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Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Another Person posted:

neil butchered may too, remember

basically destroyed her manifesto credibility

He made May look like an idiot but there were several times when he could easily have stuck the boot in more but decided not to. Corbyn is getting no such leniency.

Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 19:44 on May 26, 2017

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jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Corbyn did well there. None of his answers were particularly memorable, but the challenge in these interviews is to appear cool under hostile questioning and avoid saying anything damaging, and I think he managed it better than May.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Uh...? "Corbyn would keep doing what we're doing" is a very weird line of argument:

https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/868171259808550915

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


PriorMarcus posted:

I love Corbyn. He's my favourite political leader in years but he's insistence on giving nuanced answers and trying to having a thoughtful discussion doesn't belong on an Andrew Neill BBC One show. He needs to have a mode that is more direct and fierce.

Giving nuanced answers radically decreases your chances of saying something stupid that can be turned into a gotcha soundbite. Add that to the fact that you've got to be pretty hardcore into politics to spend half an hour on a Friday night to watch some twat interview a politician twat & I'm not sure there's actually a huge amount of ground to be gained, just a chance to gently caress up.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Twitter's finest minds are on the case of Islamic Terror:

https://twitter.com/KGHohenstauffen/status/868057677062078464

Same account from later on https://twitter.com/KGHohenstauffen/status/868093178930487297

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

George 'I saw Corbyn in a pub talking about how he voted Leave' Eaton even seems to think Corbyn did fairly well:

https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/868172223760265216

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Well I mean the guy is a legit loving neo nazi:

https://twitter.com/KGHohenstauffen/status/867839931736928256

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

Julio Cruz posted:

He made May look like an idiot but there were several times when he could easily have stuck the boot in more but decided not to. Corbyn is getting no such lenience.

i think may came out of these interviews looking worse even if her questions were softer

corbyn looked controlled, may looked defeated. the mask cracked with may. he kept his cool in an incredible manner.

of course, how much that matters is unknown yet because how it gets reported will set the narrative for how the interview went, because even though it is on the BBC in prime time, many people won't have seen this interview and will instead read or hear about it tomorrow.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Lol, is he an ex-montonero or an ex-milico both are bad?

He's none though, no one who lived through that period of argentine history would use the stupid term "dirty war" to refer to the last dictatorship. It's not a term anyone uses except maybe the worst kind of ex-military garbage or Videla-worshipper internet tough guys (there are quite a few of those unfortunately and their rallying cry is "we were better off under the dictatorship").

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

TheRat posted:

George 'I saw Corbyn in a pub talking about how he voted Leave' Eaton even seems to think Corbyn did fairly well:

https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/868172223760265216

Isn't he a journalist?

And he doesn't know what the past tense form of "bear" is?

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Corbyn needs to increase the memes and make the memes creamy

Corbyn would have won!

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



Is a creamy meme the opposite of a spicy meme?

These are the hard hitting questions I want Jeremy Corbyn to answer.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Firos posted:

Is a creamy meme the opposite of a spicy meme?

These are the hard hitting questions I want Jeremy Corbyn to answer.

A bland meme.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

British memes for British people.

thehappyprince
Apr 4, 2006

Alastair Cock


if you fall for this you're one of the dumbest people in the world, sorry

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

One thing reinforced by the Andrew Neil interview is that the main lines of attack on Corbyn are still the IRA, Trident and what other Labour MPs have said about him. The manifesto and the campaign so far have given his opponents nothing to criticise.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
So Neil said ISIS existed before the Iraq war. Now everything I look up seems to suggest that is completely wrong. Was he just mistaken?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Mega Comrade posted:

So Neil said ISIS existed before the Iraq war. Now everything I look up seems to suggest that is completely wrong. Was he just mistaken?

I would assume it started as a successor or splinter from some other organization but I'm pretty sure it wasn't actively at war with a shitload of places before the iraq war.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Apparently while Corbyn was being interviewed Fallon was getting royally owned by Guru-Murthy on Channel 4.

He gave him a quote about foreign intervention that Fallon thought was from Corbyn, when it was actually from Boris Johnson. Trying to find a clip...

e:
https://twitter.com/coinflipppperr/status/868179564597530624

jabby fucked around with this message at 20:07 on May 26, 2017

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

Firos posted:

Is a creamy meme the opposite of a spicy meme?

These are the hard hitting questions I want Jeremy Corbyn to answer.

If you combine creamy memes and spicy memes what daring synthesis shall it be called?

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Regarde Aduck posted:

Can they not keep quiet until the election is over? loving idiots.

Although I do think ISIS are a completely different situation to all the other terrorist factions. ISIS were made by western foreign policy, but I think it is a bolted horse situation. They are basically a violent death cult and I don't think leaving the middle east will actually stop them pursuing terrorism. We've created a real monster and I don't know how we fix it. I don't think anyone has the answer beyond creating a super weapon that can kill all the ISIS members in one go. Which will also include women and children.

I think Corbyn and the hawks both think of ISIS as something like Alqaeda who CAN be reasoned with, or in terms of the hawks, have rational goals that can be prevented by the use of force. They're really not.

A while back so sorry if this has been addressed, but ISIS is absolutely hosed. They're in their death throes now. There's absolutely no need to reason with them, because they're a spent force. Turns out arming secular socialists and protecting them against our own allies in the region was the answer to defeating ISIS.

thehappyprince
Apr 4, 2006

Alastair Cock

biji ypg

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

jabby posted:

Apparently while Corbyn was being interviewed Fallon was getting royally owned by Guru-Murthy on Channel 4.

He gave him a quote about foreign intervention that Fallon thought was from Corbyn, when it was actually from Boris Johnson. Trying to find a clip...

e:
https://twitter.com/coinflipppperr/status/868179564597530624

Fukken lol. You can practically see when he goes into full bullshit mode and starts scrambling for excuses.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

A while back so sorry if this has been addressed, but ISIS is absolutely hosed. They're in their death throes now. There's absolutely no need to reason with them, because they're a spent force. Turns out arming secular socialists and protecting them against our own allies in the region was the answer to defeating ISIS.

Can the Kurds have a loving country yet

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

jabby posted:

Apparently while Corbyn was being interviewed Fallon was getting royally owned by Guru-Murthy on Channel 4.

He gave him a quote about foreign intervention that Fallon thought was from Corbyn, when it was actually from Boris Johnson. Trying to find a clip...

e:
https://twitter.com/coinflipppperr/status/868179564597530624

wooooooooooooow

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

jabby posted:

Apparently while Corbyn was being interviewed Fallon was getting royally owned by Guru-Murthy on Channel 4.

He gave him a quote about foreign intervention that Fallon thought was from Corbyn, when it was actually from Boris Johnson. Trying to find a clip...

e:
https://twitter.com/coinflipppperr/status/868179564597530624

:lol:

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Mister Adequate posted:

Can the Kurds have a loving country yet

lol no. They're going to get stabbed in the back so hard by the US. Probably end up as an autonomous region under Assad at best.

Random Integer
Oct 7, 2010

Mega Comrade posted:

So Neil said ISIS existed before the Iraq war. Now everything I look up seems to suggest that is completely wrong. Was he just mistaken?

ISIS was formed in 2006 during the Iraqi insurgency. It was formed from a number of pre-existing groups and you could argue that some of those existed, in one form or another, prior to the invasion of Iraq but ISIS itself is unquestionably a product of the Iraq war.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/868149759458070530




#limdemfightback

TheRat fucked around with this message at 20:22 on May 26, 2017

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

I was going to say "How'd they jump to 8 points", but, christ, that's the sun isn't it?

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

If you combine creamy memes and spicy memes what daring synthesis shall it be called?

Cheeky meemah massala

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Cerebral Bore posted:

Fukken lol. You can practically see when he goes into full bullshit mode and starts scrambling for excuses.

"I do not agree with that at all... "
"Boris Johnson said it."
"... Then you'll actually find he was agreeing with me."
"No he wasn't."
"I DON'T HAVE THE QUOTE IN FRONT OF ME."

thehappyprince
Apr 4, 2006

Alastair Cock

labour polling 36% of sun readers is actually positive tbh

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

jabby posted:

"I do not agree with that at all... "
"Boris Johnson said it."
"... Then you'll actually find he was agreeing with me."
"No he wasn't."
"I DON'T HAVE THE QUOTE IN FRONT OF ME."

I also like that he just blustered straight through the first reveal that it was actually Bozza who was quoted.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


No it's a poll commissioned by the Sun, not of Sun readers. We're still 8 points behind and likely to lose seats.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


thehappyprince posted:

labour polling 36% of sun readers is actually positive tbh

That's not how they do polls

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Firos posted:

loving UKIP is even more agree than disagree :psyduck:

Nuttall also was the only party leader to come out and say he agreed with Corbyn. Kippers tend isolationist.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Baron Corbyn posted:

Nuttall also was the only party leader to come out and say he agreed with Corbyn. Kippers tend isolationist.

Greens did too. Pretty weird to get agreement between those parties, but there you go.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Most right wingers I've come in contact with in my life have been isolationist in some respect. It's liberals you have to watch out for. Whatever animus the hard right has towards the filthy foreigns is generally confined to those within our borders, but liberals want to bomb democracy into them wherever they are in the world.

BillBear
Mar 13, 2013

Ask me about running my country straight into the ground every time I play EU4 multiplayer.

Firos posted:

loving UKIP is even more agree than disagree :psyduck:

The far right these days tend to be isolationists. One of Trump's big talking points was not putting his dick in the ME (lol look how that turned out)

Also from I've seen, they REALLY hate neo cons.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That isolationism is quite old, and part of the reason America was so slow to join the second world war.

I guess modern politics has somewhat skewed the perspective a bit if it seems surprising.

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