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The real brain teaser that will keep you up is whether FW is going to keep using the same scale for future infantry HH releases or whether the Primaris will turn out to be a stealth whole-line upscale like everyone thinks. Which is going to be super fun, because they've inherited the AoS "tiny head" syndrome a bit so we'll have entire armies of lanky kongs. Also, working on my Toxx still after losing family, losing a house, losing a car and regaining two of those in the space of three months. It's been slow!
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Rulebook Heavily posted:The real brain teaser that will keep you up is whether FW is going to keep using the same scale for future infantry HH releases or whether the Primaris will turn out to be a stealth whole-line upscale like everyone thinks. Which is going to be super fun, because they've inherited the AoS "tiny head" syndrome a bit so we'll have entire armies of lanky kongs. Some of us haven't even unbagged ours. Word is, some people haven't even purchased theirs. You're fine 
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Ghazk posted:It might be too much to add at this point, but I like my seeker squads to have more than a cupola combi-plas, and their proteus to have an augury web and multi melta. Makes them a major threat to anything on turn 1. It is!  Played against a Mastodon full of termies and firedrakes and a kharybidis with Vulkan and a command squad.  I shot up the Mastodon ok but was unable to kill it the first turn so this happened:  Firedrakes were unable to pop the Proteus and the termies punched up my two tac Rhinos. Fancy termies failed a charge against the Leviathan, which stomped in and did some work.  Then this happened:   That was pretty much the end for me. All 2+ infantry, a primarch and a LoW is a rough matchup for all of my high volume low AP shooting- I probably should have bunkered up a little and tried to spend more time shooting the Mastodon, then just forced ten million armor saves on him and hoped to get enough 1's. Props: Ironwing seekers shooting template shots (12 small blasts on tightly packed firedrakes was great), tac marines shooting bolters, the scorpius. Slops: Sicaran Venator whiffed on every shot, I need to build my laser vindicators.
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Nice pictures mate. Vulkan gonna give it to ya. Roll on Warhammer fest. I for one welcome our new 8th ed overlords.
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May 26, 2017 07:24
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Man, you played one motherfucker of a list. I would treat you better!
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Yeah, how many points was that? In what world do you get to bring Vulkan and a Mastodon?
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In hindsight his list wasn't legal, since Primarchs Chosen doesn't let you take a LoW. Whatever, I'll give poo poo about it next time.
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May 26, 2017 15:17
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That and you can't even take a Mastodon until 2800 points. 
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Nothing wrong with a little friendly cheating
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Hixson posted:Nothing wrong with a little friendly cheating Yeah this. Now I know for next time! I'll take his mastodon and run it over with my car and then gently lick his tears from his cheeks.
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May 26, 2017 15:48
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Talk poo poo, get hit (with a hammer)
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It's called warhammer for a reason imo.
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Poor TKWG. Plays with a ham outside the PNW crew and they cheat worse than panascope
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May 26, 2017 18:51
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I apologize to you, Panascope. You aren't that great a cheater because you haven't snuck a mastodon onto the table before. I guess you're allrite
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BULBASAUR posted:Poor TKWG. Plays with a ham outside the PNW crew and they cheat worse than panascope I would have thought you guys trained him to expect this?
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May 26, 2017 20:35
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Cheating a 700 point model onto the table is a challenge I'm willing to accept.
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May 26, 2017 22:23
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tl;dr so far: Alan Bligh is dead. Not kidding, he died of cancer. 7th ed HH specific rulebook is being released. Thunderhawk in resin is p. cool. New Sicaran turrets. Custodes terminators. Valdor is sculpted.
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Lord Twisted posted:tl;dr so far: drat,  . That sucks.
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Good bye Bligh, you did well 
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Lord Twisted posted:
Wait, what? gently caress
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ADB on Bligh's death: https://aarondembskibowden.wordpress.com/2017/05/27/alan-bligh/ The feels, man, the feels.
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Mango Polo posted:Good bye Bligh, you did well
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Alan Bligh  Bligh's shaped FW releases for years and 30k was pretty much his pet project. He always seemed like a passionate, knowledgeable dude in interviews and panels. His loss is definitely going to be felt. He was a good ham.
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          quote:Regarding Horus Heresy Book Eight: Angelus, they had this to say about its contents:  
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May 27, 2017 16:07
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Those alternate Sicarans look awesome. Very unconventional (other than the dual plasma).
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May 27, 2017 16:51
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They're already going to be transferring a lot of their models to the 8th ed ruleset, wonder why they're making HH permanently 7th edition.
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I feel bad complaining about 30k delays now, knowing that they were probably because the lead had cancer.
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To be honest if Bligh had cancer... I can imagine that slowing things down internally.
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It is tragic that Alan Bligh had cancer, but don't feel bad for levelling criticism at the company for putting out a lovely product.
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chutche2 posted:They're already going to be transferring a lot of their models to the 8th ed ruleset, wonder why they're making HH permanently 7th edition. Most likely to avoid having to rewrite a half-dozen $100 books in the next 6 months
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Even if there is an eventual move to 8th, knowing for sure what is going on makes me feel a lot better. I am sure we have at least 2 or 3 more years of 7.5, so I am happy buying the new printings of the red books now. I have been holding off on anything Horus Heresy related other than painting up basic troops that were going to see play whatever they decided to do.
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chutche2 posted:They're already going to be transferring a lot of their models to the 8th ed ruleset, wonder why they're making HH permanently 7th edition. A lot of the rumors were along the lines of "AoS is the entry level game, 40k is the mainstream game, HH is the grog game." I think it makes sense from that perspective. RIP Bligh, hope the cancer wasn't from too much resin dust.
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With the future of Horus Heresy finally revealed to be the prophesied 7.5 I feel like I can finally start working on building a list. How does this look as a solid base to build from? 4 scoring units is pretty handy, and I plan to add a lot of the toys when I move to 3000 points. ++ The Age of Darkness (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2000pts] ++ + HQ + Legion Champion [120pts]: Artificer Armour, Boarding Shield, Chainsword or Combat Blade, Charnabal Sabre, Sonic Shrieker . Consul: Legion Champion Legion Praetor [335pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Sonic Shrieker . Legion Command Squad: 5x Charnabal Sabre, Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 4x Legion Space Marine Chosen + Elites + Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [200pts] . Legion Contemptor Dreadnought: Twin-Linked Lascannon Legion Terminator Squad [473pts]: Land Raider Phobos, Terminator Armour . Legion Terminator Sergeant: Combi-Weapon, Grenade Harness, Phoenix Spear . Legion Terminators: Combi-Weapon, Power Fist . Legion Terminators: Combi-Weapon, Power Fist . Legion Terminators: Combi-Weapon, Power Fist . Legion Terminators: Combi-Weapon, Power Fist + Troops + Legion Tactical Squad [210pts]: Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines . Additional Wargear: Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Bolters, Legion Vexilla . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chainsword/Combat Blade, Melta Bombs, Phoenix Spear Legion Tactical Squad [210pts]: Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines . Additional Wargear: Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Bolters, Legion Vexilla . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chainsword/Combat Blade, Melta Bombs, Phoenix Spear Legion Tactical Support Squad [207pts]: Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 8x Legion Space Marines . Additional Wargear: Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade . Entire Squad may exchange their Flamers for:: Volkite Charger . Legion Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Volkite Charger + Fast Attack + Legion Outrider Squad [90pts]: 3x Legion Space Marine Outrider Legion Seeker Squad [155pts]: 4x Legion Seeker Space Marines + Allegiance + Legiones Astartes: III: Emperor's Children, Traitor Rite of War: The Maru Skara ++ Total: [2000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe
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I'm glad we are staying 7th edition just because it seems like a suitably groggy outcome for Warhammer 30k historical battle players.
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So if the rules aren't really changing, and the army lists aren't changing, it's still marksmen vets or nothing. Kind of sucks.
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OhDearGodNo posted:Completed This rules.
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TKIY posted:So if the rules aren't really changing, and the army lists aren't changing, it's still marksmen vets or nothing. Same. I was hoping jumping to 8th would shake up the meta at least a little. I'm not even talking like tourney-level poo poo, Marksmen Vets are so good you're actively gimping yourself not taking them, and that kind of balance sucks.
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SteelMentor posted:Same. I was hoping jumping to 8th would shake up the meta at least a little. As someone who plays in lots of events both narrative and competitive and just beerhammer I was getting pretty desperate for a breath of fresh air in 30k. There is a large and growing list of straight up retarded poo poo in heresy that is just going to continue to pile up same way 7th edition 40k did. I moved away from 40k because of all the broken and spammy stuff and the last 12 months of 30k gaming I have seen this style sweep into heresy. Oh well at least this gives me a heading on what to sell and what to buy this year. I am going to run haywire and vultarax spam with no mercy and when marines players cry I will whisper in their ear "8th edition would have saved you"
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