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Rinkles posted:Alex Jones is a level beyond FOX, and the former hosts (assuming this news is true) might reach new lows, unrestrained by what low standards the station held them accountable to. I mean, they already call for veiled acts of violence. So if they go any further it'll be explicitly calling for murder. And as much as "lol nothing matters" is a thing, that's still pretty illegal. EDIT: Memorial Day Doggie.  (and yes I know the dog tax thing is no longer a rule, but I like it goddammit)
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Instant Sunrise posted:Doesn't he still have his radio show? He will absolutely go anchor on RWW or some other farther-right-than-fox media outlet.
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Anyone wondering what it matters if Hannity gets fired need only ask themselves how much impact Bill O'Reilly has right now or when the last time they thought about Megyn Kelly was. Hannity will have his radio show and his twitter but he loses a massive outlet if he gets fired from Fox News and its a major blow to his credibility. And its a little less poison on the air. IF it happens. I think its probably an inevitability but I'm hesitant about all these rumors that its imminent.
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Rinkles posted:In the short term, might this further radicalize a portion of right wing viewers? moving away from FOX to INFOWARS or whatever O'Reilly/Hannity concoct? Is this what those egg-headed academics call a compaction cycle?
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Crain posted:I mean, they already call for veiled acts of violence. I don't think Hannity is losing his job over this, but he may have if he refused to drop it. That's the low standard I'm referring to.
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Rinkles posted:I don't think Hannity is losing his job over this, but he may have if he refused to drop it. That's the low standard I'm referring to. Depends on how many sponsors have sent letters notifying the network of dropping the show privately.
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I think Hannity will fair better than O'Reilly post-Fox. Isn't his radio show pretty popular?
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Rinkles posted:I doubt he's had time to put anything together, if he has plans to continue his punditry at all (outside radio). That's fair. I'd be curious to know (if it could be measured beyond just reach) how glenn beck's influence changed when he left tv.
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Rinkles posted:I don't think Hannity is losing his job over this, but he may have if he refused to drop it. That's the low standard I'm referring to. The question is IF he dropped it since he tweeted about it immediately after his show and has been TV and Twitter silent since. Does Hannity have the humility and self control to do what he's told and drop this subject? Will Fox News be content if he drops it on air but talks about it on radio or Twitter? Really this is probably a small bit of a larger game of tug-a-war Hannity seems to be playing with Fox News every since the fall of Ailes. So the question is when does one side have enough? edit: And yeah, ultimately the real power is in the hands of the advertisers and enough of them put their foot down on Hannity he's done.
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STAC Goat posted:Anyone wondering what it matters if Hannity gets fired need only ask themselves how much impact Bill O'Reilly has right now or when the last time they thought about Megyn Kelly was. Again, does O'Reilly currently have an outlet beyond the radio show? He could no doubt put together something to mirror Infowars if he wanted to (audience obviously not guaranteed). And if he had any such plans, it would only be getting started.
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Rinkles posted:Again, does O'Reilly currently have an outlet beyond the radio show? Hitting his girlfriend if has one.
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Rinkles posted:Again, does O'Reilly currently have an outlet beyond the radio show? He's got a podcast and website. But the reality is its probably hard to build up a full on news site and staff with an audience without some time and buildup. And its a question as to whether these old multi-millionare egomaniacs really want to do the work to possibly fail like Beck or Palin or others have. Hannity will have his radio show to help him out but that audience is probably pretty built in with him. And the "worst case" here is that he maintains his influence and divides the Fox News audience. Which would be awesome.
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SeANMcBAY posted:I think Hannity will fair better than O'Reilly post-Fox. Isn't his radio show pretty popular? Popular for radio. For reference: Hannity's radio show comes in roughly 4th/5th or 2nd depending on whose list you use and brings in 12.5 million listeners. So yes. He will still have an audience. But it's an audience that's only about 2.6% the size of his television audience. And even if some of his viewers who somehow don't already listen to him switch, he's never going to reach the same audience as he does with TV. SNIP EDIT WAIT: Read a chart wrong Crain fucked around with this message at 23:39 on May 27, 2017 |
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/868590291107942400 I'm not sure if that's supposed to be a floral pattern on her dress, or perhaps arterial spray from her latest victim.
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To be fair, the only reason we haven't seen or heard from Kelly is because of her non compete clause in her contract.
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business hammocks posted:Would anyone give Alex Jones a show? TRUMP TV. Not really joking.
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business hammocks posted:Would anyone give Alex Jones a show? It would never survive a week without him starting a scandal and losing advertisers. At least not on any the major outlets we have right now. He'd need some harder right outlet and I'm not convinced that would be able to get advertisers.
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TARDISman posted:To be fair, the only reason we haven't seen or heard from Kelly is because of her non compete clause in her contract. Her new show will air June 4 on NBC. http://thehill.com/homenews/media/335316-first-promo-released-for-megyn-kellys-nbc-news-show
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There Bias Two posted:I'm not sure if that's supposed to be a floral pattern on her dress, or perhaps arterial spray from her latest victim. Gotta watch those Belgians.
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Actually: Radio: 12.5 million weekly ratings TV: 2.6 million nightly, roughly 13 million adjusted weekly ratings. So Hannity would be losing about half of his combined audience.
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Apologies if this has been posted already but lol https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/868565745000747008
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Crain posted:Actually: That's more than a bit of a miscalculation, yeah. Especially when you factor in audience overlap.
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hanales posted:Apologies if this has been posted already but lol Apparently that's a joint suit by Vilerats mom and another parent just being idiots.
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Rinkles posted:That's more than a bit of a miscalculation, yeah. Especially when you factor in audience overlap. Yeah, no idea how to find that out if the data is even out there. But yeah, I misread the 470 rating on a rating site about representing millions instead of some internal Nielson rating system. Not nearly that big.
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Starmaker posted:Is this what those egg-headed academics call a compaction cycle? If by academics you mean Prester Jane, then yes, I believe so.
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hanales posted:Apologies if this has been posted already but lol I want that DNC's guy family to sue hannity and win.
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PT6A posted:If by academics you mean Prester Jane, then yes, I believe so.  No but seriously I think this might be the first time I've seen it in action. It's kind of fascinating but if it goes the way Prester Jane describes/predicts it will, then it's also kind of terrifying. Let's hope this is actually just Fox News and RWM dying off forever and everything being good forever hooray
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Crabtree posted:I want that DNC's guy family to sue hannity and win. They probably have a reasonable defamation case, even though the story is about the dead guy Fox made a lot of noise about how the family members were trying to cover it up.
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Crain posted:Popular for radio. just lol @ calculating that hannity gets more viewers than the population of the united states and not thinking twice before posting
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Gonna crush that Paris climate deal like Macron crushed his tiny hands!
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Fox news downfall will pull cnn / msnbc and the likes to the right as they try to attrack whats left of its dying viewerbase, wich will in turn accelerate their own demise. hannity, altought right about the seth rich case, is just another neocon establishment tool. I hope they fire him. The death of legacy corporate media cannot come soon enough
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How does the whole "If a President get's a gift it belongs to the Government not the President" thing work. Is that a real thing because I am gonna laugh so hard when Trump and them leave take poo poo then have to give it back. Pretty sure that happened to the Clintons.
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RandomBlue posted:Gonna crush that Paris climate deal like Macron crushed his tiny hands! I like how it looks like he's nursing his hand in that picture
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:Fox news downfall will pull cnn / msnbc and the likes to the right as they try to attrack whats left of its dying viewerbase, wich will in turn accelerate their own demise. hannity, altought right about the seth rich case, is just another neocon establishment tool. I hope they fire him. The death of legacy corporate media cannot come soon enough 
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