or join the Trump admin? Ryan Zinke was picked by Trump for Secretary of the interior edit: efb
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May 26, 2017 04:23
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Zwabu posted:Why is this MT special election being held in the first place? Did someone retire or join the Trump admin? Its Ryan Zinke's seat after he was named Secretary of the Interior. The idea being you choose someone whose seat will stay safely red.
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May 26, 2017 04:23
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fsif posted:This seat was going to be largely symbolic anyway, but unfortunately, instead of symbolizing "uh oh, maybe we gotta taper back on killing our constituents and our deference to the insane corrupt toddler", it symbolizes "ha! gently caress off, journalists.” Yeah, people are forgetting this means its open season on journalists. You can win an election while literally body slamming a reporting. Doesn't mean they'll assault them now, but it sure means they know they don't have to respect or fear journalists. In the most symbolic way possible, the free press in America is neutered. Not from this event, but the slow erosion in confidence due to Republicans politicizing the concept of facts that make it so the people we need to turn against Trump will gladly vote for him due to misinformation.
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May 26, 2017 04:23
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Spiritus Nox posted:"The vast majority of Americans" were supposed to see pussy-grabbing as a deal breaker. No, shut the gently caress up about the loving emails, if our democracy were even on the same planet as healthy no amount of hemming and hawing about a goddamn email server should have been enough to save a candidate who was recorded talking about how much he loves raping folks.
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axeil posted:Yeah I am absolutely baffled by it too. Governor I get...sort of. Local state issues can be different from the national environment. I mean, Maryland is one of the bluest states in the nation and it elected a Republican as Governor and he's fairly popular. Tester is a big square-jawed buzzcut man's man tough guy who can just barely win in Montana.
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May 26, 2017 04:23
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TildeATH posted:Wait who are the broke brains now? The people who think losing is winning or the people who think losing is losing? The people who think there was anything more than a slim chance of a Dem winning an R+20 seat. I mean, you gotta try. I myself got a bit overenthusiastic after the assault but when 2/3rds of the electorate has voted before they knew about it, its hard for it to matter. We lost, but by way less than we "should have" which means people in districts that are only R+2 like Barbara Comstock just poo poo a massive brick. The Dems don't need to win 330+ seats to take the House. They need to win 218, and tonight's results are in line with the last 3 specials that imply the Dems taking around 270.
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May 26, 2017 04:24
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Wait I just had a brainstorm. It's a retarded drunken idea but bear with me. What if the democrats all just jumped ship and joined the republican party, and then voted for the least lovely republican in all the primaries? We'd be a one party system but we are heading to that anyway because half the country would vote for Satan if there was an R by his name. Why are we not funding this?
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May 26, 2017 04:24
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8/10/3.5 that's a lot of toilets per person
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A lot of people saying it's a good sign it was a close race and shows good signs for other races, but it was a race against a guy who violently assaulted a reporter the day before election day, do you really think future races are going to be handed such a freebie the day before the election?
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May 26, 2017 04:24
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BardoTheConsumer posted:Wait I just had a brainstorm. It's a retarded drunken idea but bear with me. And why don't they make the whole plane out of the black box, huh????
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May 26, 2017 04:25
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BardoTheConsumer posted:Wait I just had a brainstorm. It's a retarded drunken idea but bear with me. Because this is literally the worst idea
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May 26, 2017 04:25
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Spiritus Nox posted:"The vast majority of Americans" were supposed to see pussy-grabbing as a deal breaker. No, shut the gently caress up about the loving emails, if our democracy were even on the same planet as healthy no amount of hemming and hawing about a goddamn email server should have been enough to save a candidate who was recorded talking about how much he loves raping folks. The electorate doesn't pay attention enough have a collective awakening, and is purely reactionary.
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May 26, 2017 04:25
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:And yet this congressional seat was +20R. Compare apples to apples. I don't see how comparing it to the presidential vote is apples-to-apples. The Republican won the 2016 Montana House election by 16 points.
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May 26, 2017 04:25
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:A lot of people saying it's a good sign it was a close race and shows good signs for other races, but it was a race against a guy who violently assaulted a reporter the day before election day, do you really think future races are going to be handed such a freebie the day before the election? Most of the votes was early voting
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May 26, 2017 04:25
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Zwabu posted:Why is this MT special election being held in the first place? Did someone retire or join the Trump admin? Trump's Interior Secretary is the guy who formally held the seat.
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May 26, 2017 04:25
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Ein Sexmonster posted:I'm still waiting for a point. Unless you're just kvetching about the US. The point is that I'm loving sick of people assuming that because the loving psychopath only won by 5 points or whatever this time that we're sure to get 'em next time.
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May 26, 2017 04:26
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BardoTheConsumer posted:Wait I just had a brainstorm. It's a retarded drunken idea but bear with me. I am sober enough to confirm that this is a great idea
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May 26, 2017 04:26
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:A lot of people saying it's a good sign it was a close race and shows good signs for other races, but it was a race against a guy who violently assaulted a reporter the day before election day, do you really think future races are going to be handed such a freebie the day before the election? Spiritus Nox posted:The point is that I'm loving sick of people assuming that because the loving psychopath only won by 5 points or whatever this time that we're sure to get 'em next time. Nothing is 'sure'. But ignoring the data because you're obsessed with winning now is stupid.
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May 26, 2017 04:26
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:A lot of people saying it's a good sign it was a close race and shows good signs for other races, but it was a race against a guy who violently assaulted a reporter the day before election day, do you really think future races are going to be handed such a freebie the day before the election? Montana voters swing heavily towards early voting. About 2/3 of voters cast their ballots before the chokeslam even happened.
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May 26, 2017 04:26
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:A lot of people saying it's a good sign it was a close race and shows good signs for other races, but it was a race against a guy who violently assaulted a reporter the day before election day, do you really think future races are going to be handed such a freebie the day before the election? In a place where most of the voting was done early and those voters cannot change their votes? Yeah.
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May 26, 2017 04:26
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If instead of saying "I'm sick and tired of hearing about your drat emails" Bernie had said "I'm so loving tired of hearing about your God drat emails, Jesus loving Christ who gives a poo poo" then none of this would be happening.
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May 26, 2017 04:26
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BardoTheConsumer posted:Wait I just had a brainstorm. It's a retarded drunken idea but bear with me. lol, you just drunk yourself stupid
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Spaced God posted:Because this is literally the worst idea But if we manage to lose in 2018 and 2020 it might be the only idea.
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Pakled posted:Montana voters swing heavily towards early voting. About 2/3 of voters cast their ballots before the chokeslam even happened. Politicians and voters will still see this as validation of the chokeslam, though.
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May 26, 2017 04:26
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Rigel posted:No, this is silly. No, look, it is totally legitimate for people to be disappointed in close losses like this and it's getting ridiculous how quickly this thread jumps on anyone who says so as if they're posting Covok-level doomsday nonsense. The point is that a close loss in an election actually gains the Democrats nothing and it doesn't really provide any new information. It confirms to some degree that there's a shift in sentiment happening, but we already know that. We know that from Donald Trump's approval ratings, we know that from polling in this race, and we know that from polling in GA-06. It's absurd to act as if a loss actually matters in any way because it really doesn't. It also makes no sense to act like the sky is falling because a deep red seat stayed red, but you're not going to get anywhere insisting that people should be happy to lose.
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May 26, 2017 04:27
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I can't believe all of the reporters are going to be repeatedly punched tomorrow
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May 26, 2017 04:27
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It's over. Montana is bad, this country is bad, time to drink.
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I wonder if Gianforte could have actually shot Jacobs in the middle of Fifth Avenue and still got elected.
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skylined! posted:I am sober enough to confirm that this is a great idea Too drunk to understand sarcasm, and am therefore taking this as legitimate encouragement.
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May 26, 2017 04:28
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Ein Sexmonster posted:Nothing is 'sure'. But ignoring the data because you're obsessed with winning now is stupid. The data is exactly what's frightening, actually.
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May 26, 2017 04:28
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Ein Sexmonster posted:Gubneratorial elections are often more about the candidate than the party. There's lots of 'crossover' candidates across the nation. Which is actually pretty rational. Most House members are basically rubber-stamps for party leadership large percent of the time, but governors get to do what they want. (And Senators tend to be somewhat in between).
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:A lot of people saying it's a good sign it was a close race and shows good signs for other races, but it was a race against a guy who violently assaulted a reporter the day before election day, do you really think future races are going to be handed such a freebie the day before the election? 2/3rds of the votes were submitted before the assault and that's probably much of what we already know about the results.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Politicians and voters will still see this as validation of the chokeslam, though. Some will, admittedly. We call those Trump voters.
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Josh Lyman posted:time to drink. You are late, that was about an hour ago when early returns sucked
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