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Bad Coop also had some remnants of what definitely looked like corn kernels on his dish at the diner when he was meeting with his henchmen.
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precision posted:Does it matter if it's stock footage? The drum tracks on Dead Cities were originally recorded for Tougher Than Leather (and nobody in Run-DMC plays drums, either). Dont think youre refering to me, but i just wanted to know where you see if there is stock footage in a show or not.
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It doesn't matter to me that it's stock footage, I only mentioned it because of the posts that were propping Lynch out for having shot it. As director, Lynch definitely deserves props for integrating it into the show, particularly the way that he paired that image with his sound design. The shot did rule, and it definitely set the tone and the mood for those New York scenes. I only knew that it was stock footage because I had read on another forum that someone had almost bought that footage for his own project, and he recognized it. https://www.shutterstock.com/video/...l/13559366:1/3p
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May 28, 2017 01:37
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The black stuff that Bad Coop horks up could be the same as the "scorched engine oil" that's in the pool at Glastonbury Grove.
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May 28, 2017 02:16
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PantsOptional posted:The black stuff that Bad Coop horks up could be the same as the "scorched engine oil" that's in the pool at Glastonbury Grove. Oh my God. He puked up Georgia Coffee.
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May 28, 2017 02:57
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More of a shower thought than anything, but I like how Coop goes from the Black Lodge into a casino full of "one armed bandits"!
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May 28, 2017 03:04
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I gotta say that after watching the first 4 episodes 3 times, I'm really wanting to watch Fire Walk With Me again (probably for the 10th time) just to revisit all of the garmonbozia and owl ring information. It's stupid how thoroughly this show sucks me in.
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Escobarbarian posted:I think my new favourite quote from the episodes so far is "Jade give two rides!" The delivery is so loving perfect. Jade gives good Coop a ride out after Doug gets a ride back to the waiting room. Note that the owl part of the ring is made of jade. 
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May 28, 2017 04:27
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Under the vegetable posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWzNOg7XRi4 Tangentially related to this - because of the video - but does anybody else think the black figure that fades away in the prision cell looks like the lumberjack looking guy above the convenience store just covered in shoe polish? At any rate, apparently that figure, whatever it is exactly, is going to show up more as the story unfolds, as per Lynch.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I like how the void is chaotic and hostile. The universe defaults to killing everything, yet still... Trump!
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Kurtofan posted:no bcs episode either At least there's a new House of Cards season coming in a few days. I'm gonna need SOMETHING to watch.
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May 28, 2017 09:19
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Neo Rasa posted:Oh my God. Nothing would make me happier than if they shot new Georgia coffee commercials updated for the 2017 episodes. "I just hit the jackpot at this casino 34 times, but I really feel like a winner after having this delicious Georgia coffee"
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Data Graham posted:And then, just as the capper, you get Lynch as Cole yelling straight at the camera to "fix your heart or die" when it comes to transphobia. Haha, I forgot about this. I think Lynch was also kind of semi-congratulating himself on being progressive enough to even have HAD a character who was, for all intents and purposes, transgendered on the original Twin Peaks. Which is really so amazing when you think about it given that we're still pretty hung up on that issue as a society, stupidly. "FIX YOUR HEART OR DIE" is Lynch's perfectly succinct summing up of this schism. I will say that Duchovney's gravelly voice took me out of that scene, though, mostly because I actually know men who have transitioned and the process of training their voices to NOT sound overtly masculine is a really big deal and a really huge part of 'passing", and if Denise had really been on Hormones for 25 years and living as a woman, she'd be talking like a woman her age would take, especially after all that time. But I'm nitpicking a little. Also, Duchovney just ain't got that gorgeous pretty face and flawless skin like back in '92... Sad but true... kaworu fucked around with this message at 12:28 on May 28, 2017 |
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kaworu posted:I will say that Duchovney's gravelly voice took me out of that scene, though, mostly because I actually know men who have transitioned and the process of training their voices to NOT sound overtly masculine is a really big deal and a really huge part of 'passing", and if Denise had really been on Hormones for 25 years and living as a woman, she'd be talking like a woman her age would take, especially after all that time. But I'm nitpicking a little.
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Josh Lyman posted:From the original series, I got the impression that Denise was just cross-dressing, not actually undergoing a MtF sex change. You could be right, and I could be mis-remembering. My recollection was that Denise had been cross-dressing because of an undercover investigation, and discovered that she found life preferable overall living and presenting and dressing as a woman. Usually "crossdressing" is a term describing something someone does either for sexual reasons, for random fun (like halloween or a stage show or something) or maybe for professional reasons, like with then-Dennis in the FBI on the original assignment. But when someone dresses up in women's clothing and presents as a woman out in the world as an everyday thing (which is what Denise Bryson was doing in the original season 2 of Twin Peaks, as I understood), then that's basically a description of what transgenderism is, more or less. I mean, it was 1991/92, so obviously they were a bit clumsy about it, but it was handled originally with a pretty amazing degree of respect. Again, it's been a few years since I saw the original Denise Bryson scenes so I could easily be mis-remembering things. Also, I'm not really sure quite what you mean by a "sex change". Some transgendered people undergo surgery eventually, and some do not. All of them generally undergo hormone therapy on a long-term basis, which certainly elicits very real physical changes without any surgery. edit: And on a *completely* random note, all of this does have me going back and looking at episodes. Something I have been wondering about is water, and it's effect on BOB and all this "electricity" business. We all know that what triggers BOB leaving Leland via massive head-wound (and pulling the 'ripcord' of his consciousness supposedly) is somehow all sparked by being drenched by the water, and we all know the memorable confession scene that's almost baptismal with Cooper holding Leland in the water while he sobs and confesses. Curiously, I actually hadn't noticed Leland referring to BOB as "they" in that confession scene before. But anyway, it just got me wondering about water. And the effect that water and electricity have together, what with this travel via electricity being so important (yet also traumatic). I also wonder about when Philip travels via electricity in Fire Walk With Me. When he returns to the hotel, it causes the guy who had been carrying Jeffris' luggage to (apparently) poo poo himself and then cry out "ARE YOU THE MAN?! ARE YOU THE MAN!?" I only note this because of the electricity travel causing vomiting in the revival, but it likely means nothing and the guy just poo poo himself from the sight of a screaming David Bowie with blood running down his face materializing out of thin air with a sonic boom. kaworu fucked around with this message at 13:31 on May 28, 2017 |
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Kurtofan posted:no bcs episode either I picked a really bad time to run out of weed. I hate that my dispensary is closed on Sundays.
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I believe that in the scripted/deleted scenes, Denise states that she's awaiting surgery, so the intention was there.
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Not bad! I always read the grandchild and the mask as an analogue for the Leland/Bob paradigm - when Bob takes over, it's as if Leland is wearing a mask like that given that when Bob is in control he cannot speak, and he cannot see, and he does not know what happens. And when the mask comes off he's Leland again, innocent Leland with no sense of what his evil BOB incarnation has been doing. I read or heard that analysis somewhere else so it's not mine, but it did make some sense to me. With the aged Laura revealing that her face is a mask for blinding whiteness, makes me think that this incarnation may be the first true "White Lodge" spirit that we've seen, or something - who the hell knows. Laura was heavily associated with angelic imagery in FWWM obviously most very prominently at the end of FWWM, and I always got the intention that Laura's soul/spirit/consciousness was not going to the Red Room or the Black Lodge or any place associated with that. There is pure white light in that scene too, where Laura is dying and sees the angel though not as blinding. But regardless, it's clear that whatever this aged and alive Laura is, it's openly serving as an avatar for some other force, and made that much known to Cooper and us. That Laura Palmer is a mask for something.... That's blindingly bright and we cannot see or understand. That's my take.
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kaworu posted:But anyway, it just got me wondering about water. And the effect that water and electricity have together, what with this travel via electricity being so important (yet also traumatic). I also wonder about when Philip travels via electricity in Fire Walk With Me. When he returns to the hotel, it causes the guy who had been carrying Jeffris' luggage to (apparently) poo poo himself and then cry out "ARE YOU THE MAN?! ARE YOU THE MAN!?" I only note this because of the electricity travel causing vomiting in the revival, but it likely means nothing and the guy just poo poo himself from the sight of a screaming David Bowie with blood running down his face materializing out of thin air with a sonic boom. He's saying "AYÚDAME" which means "HELP ME"
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Under the vegetable posted:He's saying "AYÚDAME" which means "HELP ME" Now I feel like a serious damned idiot So much for relying on subtitles.
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kaworu posted:Now I feel like a serious damned idiot I mean, everything else you said is right.
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Under the vegetable posted:I mean, everything else you said is right. Haha, I appreciate it. Apparently it was a point of some contention because the line technically wasn't in the script, and it *is* subtitled as "Are you the man?" which clearly is, well, incorrect. I found an entire thread on a Twin Peaks message board discussing this topic for two pages, and yes, it is "AYÚDAME". Yes, Mike is the man.
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kaworu posted:I only note this because of the electricity travel causing vomiting in the revival,
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Is it true that nobody actually knows if Bowie filmed any scenes for this? I keep seeing "nobody knows" but if the episodes are done how can that be kept a secret?
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I don't think it's likely, but equally no-one knew what the plot for the first 4 episodes was until a week ago, and no-one know's what's coming up, so it's not impossible.
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precision posted:Is it true that nobody actually knows if Bowie filmed any scenes for this? I keep seeing "nobody knows" but if the episodes are done how can that be kept a secret?
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Hey, we got Major Brigs for a second and he's been dead since like 2010.
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I don't want to get my hopes up either, but at the same time, it seems odd that Lynch wouldn't have re-shot or at least dialed back all the referenced to Bowie's character if he never even shows up. Much less likely: the people I've seen claiming that Michael Anderson actually does eventually show up.
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May 28, 2017 22:03
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What are the odds of the real Sherrif Truman showing up?
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wa27 posted:What are the odds of the real Sherrif Truman showing up? Well, everything for the past two years has talked about him declining to return, because he's retired. If he did return it would be completely unexpected. So...who knows?
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TheMaestroso posted:Well, everything for the past two years has talked about him declining to return, because he's retired. If he did return it would be completely unexpected. So...who knows? Oh, was he out there saying that? I seem to remember him saying he was excited to return, and then he was surprisingly absent from the cast list. It is kind of weird that they went out of the way to say "there's two Sherrif Trumans!" instead of just recasting.
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I don't think it's weird at all since recasting is generally more distracting.
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wa27 posted:Oh, was he out there saying that? I seem to remember him saying he was excited to return, and then he was surprisingly absent from the cast list. That was the case, and then he suddenly couldn't do it, giving no reason why.
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Wasn't there a rumor that Tim Roth would be playing a re-cast Jefferies?
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Wasn't there a rumor that Tim Roth would be playing a re-cast Jefferies? That doesn't seem likely to me, considering they straight up replaced Truman with his brother in-universe because Michael Ontkean was unavailable. Lynch really took major steps to not re-cast anyone other than Donna and the brain tree/dancing man.
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Ehhh, with the way this show deals with supernatural elements, it's easy enough to recast but give it a rational explanation like the Lodge's magic changed his body.
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