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CommieGIR posted:Or standard Tea Partier/Trumpite. Lots of Trumpites believe the hype about Muslims being illegals. The correlation between untreated schizophrenia and random violence is much stronger than the correlation between being a Trumpist/Tea Partier and random violence.
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Stellar Curiosity posted:Meanwhile, Barry goes to Germany, and the very bad Germans act accordingly A quick google suggests Obama drew ~70k in Germany and Trump drew ~200k on Inauguration
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Accretionist posted:A quick google suggests Obama drew ~70k in Germany and Trump drew ~200k on Inauguration Obama is a man who actually could lead an army across the Potomac and take over government, and most people would be okay with it
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Suicide Watch posted:Obama is a man who actually could lead an army across the Potomac and take over government, and most people would be okay with it OPSEC!
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May 27, 2017 07:23
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Suicide Watch posted:Obama is a man who actually could lead an army across the Potomac and take over government, and most people would be okay with it While I was constantly frustrated with his being broadly center-right, I will say this: He was pretty much the perfect center-right president.
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May 27, 2017 07:24
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Kawasaki Nun posted:What's your point? You go back 80ish years in Japanese politics and they were beheading captured American soldiers. I don't see them returning to that. 50 years ago people were marching for equal rights in the south. Around the same time a sitting president decided to rescind the presidency rather than face impeachment. Perhaps, instead of thinking of our current detente as a natural evolution, you should consider it an anomaly, and that our political struggles being coupled with physical violence is actually the normal state of affairs. Like peace in Europe, it's worth working towards, but it isn't how things have been for most of history, or are guaranteed to be in the future. Hand wringing about how our democracy can exist when our elected officials are committing violence is odd, since that's how we rolled for a few hundred years.
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May 27, 2017 07:30
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Accretionist posted:While I was constantly frustrated with his being broadly center-right, I will say this: He was pretty much the perfect center-right president. This country by and large hews conservative, it is a hilarious pipedream that an avowed socialist would win or even seriously contest the presidential election. Obama was about as liberal as a president can get and still be acceptable to the masses. Besides which he had a huge abundance of charisma which definitely helped. Bernie had neither of those, he was far to the left of Obama, and he had the charisma of a piece of toast.
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Brezhen....Carters guy died. Sorry it's Friday and I'm not trying to spell his name. Zbigniew Brzeninski and his flunky William Odom once saved us from nuclear winter when the Ruskies hosed up a drill and signaled a 2,220 missile launch. He was a big rear end deal in the national security and foreign relations communities. Edit: And his name is unpronounceable in the english language.
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This country skewed right during the Nixon-Bush era but it skewed left before that, and I think we're going back to the left. Single payer is polling well, gay marriage went from fringe pipe dream to something conservatives and centrists are busily pretending they were always for, weed getting normalized, etc.
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Best Friends posted:This country skewed right during the Nixon-Bush era but it skewed left before that, and I think we're going back to the left. Single payer is polling well, gay marriage went from fringe pipe dream to something conservatives and centrists are busily pretending they were always for, weed getting normalized, etc. In the time before Nixon, (pre 1969,) being black was a de facto crime in large parts of the United States, and being gay was an actual crime, and everyone south of the Mason-Dixon was a pro-union Democrat, so I'm not really sure that 2017 ideas of "liberal" and "conservative" map to even the recent past.
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orange juche posted:This country by and large hews conservative, it is a hilarious pipedream that an avowed socialist would win or even seriously contest the presidential election. Obama was about as liberal as a president can get and still be acceptable to the masses. Besides which he had a huge abundance of charisma which definitely helped. Bernie had neither of those, he was far to the left of Obama, and he had the charisma of a piece of toast. He showed up late and unprepared with one-note speeches and pulled 40% against Clinton If you were right, he would've pulled 5% and you wouldn't be pretending it was a fair fight and some kind of referendum of New Deal-type populism Edit: Campaign Obama was to President Obama's left, BTW
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Accretionist posted:He showed up late and unprepared with one-note speeches and pulled 40% against Clinton The thing is, if he had gone up against obama in that, he WOULD have pulled max 5% of the vote (literally only the FULL SOCIALISM NOW/Communist Party USA types). The only reason he polled as high as he did was how laughably out of touch Hillary was with the democratic base. Obama had his finger firmly on the pulse of the democratic party and he also knew how to sell it to swing voters, which is something neither bernie or hillary had. orange juche fucked around with this message at 09:09 on May 27, 2017 |
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We have a thread for this you shits
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All im saying is bernie was never a serious contender and the chaos and bullshit he caused in the democratic party definitely wound up causing a not insignificant amount of people in key swing states to vote for dumbass writein poo poo like a loving dead gorilla, or not vote at all, which is how we got the orange poo poo goblin and his merry band. Hillary was a bad candidate, theres no way around that, but she was a fuckload better than who is sitting in the white house now.
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orange juche posted:All im saying is bernie was never a serious contender and the chaos and bullshit he caused in the democratic party definitely wound up causing a not insignificant amount of people in key swing states to vote for dumbass writein poo poo like a loving dead gorilla, or not vote at all, which is how we got the orange poo poo goblin and his merry band. oh hey this hasn't been said 4000000000 times since november
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DR are you seriously going 2 for 2 on jumping out in front of the last two violent incidents to conduct a drat psychiatric evaluation based off a news article. "Hmm yes according to my expertise this is a guaranteed case of schizophrenia and no way is it politically or racially motivated". Lmao
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Accretionist posted:While I was constantly frustrated with his being broadly center-right, I will say this: He was pretty much the perfect center-right president. He was not broadly Center right. His administration wasn't as far left as some wanted, and his signature healthcare reform was a big ole HJ to the insurance industry, but there was nothing right about he rest. He drew down two wars, had an extremely liberal DoJ, embraces climate change, etc etc. gently caress I miss him being in charge. gently caress you America.
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Also his handling of finance, mass deportations, drone war, state surveillance and some other poo poo I'm forgetting. Edit: Whistleblowers. They prosecuted the poo poo out of whistleblowers. Shutting down his grassroots networks right after winning. Accretionist fucked around with this message at 11:29 on May 27, 2017 |
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You know, as a filthy optimistic euro still on high after my own country not voting in a fascist Russian stooge after all... I got to wonder. In 10-15 years from now, when sanity has returned and you guys have restored your collective dignity the hard way with public hearings and public hangings... will these loving maga caps be regarded the same way as the klan hoods?
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Hot Karl Marx posted:o7o7o7 stay safe hedgehogger
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Accretionist posted:Also his handling of finance, mass deportations, drone war, state surveillance and some other poo poo I'm forgetting. The DREAM act was extremely the opposite of a conservative policy, as was creating the CFPB. Using technology to kill enemies from thousands of miles away instead of sending in ARE TROOPS is fairly "liberal" in terms of foreign policy.
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Ayn Marx posted:You know, as a filthy optimistic euro still on high after my own country not voting in a fascist Russian stooge after all... I got to wonder. In 10-15 years from now, when sanity has returned and you guys have restored your collective dignity the hard way with public hearings and public hangings... will these loving maga caps be regarded the same way as the klan hoods? They'll probably be viewed in the same category as wearing blackface WRT being racist as poo poo.
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Hey guys Obama was...good. And also bad. He maybe did both good and bad things?
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i'm not allowed to have a mixed opinion on things it's either the best thing to ever happen or the worst thing since hitler /millennial
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FastestGunAlive posted:DR are you seriously going 2 for 2 on jumping out in front of the last two violent incidents to conduct a drat psychiatric evaluation based off a news article. "Hmm yes according to my expertise this is a guaranteed case of schizophrenia and no way is it politically or racially motivated". Lmao I'm not arguing one way or another here, but I was thinking, does anyone know why extreme racism (especially antisemitism) and misogyny seems to be common in schizophrenics? Like, it's not just these guys or ddees, but who hasn't passed homeless people on the street screaming at lampposts about the Jews?
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Stultus Maximus posted:I'm not arguing one way or another here, but I was thinking, does anyone know why extreme racism (especially antisemitism) and misogyny seems to be common in schizophrenics? Like, it's not just these guys or ddees, but who hasn't passed homeless people on the street screaming at lampposts about the Jews? Same reason why they wear tinfoil hats and listen to Infowars. A huge international Soviet-Nazi-Jewish-Something conspiracy is what actually makes them crazy, not a mental disorder. If their medication don't work or makes them into a drooling zombie, its the fault of the Jewish Bankers and the Fourth Reich trying to keep them down from exposing the truth!
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if Obama was a great President his annointed successor wouldn't have lost a humiliating election to one Donald J. Trump.
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Isn't indiscriminate murder enough reason to say someone was clearly psychologically disturbed? I mean, no one is out there defending the Manchester bomber's mental health and we can probably all agree he would have benefited from intervention by a mental health professional, but that doesnt discount that what he did was terrorism. This Portland guy may be crazier than all hell, that doesn't mean he can't commit a racially or religiously motivated crime.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:This Portland guy may be crazier than all hell, that doesn't mean he can't commit a racially or religiously motivated crime. I just want to know where he was radicalized, and why the white community hasn't yeah okay you know the joke by now.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:if Obama was a great President his annointed successor wouldn't have lost a humiliating election to one Donald J. Trump. His successor won the popularity contest by a pretty wide margin.
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psydude posted:His successor won the popularity contest by a pretty wide margin. Yet you can't win an election off California and New York. SAD!
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Yet you can't win an election off California and New York. SAD! This is true. But my point still stands.
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https://twitter.com/titivil/status/868470634241810432 lol he's gonna get pissy about all this and stuff in the future and gently caress with NATO isnt he
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Yet you can't win an election off California and New York. SAD! Bernie could have 
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://twitter.com/titivil/status/868470634241810432 The only thing he can do about NATO is be a crybaby beta bitch. Congress, specifically the Senate, won't let him do anything else.
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McMaster is officially full of poo poo. https://twitter.com/tarapalmeri/status/868459645928656896 No, not like that. https://twitter.com/tarapalmeri/status/868454506564079617 No, he very specifically did not. Too bad, McMaster forgot his own book.
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