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Like I always knew all officers were full of poo poo no one makes general by actually standing up to their bosses lol
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Just to play devil's advocate, so you'd rather McMaster resign his commission effectively immediately or would you rather him try to limit damage that Trump does domestically and abroad? personally I think McMaster and anyone asked to peddle this poo poo should immediately resign, but  at anyone actually having enough sack these days to just flat end their careerDid I also see that Trump refused to re-affirm the Paris accords?
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It's hard to base an opinion on the guy on what he could theoretically be doing behind the scenes when he's very publicly lying and supporting the administration's positions.
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May 27, 2017 16:21
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Buca di Bepis posted:It's hard to base an opinion on the guy on what he could theoretically be doing behind the scenes when he's very publicly lying and supporting the administration's positions. I agree, but it's unfortunately the role that he has. He has two choices - quit, or come out and spew the company line. There's nothing to say that Trump would accept his resignation, either, and could effectively force him to stay on in his current role.
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May 27, 2017 16:23
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Mr. Nice! posted:Just to play devil's advocate, so you'd rather McMaster resign his commission effectively immediately or would you rather him try to limit damage that Trump does domestically and abroad. I'd rather McMaster not lie about poo poo. That's not very hard. I have no problem with spinning, just don't loving lie and say people day stuff that they didn't. It would help if there was any sign he was actually listened to. For instance, Donnie is still bullshitting about the basics of how NATO is funded and making GBS threads all over NATO countries. As for Paris, Donnie is saying "he's getting a lot of heat back home" and "many people don't like it" and that he will decide next week (which was expected). Donnie was also super-involved with the G7 drafting statement, which is why six countries said YAY PARIS GOOD and Donnie split off the US in the statement.
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May 27, 2017 16:24
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Mr. Nice! posted:Just to play devil's advocate, so you'd rather McMaster resign his commission effectively immediately or would you rather him try to limit damage that Trump does domestically and abroad? personally I think McMaster and anyone asked to peddle this poo poo should immediately resign, but No he buckled under pressure with that one... I think.
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May 27, 2017 16:25
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Take a moment to remember the fallen https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/602571404861636608
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May 27, 2017 16:32
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May 27, 2017 16:56
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Gadaffi also liked to ride around in a
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May 27, 2017 17:02
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mlmp08 posted:Take a moment to remember the fallen if you post that tweet in reponse to a trump supporting veteran doing his "ur not allowed to have fun on memorial day because our troops died" would their brains melt out their ears?
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Reverand maynard posted:if you post that tweet in reponse to a trump supporting veteran doing his "ur not allowed to have fun on memorial day because our troops died" would their brains melt out their ears? Good question, Let's see, *scans facebook and posts*
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May 27, 2017 17:16
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FastestGunAlive posted:DR are you seriously going 2 for 2 on jumping out in front of the last two violent incidents to conduct a drat psychiatric evaluation based off a news article. "Hmm yes according to my expertise this is a guaranteed case of schizophrenia and no way is it politically or racially motivated". Lmao AreWeDrunkYet posted:Isn't indiscriminate murder enough reason to say someone was clearly psychologically disturbed? I mean, no one is out there defending the Manchester bomber's mental health and we can probably all agree he would have benefited from intervention by a mental health professional, but that doesnt discount that what he did was terrorism. This Portland guy may be crazier than all hell, that doesn't mean he can't commit a racially or religiously motivated crime.
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May 27, 2017 17:23
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Those who commit acts of terror tend to be both insane losers and also extremely hateful, it's not an either or. The Oregon guy apparently has a very long history of white supremacism. Edit: here's a long thread on the guy's background https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/868477854127763457
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May 27, 2017 17:29
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Dead Reckoning posted:No, there is distinction between deliberate acts of terrorism and episodes of untreated mental illness. While it is possible that the Manchester bomber had some sort of mental illness, premeditated acts of religious violence have been committed by plenty of sane people in the past. i dont think the police are going to find a couple thousand page hand written manifesto about government mind control techniques and a collection of tin foil hats in that guy's house. just a hunch. edit: just to be clear, i mean the manchester bomber. vains fucked around with this message at 17:48 on May 27, 2017 |
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You might be in for a surprise. Press found his Facebook, which, uh, sure is something.Best Friends posted:Those who commit acts of terror tend to be both insane losers and also extremely hateful, it's not an either or. The Oregon guy apparently has a very long history of white supremacism. Yeah, this sounds like a guy with a coherent, conservative, Christian, pro-Trump political philosophy:  
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May 27, 2017 17:44
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So basically he's the average youtube comment poster if you let him go on long enough.
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May 27, 2017 17:48
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Dead Reckoning posted:You might be in for a surprise. Press found his Facebook, which, uh, sure is something. He sounds like a Pepe. I'm not saying he's not crazy. I am saying he's crazy like a whole lot of other people in that hate movement. And if he was making the same unhinged rants about Allah and did the same thing, we wouldn't be having this conversation, he'd exactly fit the pattern of all the other western born terrorists. Which, he still does. Terrorists are broken brained losers who are also full of hate. Like this guy.
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May 27, 2017 18:00
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Like do you realize how many white supremacists aren't Christian? Weird neo pagan stuff is all the rage in prison gangs.
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May 27, 2017 18:02
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BIDEN BREAK https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/868509584465514496 https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/868512379834953728
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May 27, 2017 18:03
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so many balls busted over that hah
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That is very nice biden but i think why people don't have a job might be old rich white people
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May 27, 2017 18:05
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facialimpediment posted:BIDEN BREAK The president we need but not the president we deserve.
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May 27, 2017 18:19
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he's gonna run third party in 2020, split the vote, and we get 4 more years of winning.
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May 27, 2017 18:25
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Mr. Nice! posted:he's gonna run third party in 2020, split the vote, and we get 4 more years of winning. Another finger on the monkey's paw closes.
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Best Friends posted:Like do you realize how many white supremacists aren't Christian? Weird neo pagan stuff is all the rage in prison gangs. Casimir Radon posted:I can't wait for the GOP to claim this has nothing to do with their rhetoric. CommieGIR posted:Or standard Tea Partier/Trumpite. Lots of Trumpites believe the hype about Muslims being illegals. People ITT stating, or at the very least strongly insinuating, that this guy was a Trump supporter/Tea Partier, and that his actions were inspired by Trump/GOP/Tea Party rhetoric. This guy was a loon ball who happened to have an axe to grind with immigrants and Muslims. The Republican party is also anti immigrant, and Trump is anti Muslim, but saying that the Political Nihilist Lizard King was directly inspired to stab two people in the throat by the GOP establishment is "hmm do you know who else went to art school?  " levels of seeing what you want to see.
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Dead Reckoning posted:This guy was a loon ball who happened to have an axe to grind with immigrants and Muslims. The Republican party is also anti immigrant, and Trump is anti Muslim, but saying that the Political Nihilist Lizard King was directly inspired to stab two people in the throat by the GOP establishment is "hmm do you know who else went to art school? I don't think the point is that he was directly inspired, but that the current level of anti-immigrant rhetoric is such that he may have been emboldened by it. The dude's a fringe loony, but when the mainstream ruling party normalizes xenophobic speech and attitudes, it creates an environment where someone on the fringe might feel it's safe to take more drastic action than they may have previously.
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He was a Trump supporter though. Anyone on the internet can see the "alt right," that this guy was clearly in the middle of, is a notable subset of Trump supporters. As far as him being filled with hate, that hate comes from society. No one just wakes up and decides to hate muslims. Just like in the middle east no one wakes up and completely on their own decides that the Shia are actually part of the vast Zionist conspiracy or whatever. The right wing in general has normalized anti-islam views and now the alt-right is growing in power. Some members of the alt right will periodically act on the rhetoric.
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May 27, 2017 19:00
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He once like a Facebook meme with a Pepe. Burn the witch.
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Can we go with the term brown scare. Or white scare? Red Scare was nice
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Waroduce posted:Can we go with the term brown scare. Or white scare? Red Scare was nice make your foto look like <- foto SwampDonkey fucked around with this message at 20:02 on May 27, 2017 |
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May 27, 2017 19:59
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Dead Reckoning posted:Perhaps, instead of thinking of our current detente as a natural evolution, you should consider it an anomaly, and that our political struggles being coupled with physical violence is actually the normal state of affairs. Like peace in Europe, it's worth working towards, but it isn't how things have been for most of history, or are guaranteed to be in the future. If you got punched in the face every day for a couple years would you also think complaining about that would be odd? People have taken issue with this kind of behavior since day 1. The caning of Charles Sumner is a pretty prime example of this. I dunno why you would bring up an incredibly contriversal act of violence in the era just prior to civil war as some type of status quo. It literally preceded the most significant upheaval of American society since its inception
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Donnie isn't listening to someone important. Normally not a huge problem and/or would draw a "no poo poo". Except, that person is White House Counsel  https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/868533597275385861 Ivanka and Jared also tried to use said White House Counsel for themselves. They were promptly told to get hosed and it leaked out, forcing them to use a private attorney. https://twitter.com/yashar/status/868534145483517953 Also some talk about Priebus exiting the White House to serve as Ambassador to Greece as a consolation prize. Congressional Republicans thought they were done with this bullshit. Whoops!
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I'm a little worried by, "We saw the forces of populism." One thing I remember from NPR during the primaries was a piece conflating Sanders and Trump by discussing both platforms as, "populism," and doing a lot of bait-and-switches between starting to talk about Sanders but then switching to Trump's platform while hiding the transition inside the framing around, "populism."
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May 27, 2017 20:40
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Loden Taylor posted:I don't think the point is that he was directly inspired, but that the current level of anti-immigrant rhetoric is such that he may have been emboldened by it. The dude's a fringe loony, but when the mainstream ruling party normalizes xenophobic speech and attitudes, it creates an environment where someone on the fringe might feel it's safe to take more drastic action than they may have previously.
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Dead Reckoning posted:You might be in for a surprise. Press found his Facebook, which, uh, sure is something. Is there literally anyone who isn't a multi-millionaire who has a coherent, conservative, pro-Trump political philosophy? His whole approach to governing is FYGM. If I kill someone while drunk, is alcohol to blame? No, but it certainly would seem that in most cases that it was an aggravating factor. By my estimation being crazy while dangerous rhetoric is being normalized is more problematic than being crazy in the absence of that rhetoric.
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facialimpediment posted:Also some talk about Priebus exiting the White House to serve as Ambassador to Greece as a consolation prize. On vacation in Greece, they deserve him and can keep him.
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Have you ever checked out the Donald?
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Dead Reckoning posted:According to his rap sheet, the guy had a long history of being violent and erratic prior to Trump getting elected, and I see little reason to believe he wouldn't have continued to be violent and erratic irrespective of who won the election. Nothing about this guy screams "cares about being in the Overton window". The habit of certain posters to chime in with, "this never would have happened if it weren't for the Tea Party" every time a person who preferred Trump to Hillary kills someone regardless of the circumstances says more about them than it does reflect reality. Dude, don't pretend this behavior hasn't been fostered and amplified by recent GOP events and stances. You guys are just pulling the lone wolf excuse. If he was any other color or ethnicity, there'd be nothing but talk of cultural stigma. I sincerely doubt that the majority of Muslim Extremist Terrorist are mentally healthy or stable. After all, they decided murder/suicide was a valid course of action CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 21:19 on May 27, 2017 |
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