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twice burned ice posted:This is really insidious. Matt Bevin in Kentucky is doing a similar thing. Only talking via Facebook not talking to press. Expect it to be spread and be way scarier when more competent politicians utilize that technique.
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twice burned ice posted:This is really insidious. Pretty sure they think like this already and Donny T is just bitching out any potential lawyers who suggest vetting his moron tweets.
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twice burned ice posted:This is really insidious. Considering the only 'news' he ever shares is that everyone else is lying, I'm not even sure what he expects his base to believe. Everything Trump says is about the future - things are going to be great, things are just going to be awesome if we do X, Y, or Z. Everyone once in a while he farts out some story about more jobs at some company that may or may not even exist but most of his tweets are just pure denials. His base is dumb but 'everyone is a liar except me!' only works so many times before people start to question it.
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I mean people will be paying alot more to health insurance companies under any Republican plan so it will put more dollars into those companies coffers I suppose. Of course the real reason he said that is he knows absolutely nothing about healthcare the same as he knows nothing about anything else and is just saying "Me am da greatest" over and over again.
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May 29, 2017 01:41
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It's interesting that Trump's tweets have been steadily declining in retweets and favorites for months now.
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May 29, 2017 01:42
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Javes posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/868979531641741313 Yes, we'll make it even worse, then throw money at it and tada...*pile of poo poo*
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May 29, 2017 01:44
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Mendrian posted:Everything Trump says is about the future - things are going to be great, things are just going to be awesome if we do X, Y, or Z. He doesn't even go that far, he just claims he has ideas and then that's it. Just like the debates where he stood on stage and stated he so did have a plan for healthcare, and that plan was to fix it. And he had plans to MAGA, and those plans were to MAGA. Once he got in office he put those problems on everyone else because he had no ideas or plans and they are in the process of cocking it all up as a result.
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May 29, 2017 01:49
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Mendrian posted:Considering the only 'news' he ever shares is that everyone else is lying, I'm not even sure what he expects his base to believe. The right wing media machine has been pulling that line for 30 years.
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May 29, 2017 01:49
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SocketWrench posted:Yes, we'll make it even worse, then throw money at it and tada...*pile of poo poo* "In other news, all of the medical insurance and pharmaceutical companies formed the 'Legion of Doom' today and bought the island nation of Fiji to be their new lair."
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https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/868986118204604416 I would tune in for that! Maybe Cernovich is secretly working to bring Trump down after all. Attempting to Skype with your senile grandpa who happens to be President would really pull back the curtain.
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May 29, 2017 01:59
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Mendrian posted:Considering the only 'news' he ever shares is that everyone else is lying, I'm not even sure what he expects his base to believe. Trump doesn't talk about what he has accomplished because there's other voices on his side that do it. Look at poo poo people like Mike Cernovich, PJ Watson (he appears to have fallen back in line after hating Trump for the Syria strikes), Jim Hoft, and Bill Mitchell post. Saying Trump's stupid and isn't talking about anything he's accomplished because he hasn't accomplished anything kind of misses the point. Trump's just a hype-man for his poo poo. Talking about what he will do, how he's right and everybody else is wrong and that will be revealed in time, and poo poo like that is what he's good at and it's what his base eats up. For actually saying he's accomplished poo poo and wording it in a way that they eat up he has plenty of sycophants and apologists waiting in the wings to take up that banner.j Edit: Illuminti posted:https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/868986118204604416 Cernovich is frustrated at how poorly Trump's team handles poo poo. He isn't stepping out of line in any real way and he's going to not mention this ever again in a week.
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Javes posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/868979531641741313 I bet he really thinks you can magically drop off a bunch of money in a box labeled "Healthcare" and everything gets solved. Note he doesn't specify giving that additional money to pharmaceuticals, or doctors or gasp even to the American public.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It's interesting that Trump's tweets have been steadily declining in retweets and favorites for months now. Russian bots are busy in Europe.
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They've actually done an unbelievably good job of outreach and messaging, it's just that their message is 'gently caress literally everybody except the very very very very very very very very very very very rich' and the outreach is a hand reaching to punch you in the face. But they've done an amazing job of it because they still have so many people who would literally believe anything trump says at all no matter how retarded it is.
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Hastings posted:I bet he really thinks you can magically drop off a bunch of money in a box labeled "Healthcare" and everything gets solved. Note he doesn't specify giving that additional money to pharmaceuticals, or doctors or gasp even to the American public. His moronic followers will believe him, even as their healthcare plans go up in cost tenfold.
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SocketWrench posted:He doesn't even go that far, he just claims he has ideas and then that's it. Just like the debates where he stood on stage and stated he so did have a plan for healthcare, and that plan was to fix it. And he had plans to MAGA, and those plans were to MAGA. Once he got in office he put those problems on everyone else because he had no ideas or plans and they are in the process of cocking it all up as a result. That just really sums up the entire GOP right now, all told. Obamacare wasn't perfect so we have to repeal it and replace it! With what? Uhhhhh...SOMETHING BETTER!!!! It will cover more people and be cheaper and be better and nobody will die ever again. People are still dying because Obama looooooooves death! They really, really didn't expect to be handed full power of every branch. Now that they have it they have to poo poo or get off the pot, as it were. Turns out that they didn't have a plan, their promises were mostly empty, and running a country is actually kind of difficult. It requires the government to Do Things but they've been running on a platform of "the government must not be allowed to Do Things." Fulchrum posted:The reason for so many problems in America is largely because people keep saying "politicians" in cases where they should be saying "Republicans". "Republicans" always break their campaign promises. "Republicans" just want to seize more power and don't care about average Americans. "Republicans" only listen to their corporate masters and will never do anything to offend them. While this is true the simple fact is you basically just can't get elected to any high office without a poo poo load of money. That money comes from Wall Street. There are some exceptions here and there but the federal government is bought and paid for. Between that and billionaires dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into propaganda machines it's currently a political impossibility to do something that doesn't directly benefit the very rich. Now that that is nakedly obvious of course people are pretty miffed but the simple fact is our democracy no longer works. America is, at this particular moment, not a democracy. The rich get whatever they want and the rest of us get the bill.
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empty whippet box posted:They've actually done an unbelievably good job of outreach and messaging, it's just that their message is 'gently caress literally everybody except the very very very very very very very very very very very rich' and the outreach is a hand reaching to punch you in the face. But they've done an amazing job of it because they still have so many people who would literally believe anything trump says at all no matter how retarded it is. No, that's the *result* of their policies. Their actual message is "white straight men are the most awesome people. Everyone else sucks" which is a consistent vote winner in every democracy ever (though swap out the local dominant majority for "white" where appropriate.)
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ToxicSlurpee posted:While this is true the simple fact is you basically just can't get elected to any high office without a poo poo load of money. That money comes from Wall Street. There are some exceptions here and there but the federal government is bought and paid for. Between that and billionaires dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into propaganda machines it's currently a political impossibility to do something that doesn't directly benefit the very rich. Now that that is nakedly obvious of course people are pretty miffed but the simple fact is our democracy no longer works. America is, at this particular moment, not a democracy. The rich get whatever they want and the rest of us get the bill. And yet the rich still spend hundreds of millions trying to destroy Democrats. You're confusing "the rich are not all put in the stocks and horsewhipped" with "the rich get whatever they want'. What they want is tax cuts and no regulation on their businesses, and only Republicans give them that.
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Fulchrum posted:And yet the rich still spend hundreds of millions trying to destroy Democrats. You're confusing "the rich are not all put in the stocks and horsewhipped" with "the rich get whatever they want'. What they want is tax cuts and no regulation on their businesses, and only Republicans give them that. Well aware but really, do you expect even a Democrat-controlled government, if it actually happened, to actually properly tax the rich? They won't. While they at least try to do something other than actively make things worse they can't do a hell of a lot to make things better either. At the federal level, anyway; it seems like the super rich just don't give a poo poo what blue states do so long as it's contained to blue states.
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Hastings posted:I bet he really thinks you can magically drop off a bunch of money in a box labeled "Healthcare" and everything gets solved. Note he doesn't specify giving that additional money to pharmaceuticals, or doctors or gasp even to the American public. if he ends up legalizing weed and using the taxes to fund healthcare id lol
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Well aware but really, do you expect even a Democrat-controlled government, if it actually happened, to actually properly tax the rich? They won't. While they at least try to do something other than actively make things worse they can't do a hell of a lot to make things better either. At the federal level, anyway; it seems like the super rich just don't give a poo poo what blue states do so long as it's contained to blue states. Obamacare includes billions in taxes on the rich. That's why they absolutely despise it. I mean, you do get why slashing taxes is used by the GOP as their main differentiator, right? You see what I mean? Instead of Republicans don't want to raise taxes on the rich, its that all politicians don't want to raise taxes on the rich, in spite of the evidence.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Well aware but really, do you expect even a Democrat-controlled government, if it actually happened, to actually properly tax the rich? They won't. While they at least try to do something other than actively make things worse they can't do a hell of a lot to make things better either. At the federal level, anyway; it seems like the super rich just don't give a poo poo what blue states do so long as it's contained to blue states. Why would they not care? They tend to live in blue states, as blue states tend to have what makes rich guys happy - opera houses, golf courses, international airports, that sort of thing. It's more fun to be rich in Manhattan than South Dakota.
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You really need to just stop validating trump's dementia and not look at his tweets. Twitter is the means of which finally made him "important" or else he'll tweet something mean about you. With the destruction of net newtrality, it isn't going to be worth paying premiums to have the internet to tweet memes, much less afford much of anything we can have access too.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Well aware but really, do you expect even a Democrat-controlled government, if it actually happened, to actually properly tax the rich? They won't. While they at least try to do something other than actively make things worse they can't do a hell of a lot to make things better either. At the federal level, anyway; it seems like the super rich just don't give a poo poo what blue states do so long as it's contained to blue states. Anything we point to that the democrats do, or plan to do, you'll say isn't properly taxing the rich. also funny - if he does, somehow, plan to throw money at the ahca to make it not suck, they can't pass it through reconciliation
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Well aware but really, do you expect even a Democrat-controlled government, if it actually happened, to actually properly tax the rich? They won't. While they at least try to do something other than actively make things worse they can't do a hell of a lot to make things better either. At the federal level, anyway; it seems like the super rich just don't give a poo poo what blue states do so long as it's contained to blue states. Our policy must go beyond being partisan. We must make policy because they do the right thing for everyone, the poison they use against collectivism is the whole concept that it is somehow impossible for a collective to come to a better conclusion than an individual. This concept is frankly counter to our aspired ideals.
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BarbarianElephant posted:Why would they not care? They tend to live in blue states, as blue states tend to have what makes rich guys happy - opera houses, golf courses, international airports, that sort of thing. It's more fun to be rich in Manhattan than South Dakota. At least not since they blew up that Diamond as big as the Ritz
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SocketWrench posted:Yes, we'll make it even worse, then throw money at it and tada...*pile of poo poo* I'll be honest, if they solved the dumb high risk pools (and maybe state Medicaid block grants?) by just pouring in dump trucks full of money, that is a thing I would be fine with. Back door single payer for the chronically conditioned!  It's not like he gives a poo poo about actually making that happen though.
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This'll end like Gaddafi, not so much in the assassination via sodomy, but a crazed leader believing their own bullshit . https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/868996867660673024
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Aurubin posted:This'll end like Gaddafi, not so much in the assassination via sodomy, but a crazed leader believing their own bullshit . All you need to do is start making them see traitors in Bannon and DeVos. All Americans are cannibals in their most primal nature.
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Aurubin posted:This'll end like Gaddafi, not so much in the assassination via sodomy, but a crazed leader believing their own bullshit . The Kushner stuff must be getting to him.
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Can't wait for bunker time! Just Bannon and Trump hiding from the deep state. Two pills and one revolver.
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Hastings posted:I bet he really thinks you can magically drop off a bunch of money in a box labeled "Healthcare" and everything gets solved. Note he doesn't specify giving that additional money to pharmaceuticals, or doctors or gasp even to the American public. No, he doesn't think that. His plan is to cut $1 trillion from health care and give it to his rich Republican friends. He really thinks you can say "we're going to give a ton of money to healthcare, more than you've ever seen", and fat white America will think it's happening even as he slaps the insulin needles right out of our veins and shovels our healthcare money right into the pockets of Wall Street. Also he is 100% correct about this.
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Crabtree posted:All you need to do is start making them see traitors in Bannon and DeVos. All Americans are cannibals in their most primal nature. Don't forget Pruitt and Supreme Elf Sessions.
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Every time I see this map I wonder what a polar parasite is.
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Aurubin posted:This'll end like Gaddafi, not so much in the assassination via sodomy, but a crazed leader believing their own bullshit . Reading the full story it seems increasingly like the narcissism of Trump is going to be his fall, he seems to be unable to focus on anything else, to the point that the executive branch of the government could be pulled into it at every level and it wouldn't be entirely implausible that the 25th would be needed simply because the old man has cracked up and won't talk about anything else. Also he sincerely believes the stories are fake because everyone is loyal to him, it is an entire thieves guild of sociopaths unable to understand empathy or loyalty and think that they can just settle their way out of the pure disdain and hostility serious people have for them.
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VitalSigns posted:No, he doesn't think that. His plan is to cut $1 trillion from health care and give it to his rich Republican friends. Yeah. They believe what they are told and what fits their narrative. Not what they see. Also most Trump voters are conventionally employed or retired, not self employed or working multiple part time jobs. So they won't see the instant "OMG my healthcare just went up tenfold."
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Internet Kraken posted:Every time I see this map I wonder what a polar parasite is. The Thing?
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I like that Garrison accurately draws Trump's inability to wear a tie properly.
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Jealous Cow posted:
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