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tithin posted:Allegedly You beat my edit! 
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David Cameron hosed a dead pig. e: Allegedly.
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May 26, 2017 02:23
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Do you think David Cameron's alleged copulation with a putrid porcine carcass affect the vote for Brexit?
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May 26, 2017 02:41
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Do you think David Cameron's alleged copulation with a putrid porcine carcass affect the vote for Brexit? I do not believe it has had any effect
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May 26, 2017 02:50
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In today's Patriarchal society, would May pegging a boar have a positive or negative effect on the polls?
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May 26, 2017 02:58
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staberind posted:In today's Patriarchal society, would May pegging a boar have a positive or negative effect on the polls? I prefer to think she'd rather crush kittens beneath her heels, although "Theresa May pegged a Wild Boar" (allegedly) does have a nice poetry to it.
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May 26, 2017 03:03
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I see her more as "bite the head off of pigeons" type but indeed.
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May 26, 2017 03:17
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never forget
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May 26, 2017 03:30
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Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn
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May 26, 2017 07:05
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Kurtofan posted:Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn would be glorious but not gonna happen
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May 26, 2017 07:12
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Kurtofan posted:Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn Omg, JC, A Bomb! Quotey posted:never forget Guy on the right : nonplussed, Guy on left : checkiddout
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May 26, 2017 07:14
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Prince John posted:I'm a bit confused about the maths on this one. Pretty standard political numbers-mangling. Say the budget for a thing is a billion pounds, and inflation is two percent. You have a couple of options: Raise the budget by 1 percent. Don't mention percentages, say instead "We're putting in an extra 10 million pounds a year!" or even "We're putting in an extra 50 million pounds!" by pledging to raise the budget every year. Those are big numbers and sound very impressive.You can even say "We're spending more money on <thing> than ever before" and it'll probably be true because that's the nature of inflation. Raise the budget by 2 percent. Use the tricks above and also blithely mention it's going up by inflation. Depending on the exact numbers you can even truthfully say "this is the largest budget increase in the history of <thing>" and make comparisons with how much the other party raised the budget by when they were in power. Raise the budget by 3 percent. Then you can say "We're raising the budget by 10 million pounds a year in real terms!" and it's actually accurate if the real terms are "inflation". However if the usage of the thing is going up by 4% or you're actually asking the thing to do more things with that money by cutting elsewhere, the actual budget is dropping by 1% and when the thing begins to fail you can make stern speeches about how the public sector is inefficient and you need to hand it over to the private sector. All of these scenarios should sound plenty familiar after the last 7 years.
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May 26, 2017 07:18
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@Bye Felicia.
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May 26, 2017 07:36
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Woke up this morning and checked the main BBC headline. I'm pleased that Corbyn is highlighting cuts on police and A&E, but I'm not sure it's the best time to be proposing a change in foreign policy, and nuances. The nuance could be lost and he could come off looking as weak on an area he is already seen as weak on. I agree with him on fewer wars abroad etc., but his timing and messaging on this could be better - he needs to play to his strengths in the time remaining.
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May 26, 2017 08:10
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Milotic posted:Woke up this morning and checked the main BBC headline. I'm pleased that Corbyn is highlighting cuts on police and A&E, but I'm not sure it's the best time to be proposing a change in foreign policy, and nuances. The nuance could be lost and he could come off looking as weak on an area he is already seen as weak on. Yeah, play up the bits people are actually interested in, save the nuance for when you're in power.
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May 26, 2017 08:15
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Tbf they should just start playing that teresa may interview for 5 minute as a party political broadcast.
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May 26, 2017 08:17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FClwh6hmRTE
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May 26, 2017 08:36
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With the speech Corbyn is meant to be making today I think we will see the gain in the polls melting away. The speech overall reads fine but this section is going to go down like a lead balloon. "That assessment in no way reduces the guilt of those who attack our children. Those terrorists will forever be reviled and held to account for their actions. But an informed understanding of the causes of terrorism is an essential part of an effective response that will protect the security of our people that fights rather than fuels terrorism. We must be brave enough to admit the ‘war on terror’ is simply not working. We need a smarter way to reduce the threat from countries that nurture terrorists and generate terrorism." The British public do not seem open to taking a nuanced position on terrorism at the moment. Labour should have just let UKIP jump up and down about police cuts, whilst pointing at their own policy to increase police numbers by 10,000. deletebeepbeepbeep fucked around with this message at 08:48 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 26, 2017 08:44
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I think a lot of commentators will say that 'This is bad for Corbyn' but the public actually dislike sending troops into conflicts without clear aims or goals, and the media have effectively masked our role in current ME conflicts. If Labour hammer home 'why the gently caress are we at war with Yemen and why won't Theresa May tell you about it? it'll poll well.
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May 26, 2017 08:52
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Maybe mention that the tory's still hate kids since thatcher, first school milk, now school dinners, as y'know, nourishment is not so important for poors.
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May 26, 2017 09:00
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Let the tories keep shooting themselves in the foot, and may their more overt racists find a more suitable political demagogue within ukip. Hope is a lie, but also right now (within strictly defined boundaries, mind) pessimism and despair are taking a significant kicking.
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May 26, 2017 09:16
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Corbyn's speech focusing on anything but the police cuts is an extremely risky strategy, but at least The Sun's headline seems to be "Jeremy Corbyn sparks outrage by claiming Britain’s war on terror is to blame for Manchester Arena terror attack", which I think could read better among the UK public than they think.
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May 26, 2017 09:24
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People are jaded as gently caress by the 'war on terror' since it clearly isn't working, so it'll be interesting to see how they respond. Obviously the swivel-eyed crowd aren't going to accept anything except turning the middle east to glass, so some amount of outrage is unavoidable.
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May 26, 2017 09:31
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corbyn should do a speech where he just lists all of the times he's been proven right on interventions imo
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May 26, 2017 09:32
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-a7756421.html Hope is a lie.
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May 26, 2017 09:33
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Milotic posted:Woke up this morning and checked the main BBC headline. I'm pleased that Corbyn is highlighting cuts on police and A&E, but I'm not sure it's the best time to be proposing a change in foreign policy, and nuances. The nuance could be lost and he could come off looking as weak on an area he is already seen as weak on. We all know that regardless of this attack in Manchester that this change of foreign policy direction would happen if Corbyn & Labour win right? Nah, maybe it's not great politics but gently caress, it needs to be said even if people refuse to hear. Our foreign policy for centuries has consequences! Somehow this is a controversial statement? PS even with the lead closing over the past week of polls, Labour are still a long way short of actually winning this so let's not kid ourselves. Until potential Tory voters start falling away it's going to be a huge struggle even with Labour gaining a bigger percentage than they got in 2005.
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May 26, 2017 09:34
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So you reckon Corbyn will still be made to resign even if he gains seats?
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May 26, 2017 09:42
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:So you reckon Corbyn will still be made to resign even if he gains seats? what's the track record on the labour right getting corbyn to resign?
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May 26, 2017 09:44
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forkboy84 posted:We all know that regardless of this attack in Manchester that this change of foreign policy direction would happen if Corbyn & Labour win right? I'm expecting a Tory majority, but I don't want it to be a large one, and I have an interest in Corbyn staying on so as to continue to present a left wing opposition. I agree with deletebeepbeepbeep - now is not the time for nuance.
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May 26, 2017 09:50
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:So you reckon Corbyn will still be made to resign even if he gains seats? Aint no one can make Corbyn resign, and they aint got no one who can legitimately challenge him for leadership I don't believe he'll ever stand down.
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May 26, 2017 09:51
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labour will be fine with whatever they say in the speech because they're setting and controlling the narrative in this election.
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May 26, 2017 09:53
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:So you reckon Corbyn will still be made to resign even if he gains seats? I reckon the odds are good that parts of the PLP will try to make corbyn resign if he loving wins it
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May 26, 2017 09:57
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Milotic posted:Woke up this morning and checked the main BBC headline. I'm pleased that Corbyn is highlighting cuts on police and A&E, but I'm not sure it's the best time to be proposing a change in foreign policy, and nuances. The nuance could be lost and he could come off looking as weak on an area he is already seen as weak on. Total Meatlove posted:I think a lot of commentators will say that 'This is bad for Corbyn' but the public actually dislike sending troops into conflicts without clear aims or goals, and the media have effectively masked our role in current ME conflicts. If Labour hammer home 'why the gently caress are we at war with Yemen and why won't Theresa May tell you about it? it'll poll well.
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May 26, 2017 09:59
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staberind posted:@Bye Felicia. flip cloth diapers
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May 26, 2017 10:03
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May 26, 2017 10:05
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DesperateDan posted:I reckon the odds are good that parts of the PLP will try to make corbyn resign if he loving wins it Well yeah, it's constantly shifting. When it looked like Labour would get a hiding, they say he should go if he leads Labour to a massive loss. When it looked like they'll exceed the vote share of the last election, that isn't a yardstick and Labour should be aiming to improve on that. Now it looks like Labour will improve on that the issue will suddenly become that Labour should be winning most seats and if that seems likely that they should be winning a majority and if that ever seems likely that they should be winning a large one. Nothing will ever be good enough to shut up the Labour right.
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May 26, 2017 10:06
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Excellent.
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May 26, 2017 10:09
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What prompted this? The "final solution" tweet?
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May 26, 2017 10:14
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:With the speech Corbyn is meant to be making today I think we will see the gain in the polls melting away. No they shouldn't. There are still behind and probably by a distance. They need to take risks. Time will tell re. the line above but I don't think the UK public has any particular love for the war on terror. The first two things that come to mind when I hear that phrase are Blair and America. No-one wants to be associated with either at the moment.
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Friday is starting well.
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