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ThePariah posted:Roman would've carried Mabel to a four-star match. That's a lot of dead weight
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In a pretty surprising development, less than a third of Roman's 4* or better matches are Shield trios.
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May 26, 2017 16:53
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Then the standards for four-star matches has gone down in recent years. There, I said it.
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CobiWann posted:Then the standards for four-star matches has gone down in recent years.  & 
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The standards are almost certainly higher today, it's just that there's so much more good work in the US compared to the 90s that people became accustomed to it. I sometimes rewatch Razor/HBK and wonder if it'd crack **** today.
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FWIW there are very few matches from the 90s rated ****+ that I think would get like, "adjusted down" today, Mankind/HBK is still ****+, ditto Austin/Hart (SS 96 and Mania) and most Rey matches (though I still think the GAB match with Malenko was like, ***1/2, like, c'mon, don't debut a high flier with a mat match)
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May 26, 2017 17:10
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If you count the Dean vs Seth vs Roman triple threat as a Shield Match, the Shield as a trio has had as many 4*+ matches as Owen Hart, at seven.
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May 26, 2017 17:17
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Were there even monthly PPVs back then anyway?
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cronox2 posted:Were there even monthly PPVs back then anyway? There were from 1995-1997.
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I'm not saying its a fair comparison or anything its just Owen indexes in my brain as "always has great match", as does the Shield trio, and the Bret vs Roman comparison made me interested to look it up
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May 26, 2017 17:26
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The last good match was Cena-Bryan at SS. Then HHH hosed it all up.
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The first KO vs Cena match where KO won clean as a whistle was good. So was Cena vs AJ at Summerslam. Basically John Cena is probably the only good wrestler (??)
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projecthalaxy posted:I'm not saying its a fair comparison or anything its just Owen indexes in my brain as "always has great match", as does the Shield trio, and the Bret vs Roman comparison made me interested to look it up Owen wasn't a main card guy for most of his career so he had far fewer opportunities to have great matches.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I have an important scoop. why is Dave such a mark for Roman?
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Roman's probably a source, like Dwayne.
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May 26, 2017 17:37
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The point is this: John Cena is really good and Big Dave Meltzer might be a big dumb idiot. Or maybe he is also really good?
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I miss John Cena so much.
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WWE did you know: according to the best records available, John Cena has had exactly one million 4+ star rated matches. Yes, it is exactly one million.
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May 26, 2017 17:43
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That's a lot, but that makes sense because John Cena is really good.
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John Cena is overrated
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Cena-Miz feud was trash, Miz did all the work and i hope Nikki doesnt come back ever again.
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DoctorGonzo posted:Cena-Miz feud was trash, Miz did all the work Yes, that was the point. It wasn't a mutual feud, John Cena shouldn't be wasting a thought on the Miz. It was a classic lower card guy talking himself into a match with a top guy.
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Jenkem Delivery posted:John Cena is overrated That makes no sense. It's like calling the sun overrated. The thing that gives us life.
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May 26, 2017 18:00
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I wonder what other cool 2006 edgelord opinions people who dont like john cena have
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john cena sucks
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DoctorGonzo posted:Cena-Miz feud was trash, Miz did all the work and i hope Nikki doesnt come back ever again. Cena had the best promo in the feud.
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May 26, 2017 18:09
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John Cena owns.
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i did it to john cena like this. *does hip thrusts for 25 minutes before posting this* heh Not for real though.
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May 26, 2017 18:25
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Call me when Cena carries Jinder to a **** match 
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Eli Wiggum posted:Call me when Cena carries Jinder to a **** match if fed have cena jinder not happen
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DoctorGonzo posted:Cena-Miz feud was trash, Miz did all the work and i hope Nikki doesnt come back ever again. Worst part is Maryse got nothing in the match.
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May 26, 2017 18:38
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Didn't Cena have the only good Khali match?
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Sadly Miz really hasn't recovered from getting dunked at WM.
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Caesarian Sectarian posted:Sadly Miz really hasn't recovered from getting dunked at WM. He'd have easily done a better Nakamura match than Dolph.
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projecthalaxy posted:if fed have cena Missed an opportunity for Cena to learn hindi; get a spray tan and cover his bald spot with a turban.
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Evil Badman posted:Worst part is Maryse got nothing in the match. Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
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Admiral_Cola posted:Missed an opportunity for Cena to learn hindi; get a spray tan and cover his bald spot with a turban. whatever happened to darren young
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May 26, 2017 19:02
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I choose to believe the in ring proposal was the real one because it's the most John cena thing there is
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projecthalaxy posted:if fed have cena Fed already had Cena
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Didn't Cena have the only good Khali match?
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