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The Narrator
Aug 11, 2011

bernie would have won

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

So, there's horses in CK2, Bears in EU4, are there any other weird things you can do in the other games?

Wojtek in HoI4.

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algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Also free market economics in Vicky 2

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

algebra testes posted:

Also free market economics in Vicky 2

haha

Kuiperdolin
Sep 5, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Anyone tried that Steel Division game yet?

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Kuiperdolin posted:

Anyone tried that Steel Division game yet?

Yeah it's good fun. It's a completely different kind of game to Paradox grand strategies though. It's a real time tactics game.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Enjoy posted:

Yeah it's good fun. It's a completely different kind of game to Paradox grand strategies though. It's a real time tactics game.

What's its scope? I think technically every strategy game where you don't build a base counts as tactics, so it could be anything from Sudden Strike size to War in the East size.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

GrossMurpel posted:

What's its scope? I think technically every strategy game where you don't build a base counts as tactics, so it could be anything from Sudden Strike size to War in the East size.

Well, it's called Steel Division: Normandy '44, so I think that should tip you off on the scope :)

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

COOL CORN posted:

Well, it's called Steel Division: Normandy '44, so I think that should tip you off on the scope :)

Could still be the Normandy campaign broken up into missions where you control 5 units :v:

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Enjoy posted:

Yeah it's good fun. It's a completely different kind of game to Paradox grand strategies though. It's a real time tactics game.

I was looking at this briefly, and apparently not only can you not pause to issue orders, you can't even pause at all, even with the ESC/menu button. In a single-player game.

:lol: God, I hate that poo poo. No buy for me.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
That's because it's not really a single player game.

also there's a deployment phase before you start, where you place your first units and can issue some orders ahead of time.

Robhol
Oct 9, 2012
You can also reduce the game to "bullet time" speed in single player, which is so slow it may as well be a pause for most purposes.

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Robhol posted:

You can also reduce the game to "bullet time" speed in single player, which is so slow it may as well be a pause for most purposes.

It's more the sense that I can't pause the game to walk away/take a phone call/deal with real-life family poo poo. It just irritates me to no end. Same reason I couldn't get into Path of Exile.

Robhol
Oct 9, 2012
Yeah that's fair enough then.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009
No that's a pretty dumb reason to dislike a game, if something important is happening in real life you should just quit the game

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Enjoy posted:

No that's a pretty dumb reason to dislike a game, if something important is happening in real life you should just quit the game
Dark Souls could get away with it because it quit instantly and the online part of it was a cool thing

this game has literally zero of those excuses. its garbage grog game design of the sort that I woulda thought Paradox was over

feller
Jul 5, 2006


Enjoy posted:

No that's a pretty dumb reason to dislike a game, if something important is happening in real life you should just quit the game

Nah

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
That's a sort of valid reason but you shouldn't be getting it for the singleplayer, it's a multiplayer game with some slapped on campaigns.

I agree it's kinda weird if they took the pause out entirely though (I haven't noticed personally), that did used to be an option in the older titles.

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Dark Souls could get away with it because it quit instantly and the online part of it was a cool thing

this game has literally zero of those excuses. its garbage grog game design of the sort that I woulda thought Paradox was over

the heck


edit: the hell are you guys on about, I just checked in game and escape makes it pause just fine.

Koramei fucked around with this message at 17:37 on May 26, 2017

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Koramei posted:

That's a sort of valid reason but you shouldn't be getting it for the singleplayer, it's a multiplayer game with some slapped on campaigns.

I agree it's kinda weird if they took the pause out entirely though (I haven't noticed personally), that did used to be an option in the older titles.


the heck


edit: the hell are you guys on about, I just checked in game and escape makes it pause just fine.
Welp, then I was speakin' from ignorance, my bad

Didn't have either horses or bears so I didn't see any point in getting it

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Koramei posted:



the heck

edit: the hell are you guys on about, I just checked in game and escape makes it pause just fine.

Oh, interesting. Not what I'd read on some steam forums thread where a dev was commenting.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
Hm, maybe they added it in after that thread then, if a dev was reading it. It is only by using escape, the time controls don't give you a pause option they used to in the older titles, which is a little odd.

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Welp, then I was speakin' from ignorance, my bad

Didn't have either horses or bears so I didn't see any point in getting it

It's basically just an RTS. on the more groggy end of the spectrum for those but I'd say it fits in pretty well with Paradox games.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
They didn't want you to pause the game so you could look over the battlefield to see what was going on and issue orders, so instead all you can do is slow it way down to give you more time to react. I guess I can see where they were going witht this but it's still a very strange design choice.

Opening the menu stops the game but you can't do anything else.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

So, there's horses in CK2, Bears in EU4, are there any other weird things you can do in the other games?

You can play as a race of polar bears in vicky2.

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

Enjoy posted:

No that's a pretty dumb reason to dislike a game, if something important is happening in real life you should just quit the game

If something important is happening in real life you should just ignore it to keep gaming.

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010
or quit life (and keep playing in heaven :angel: )

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Koramei posted:

Hm, maybe they added it in after that thread then, if a dev was reading it. It is only by using escape, the time controls don't give you a pause option they used to in the older titles, which is a little odd.


It's basically just an RTS. on the more groggy end of the spectrum for those but I'd say it fits in pretty well with Paradox games.

There was a quote from the dev along the lines that the 'AI didn't like being paused'. :iiam:

Maybe I'll just learn to play Graviteam Mius Front instead... bought it a while back and bounced off the UI.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Fintilgin posted:

I was looking at this briefly, and apparently not only can you not pause to issue orders, you can't even pause at all, even with the ESC/menu button. In a single-player game.

:lol: God, I hate that poo poo. No buy for me.

git gud

James The 1st
Feb 23, 2013

Kuiperdolin posted:

Anyone tried that Steel Division game yet?
I don't know much about it, but didn't the developer make the Wargame series, like Wargame Airland battle?

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

James The 1st posted:

I don't know much about it, but didn't the developer make the Wargame series, like Wargame Airland battle?

Yes

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

It was super-fun to play at pdxcon, and I swear I'll throw money at it after a paycheck or two.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
It's a pretty good game and I'm sure if I weren't terrible at it I'd enjoy it even more. The dynamic front system is actually a really neat way of making sure your tunnel vision doesn't gently caress you too much. Would recommend if you're looking for a tactics game.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
My committed group of Wargame friends say it's the best Wargame they've made. Like, from the Series Wargame, not Wargame full stop beacuse *snort* it's clearly no Campaign for North Africa...

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak
It is great fun, but if you're used to the glacial pace of paradox grand strategy you'll have a stroke.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
Yeah Wargame/Normandy isn't as fast paced as say, competitive Starcraft, but it's still a lot more micro-intensive than a Paradox grand strategy game.

It's a lot easier to do team matches since 2v2 or 3v3 allow you to pick one part of the map and focus your forces there rather than trying to keep an eye on everything at once.

Tahirovic
Feb 25, 2009
Fun Shoe
How toxic is the online crowd so far, might want to try this with a friend but we're bad.

the pole or the dole
May 21, 2009

Tahirovic posted:

How toxic is the online crowd so far, might want to try this with a friend but we're bad.

I feel that most people have been nice to each other so far, some have gotten a bit grumpy about off-map artillery destroying all their stuff but I have not seen any racial slurs or stuff like that. Maybe because the game is still new and everyone still sucks.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
Like most online games involving the Nazis the worst people are wehraboos complaining about their Königstigers and Jagdpanzers not being made of Hanzo Reichsland steel folded over 1000 times. Not particularly toxic passed being called poo poo like xXxDeu7⚡chland_Uber⚡oldatxXx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyWIbZD7vg

WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 12:55 on May 30, 2017

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak
The goons are friendly and the pubbies civil, but like previous wargame franchise titles and any other ww2 game, the nazis you are fighting are often actually for real Nazis. There is a general chat in game for some reason that is equal parts horrifying and comedy gold.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Splode posted:

The goons are friendly and the pubbies civil, but like previous wargame franchise titles and any other ww2 game, the nazis you are fighting are often actually for real Nazis. There is a general chat in game for some reason that is equal parts horrifying and comedy gold.

my favorite memory of Wargame chat was when I got out of a game and some dude was posting a gay porn version of black hawk down line by line

A Renaissance Nerd
Mar 29, 2010
There's also a thread for Steel Division. Can confirm goons are welcoming to new folks.

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StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Agean90 posted:

my favorite memory of Wargame chat was when I got out of a game and some dude was posting a gay porn version of black hawk down line by line

This is legend and I wish someone had a saved copy

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