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Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

carry on then posted:

code:

it's real bad

They got it bad, and that ain't good.

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evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Here's something obsolete I picked up just yesterday, and I'm betting that quite a few readers of this thread didn't even know it existed: A quadraphonic receiver!



You could get four-channel tapes and even vinyl records. It also comes complete with connections for a decoder for not yet existing four channel FM broadcasts!

It's a Pioneer QX 949, and cost me $20.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer
Oh Quad. I'd kill for an 8068 with rear bus or a QM-69.
Sigh.

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Post the knobfeel video.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Platystemon posted:

We should bury all the Juiceros in a landfill in Arizona, under a concrete cap that has some pithy warning etched in it.

Under all the unsold ET games?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Under all the unsold ET games?

Those are in New Mexico.

Because I remembered wrong.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

carry on then posted:

Post the knobfeel video.

Grumbletron 4000
Nov 30, 2002

Where you want it, bitch.
College Slice

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

I'm in awe. Custom machining and precision engineering for a thing that does nothing more than smash a bag.

Also he was talking out his rear end at the beginning when he said that Caterpillar just wanted their machines on your job sites so they could sell you spare parts. One of their main selling points and a large part of their business philosophy is that they provide their clients with equipment they specifically will not need spare parts for.

That's partially true about CAT machines. They're a premium brand and sell for a premium price. A huge reason contractors will pay for CAT machines is the parts and service network. Those machines require a ton of maintenance and undercarriage parts as part of their regular service. When they do break down it costs the contractor a ton of money every second that machine is down. CAT offers guaranteed 48 hour delivery on most parts almost anywhere in the world. Not to mention they have every blueprint for every part for every machine they've ever made. So even if the part isn't available anymore, it can still be reproduced. Been working for CAT in parts distribution for almost two decades. They make a fine machine but when they do break we get the parts out there faster than any other brand.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Wow wrong thread.

GutBomb has a new favorite as of 01:42 on May 27, 2017

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

That's partially true about CAT machines. They're a premium brand and sell for a premium price. A huge reason contractors will pay for CAT machines is the parts and service network. Those machines require a ton of maintenance and undercarriage parts as part of their regular service. When they do break down it costs the contractor a ton of money every second that machine is down. CAT offers guaranteed 48 hour delivery on most parts almost anywhere in the world. Not to mention they have every blueprint for every part for every machine they've ever made. So even if the part isn't available anymore, it can still be reproduced. Been working for CAT in parts distribution for almost two decades. They make a fine machine but when they do break we get the parts out there faster than any other brand.

I don't know about the equipment side of things but this was very true with the marine engines, great parts network and everything was documented by serial number range. I wish I could get that level of clarity from other vendors - some manufacturers definitely make it hard to know exactly which poorly documented revision of a part you need. Doubly true for stuff built under license overseas.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Grumbletron 4000 posted:

That's partially true about CAT machines. They're a premium brand and sell for a premium price. A huge reason contractors will pay for CAT machines is the parts and service network. Those machines require a ton of maintenance and undercarriage parts as part of their regular service. When they do break down it costs the contractor a ton of money every second that machine is down. CAT offers guaranteed 48 hour delivery on most parts almost anywhere in the world. Not to mention they have every blueprint for every part for every machine they've ever made. So even if the part isn't available anymore, it can still be reproduced. Been working for CAT in parts distribution for almost two decades. They make a fine machine but when they do break we get the parts out there faster than any other brand.

Also the CCR Program which actually keeps older machinery operational long past it's original lifespan.

:getin:

shovelbum posted:

I don't know about the equipment side of things but this was very true with the marine engines, great parts network and everything was documented by serial number range. I wish I could get that level of clarity from other vendors - some manufacturers definitely make it hard to know exactly which poorly documented revision of a part you need. Doubly true for stuff built under license overseas.

I used to work in spares for companies such as Electrolux/LG/Samsung etc. I'll tell you now that if you want a home appliance - get yourself something under the Electrolux banner (Electrolux/Simpson/Dishlex/Chef/Westinghouse). Not necessarily for quality but for the after sales support. I would have to find some random doodad for something built in the 70s and within 5 minutes I would have the original service manual and parts views, sometimes even scanned in from an original binder complete with hand written corrections and tips from Factory trained technicians.

My old boss also keeps me in the loop with the account changes so I can still look up anything I need to fix

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 05:35 on May 27, 2017

Grumbletron 4000
Nov 30, 2002

Where you want it, bitch.
College Slice

shovelbum posted:

I don't know about the equipment side of things but this was very true with the marine engines, great parts network and everything was documented by serial number range. I wish I could get that level of clarity from other vendors - some manufacturers definitely make it hard to know exactly which poorly documented revision of a part you need. Doubly true for stuff built under license overseas.

We seriously bust our asses to get the right parts out quick. Those marine engines can be some big bastards. I love seeing them come through. If you're on the east coast of the US or Canada there's a good chance any CAT certified new or rebuilt anything came across my dock. :haw:


Humphreys posted:

Also the CCR Program which actually keeps older machinery operational long past it's original lifespan.

:getin:

I got to tour one of the shops in Illinois where they do the rebuilds. They literally strip them down to a bare chassis. There's more new parts than refurbs on them. I don't recall exactly how long it takes but it's a shockingly short amount of time from clapped out barely rolling D9 to what looks like brand new. It's a seriously slick operation.

A little insight into the CAT parts business... The volume of used and refurbed parts is very much linked to the economy. I've been doing it long enough to see that during economic downturns we get loving busy. People don't want to buy new machines so they keep their existing fleets going for longer, which results in them needing more repairs more often for those aging machines. Which means big business for me. Hooray for job security! It's seasonal too. Right now, with the warmer weather there's more projects going on. More dirt getting pushed around equals broken poo poo which means it's busy as hell right now. Busier than it's ever been actually.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Grumbletron 4000 posted:

We seriously bust our asses to get the right parts out quick. Those marine engines can be some big bastards. I love seeing them come through. If you're on the east coast of the US or Canada there's a good chance any CAT certified new or rebuilt anything came across my dock. :haw:


I got to tour one of the shops in Illinois where they do the rebuilds. They literally strip them down to a bare chassis. There's more new parts than refurbs on them. I don't recall exactly how long it takes but it's a shockingly short amount of time from clapped out barely rolling D9 to what looks like brand new. It's a seriously slick operation.

A little insight into the CAT parts business... The volume of used and refurbed parts is very much linked to the economy. I've been doing it long enough to see that during economic downturns we get loving busy. People don't want to buy new machines so they keep their existing fleets going for longer, which results in them needing more repairs more often for those aging machines. Which means big business for me. Hooray for job security! It's seasonal too. Right now, with the warmer weather there's more projects going on. More dirt getting pushed around equals broken poo poo which means it's busy as hell right now. Busier than it's ever been actually.

I filmed one of the 789 (?) CCR for Hastings many years ago. It was the pilot program from memory and it took maybe 3 months, apparently it was a big deal in the industry at the time that it was going on. I fondly remember sitting on an island enjoying my vacation and logging into my 4 timelapse camera rigs to see the whole workshop flooded out after a cyclone. Every minute I got a new photo of the mad scramble to secure parts.

repeating
Nov 14, 2005

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

That's partially true about CAT machines. They're a premium brand and sell for a premium price. A huge reason contractors will pay for CAT machines is the parts and service network. Those machines require a ton of maintenance and undercarriage parts as part of their regular service. When they do break down it costs the contractor a ton of money every second that machine is down. CAT offers guaranteed 48 hour delivery on most parts almost anywhere in the world. Not to mention they have every blueprint for every part for every machine they've ever made. So even if the part isn't available anymore, it can still be reproduced. Been working for CAT in parts distribution for almost two decades. They make a fine machine but when they do break we get the parts out there faster than any other brand.

My stepdad made a lot of money just welding CAT skid-steer forks back together when idiots broke them.

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

I got to tour one of the shops in Illinois where they do the rebuilds. They literally strip them down to a bare chassis. There's more new parts than refurbs on them. I don't recall exactly how long it takes but it's a shockingly short amount of time from clapped out barely rolling D9 to what looks like brand new. It's a seriously slick operation.

Apropos, here's a mining truck engine rebuild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSA_3suhC0Q

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
More CAT chat: I worked with them on a research project a few years back and got to visit their main Testing Center in Peoria, Illinois. I learned that CAT owns and controls much of what goes into the product, including the factories casting their parts.
At the Tech Center, they have a giant indoor sandbox for their machinery to fool around in. It's a giant facility.
The part of the campus I was on housed their "Defense Division". That would include poo poo like specialized, armored bulldozers sold to Israel for settlement work (so they told us!).

mwdan
Feb 7, 2004

Webbed Blobs

evobatman posted:

Here's something obsolete I picked up just yesterday, and I'm betting that quite a few readers of this thread didn't even know it existed: A quadraphonic receiver!



You could get four-channel tapes and even vinyl records. It also comes complete with connections for a decoder for not yet existing four channel FM broadcasts!

It's a Pioneer QX 949, and cost me $20.

Did you get Quadrophenia for it?

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
No, it's set up in 2-channel mode right now, which gives it 2*60W instead of 4*40W. It has developed quite a few issues after 20 years of storage and me using it for just a couple of days, so unless it can be fixed with deoxit, it's gotta move on.

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

edit: nm

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

That's partially true about CAT machines. They're a premium brand and sell for a premium price. A huge reason contractors will pay for CAT machines is the parts and service network. Those machines require a ton of maintenance and undercarriage parts as part of their regular service. When they do break down it costs the contractor a ton of money every second that machine is down. CAT offers guaranteed 48 hour delivery on most parts almost anywhere in the world. Not to mention they have every blueprint for every part for every machine they've ever made. So even if the part isn't available anymore, it can still be reproduced. Been working for CAT in parts distribution for almost two decades. They make a fine machine but when they do break we get the parts out there faster than any other brand.

In one of those strange cosmic coincidences, I ran into some acquaintances who work at the local CAT EXD plant over the weekend, and their explanation was right in line with yours. I could listen to/read descriptions of how that all works all drat day.

And a 48-hour turnaround is insane considering some of the job sites excavation gets sent to--mines in jungles, installations in warzones, remote islands, etc. And apparently if they can't fix it right away, they'll send you a loaner machine ASAP while they effect repairs so you can keep working, which is some drat fine service.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light
More video artifacts from Techmoan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdObeF9VHiA

Watch near the end and see him in the 90s.

stevewm
May 10, 2005
I love the puppet clips at the end of most of his videos, the he uses mostly for berating commenters..

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

His video today is about a strange, sort of quasi-anachronistic piece of work: a £30 boombox from Aldi that includes SD card access and Bluetooth connectivity, but is also a compact cassette player. I only got to watch half of it so far but here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsm7HIYLONo

Maybe these are more common in Europe, I dunno.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I haven't seen the video yet, but I actually mentioned a similar boombox here before, perhaps in this very thread. Apparently they're a huge pile of junk, in general.

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

I would expect nothing more from something with cassette functionality as a feature for £30 in 2017. Looks like something you'd pick up at a dollar store or gas station here in the States.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I mean those cheapo stereo systems are in every college dorm room etc. in the country so it's not that far-fetched that they'd have similarly crappy cheapo systems with SD cards/Bluetooth support; even though a Bluetooth speaker the size of a soda can will put out more volume with better quality, some people want a bigger and dumber-looking system, I guess?

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
The 8-bit Guy covered one of these crap boom boxes last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNgm8Cn-HpY

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Titus Sardonicus posted:

His video today is about a strange, sort of quasi-anachronistic piece of work: a £30 boombox from Aldi that includes SD card access and Bluetooth connectivity, but is also a compact cassette player. I only got to watch half of it so far but here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsm7HIYLONo

Maybe these are more common in Europe, I dunno.

Urban Outfitters sells the same thing with some slight differences. I was slightly interested until I looked up some reviews. It's about what you would expect for $30.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

In highly obsolete technology news, I rode in a 1914 Ford Model T today.

There's zero safety features whatsoever in a crash. The seat is relatively comfy, but at 6'2 my knees are permanently bent and the door handle is wedged against my thigh.

The vehicle is also surprisingly quiet. You can hear a driver talking to his passengers from 100 feet as long as he isn't revving the engine.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Mr.Radar posted:

The 8-bit Guy covered one of these crap boom boxes last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNgm8Cn-HpY

Really a pro-click when he goes into the quality of the mp3 files and encoding.

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

Krispy Kareem posted:

Urban Outfitters sells the same thing with some slight differences. I was slightly interested until I looked up some reviews. It's about what you would expect for $30.

Yeah, it doesn't look like something that would put out amazing sound. Anyone with the knowhow probably figures they'd better off spending the money on a secondhand hifi component from a thrift store and fixing it up. That's what I plan to do (if I don't inherit my dad's old, long-neglected hifi stuff (including some old Akai reel-to-reel)), then expose my daughter to golden-age hip-hop in the way it's meant to be heard: on a gotdamn mixtape.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Titus Sardonicus posted:

Yeah, it doesn't look like something that would put out amazing sound. Anyone with the knowhow probably figures they'd better off spending the money on a secondhand hifi component from a thrift store and fixing it up. That's what I plan to do (if I don't inherit my dad's old, long-neglected hifi stuff (including some old Akai reel-to-reel)), then expose my daughter to golden-age hip-hop in the way it's meant to be heard: on a gotdamn mixtape.

My sister's father-in-law was a Greek nightclub singer for years and has a whole wall of audio equipment including a pristine reel-to-reel player. It's so beautiful.

According to ads in old copies of Playboy, Columbia House had a version for reel-to-reel.

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

Oh trust me, I got my eye on that Akai. It probably needs all its belts replaced at the very least, but I want that machine.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Mr.Radar posted:

The 8-bit Guy covered one of these crap boom boxes last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNgm8Cn-HpY

Tomorrow I'm selling an Atari Jaguar + games for $550 and gambling it all on a 50inch UHD TV from (the once GOOD) JVC for $350...countdown to failure!

Nutsngum
Oct 9, 2004

I don't think it's nice, you laughing.

spog posted:

Really a pro-click when he goes into the quality of the mp3 files and encoding.

Plus Techmoan cross over!

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Humphreys posted:

Tomorrow I'm selling an Atari Jaguar + games for $550 and gambling it all on a 50inch UHD TV from (the once GOOD) JVC for $350...countdown to failure!

Probably not as big of a failure as the Jaguar. I still remember going to Incredible Universe and I was so pumped to try out the Jaguar, 3DO, CDi, Neo Geo and other machines I'd never seen in person and walking away so disappointed.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Mammal Sauce posted:

Probably not as big of a failure as the Jaguar. I still remember going to Incredible Universe and I was so pumped to try out the Jaguar, 3DO, CDi, Neo Geo and other machines I'd never seen in person and walking away so disappointed.

The Jaguar really is terrible. I got mine maybe 10 years ago as part of a bulk lot buy. Never turned it on until this week when some local collectors got word I hoard a bunch of gaming gear. After my youth having a poster of the Alien Vs Predator game on my wall dreaming of playing it, finally having a go at it to test truely was dissapointing.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


The Jaguar really was a big steaming pile of a console. The controller was poorly designed, it had no good games at launch, and thanks to some questionable decisions by Atari it was a nightmare to code for.

The Neo Geo, however, is a fine system if you're an insane person. I've never touched a 3DO that I can remember, and the CDi is just a lackluster console only notable for how much money they wasted on FMV puzzle games and those weird Zelda games.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!
The Neo Geo was literally "let's put our arcade hardware in a home console box" which was fine except that it made the thing cost $700 in 1990 money. That's about equal to a console costing $1200 in 2016 money.

Games were similarly significantly more expensive than games for competing systems.

The Neo Geo collecting scene is super interesting because there's a decent chunk of people who make their own console from salvaged arcade cabinet boards, and arcade ROM carts are the cheaper way to get some games.

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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Wasn't that because the games had all the ram and the console basically had zilch?

I remember it being the reason on the playground.

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