Pener Kropoopkin posted:They were democratically elected So was Trump??
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May 30, 2017 01:57
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Hezbollah have historically been very good at taking care of the Israel problem - imperialism thats a bad opinion and you should feel bad
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May 30, 2017 01:58
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They were democratically elected since when is that something you value?
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May 30, 2017 01:59
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Eela6 posted:So was Trump?? Trump is the legitimate President of the United States, yeah.. Top City Homo posted:thats a bad opinion and you should feel bad So you're pro Israeli occupation of Lebanon or what?
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May 30, 2017 02:11
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Trump is the legitimate President of the United States, yeah.. thats a complicated question but i am not pro islamic clerical fascism so i dont cheer hezbollah .
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May 30, 2017 02:12
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Top City Homo posted:thats a complicated question but i am not pro islamic clerical fascism so i dont cheer hezbollah . Hezbollah may be a right wing Islamic organization but they're not fascists. There are Christian and Druze members of Hezbollah.
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May 30, 2017 02:32
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They were democratically elected That's a damning indictment of their constituents.
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May 30, 2017 02:33
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hakimashou posted:That's a damning indictment of their constituents. It's more that Hamas was actually offering very basic social services in Gaza, which Fatah had notoriously failed to do. Without offering any endorsement or approval of Hamas itself, I have a hard time blaming people under such desperate circumstances from grasping the only hand offered them.
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May 30, 2017 02:40
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hakimashou posted:That's a damning indictment of their constituents. Not sure if Brits or Americans can really speak from a position of moral authority on sound democratic governance these days.
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May 30, 2017 02:40
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disappointed that c yn didn't tell that small business guy that he was destined for the gulags
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May 30, 2017 02:42
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I can only imagine what kind of hellish fascist we'd elect if we were under real existential threat from a more powerful neighbor.
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May 30, 2017 02:42
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Vox Nihili posted:I can only imagine what kind of hellish fascist we'd elect if we were under real existential threat from a more powerful neighbor. Let Scotland go independent and we can find out.
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May 30, 2017 02:44
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the only military threat from an independent scotland would be a bunch of invasive grass species from the highlands
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May 30, 2017 02:50
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Vox Nihili posted:Not sure if Brits or Americans can really speak from a position of moral authority on sound democratic governance these days. The american people were wise, millions more voted for hillary!
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May 30, 2017 02:53
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I'm deeply disappointed that corbyn didnt end his television performance with "Make June the End of May!" If he had done that I'd never have said another bad thing about him, even if he loses.
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May 30, 2017 02:54
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*Corbyn goes on the BBC to talk about Israel-Palestine* "You see, when Hamas talks about 'driving the filthy Jew into the sea and drowning him with his children' what they're really talking about is how coloniali
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May 30, 2017 02:56
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for all of america's fuckery i feel better anytime i look at england and your clusterfuck of politics
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May 30, 2017 03:02
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Fallen Hamprince posted:*Corbyn goes on the BBC to talk about Israel-Palestine* "You see, when Hamas talks about 'driving the filthy Jew into the sea and drowning him with his children' what they're really talking about is how coloniali lmbo
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May 30, 2017 03:09
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Hezbollah may be a right wing Islamic organization but they're not fascists. There are Christian and Druze members of Hezbollah. and there were Jewish members in the Fascist party in Italy. its an Iranian supported front organization and trying to frame them as anything but bad really fucks up the idea of "fighting imperialism"
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May 30, 2017 03:10
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Top City Homo posted:and there were Jewish members in the Fascist party in Italy. The Italian Fascists weren't phenotypically racist, but nationally racist - so of course they would tolerate Italian Jews if they were willing to serve the fascist state. Islamic fascism would be a movement that wouldn't tolerate any forms of non-Islamic practice, yet Hezbollah defends Lebanese Christians and Druze from ISIS. Saying that they're a front organization is also seriously ignorant. I guess you'd say that the Houthi are an "front organization" too.
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May 30, 2017 03:20
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There are few good guys or bad guys in the Middle East, or for that matter in most conflicts. ISIS are baddies and pretty much the whole world is in agreement there but everything else is shades of gray.
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May 30, 2017 03:44
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Italian Fascists weren't phenotypically racist, but nationally racist - so of course they would tolerate Italian Jews if they were willing to serve the fascist state. Islamic fascism would be a movement that wouldn't tolerate any forms of non-Islamic practice, yet Hezbollah defends Lebanese Christians and Druze from ISIS. Saying that they're a front organization is also seriously ignorant. I guess you'd say that the Houthi are an "front organization" too. Hezbollah has been cultivated by Iran and Syria though.  The houthis are more complicated because of the geographic distance and the distinctiveness of their Shia Islam.
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May 30, 2017 03:53
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Italian Fascists weren't phenotypically racist, but nationally racist - so of course they would tolerate Italian Jews if they were willing to serve the fascist state. that's my point quote:Islamic fascism would be a movement that wouldn't tolerate any forms of non-Islamic practice, yet Hezbollah defends Lebanese Christians and Druze from ISIS. They don't control the state yet. But their districts in Beirut are run like Iranian style theocratic cantons. Hezbollah is an extension of Iranian influence and they are fighting against "Sunni" fundamentalists (ISIS), while their brand of fundamentalism is Iranian Shia. So they are in a turf war and they don't want to poo poo in their backyard by alienating their compatriots, for now. But their ideology is at the minimum, Iranian theocracy. That's what awaits Lebanon if they take over. just read the most basic stuff about HIzbollah and you will find that its like an Iranian version of the Contras https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah quote:Hezbollah was conceived by Muslim clerics and funded by Iran primarily to harass the Israeli occupation. Its leaders were followers of Ayatollah Khomeini, and its forces were trained and organized by a contingent of 1,500 Revolutionary Guards that arrived from Iran with permission from the Syrian government. quote:Saying that they're a front organization is also seriously ignorant. I guess you'd say that the Houthi are an "front organization" too. look mate, its simple PKK=good IRA=good Houthis with their slogan "God is great, death to the US, death to Israel, curse the Jews, and victory for Islam" can go gently caress themselves to death Also, the Ukranian Insurrectionary Army was bad a guerilla army, or being the underdog doesn't automatically make you the good guy Top City Homo has issued a correction as of 04:05 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 04:01
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whether or not labour wins in the end im glad corbyn's numbers are at least close enough now to clear out all the dipshit lunatic goons that spent the last four weeks agreeing with basically all of his policy positions while still whining about him being unelectable the post-election aftermath is still going to be a pain in the rear end, but i'll burn that bridge when i get to it
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May 30, 2017 04:18
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Top City Homo posted:
lol what the gently caress. trot spotted.
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May 30, 2017 05:08
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Fullhouse posted:disappointed that c So where should they build those?
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May 30, 2017 05:49
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Top City Homo posted:that's my point Anyone who launches missles at Riyahd isn't completely irredeemable.
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May 30, 2017 05:52
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Lawman 0 posted:Hezbollah has been cultivated by Iran and Syria though. Being supported by foreign powers doesn't make them "front" organizations. The implication that they're a front would imply that they have no legitimate support among the local people they govern, which is absolutely not the case. Top City Homo posted:that's my point Your point is poo poo. "Islamic clerical fascism" has a very specific implication which Hezbollah does not meet. Iranian Theocracy doesn't even meet the definition of fascism. quote:That's what awaits Lebanon if they take over. Considering Iran is at least an "Islamic Republic" that grants protections to its minority communities, there are far worse fates for Lebanon in the middle east. Ayatollah Khomeini even issued a fatwa that it is forbidden to attack Jews. quote:look mate, its simple Nothing about the Middle East is simple, or clear cut. The only person being simple here is you, by uncritically regurgitating Israeli & American propaganda about Hezbollah. Comparing them to the contras is one of the most idiotic things you've ever said.
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May 30, 2017 06:02
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Fauxbot posted:lol what the gently caress. trot spotted. those are the banderites not the anarchists, bra
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May 30, 2017 06:07
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Top City Homo posted:those are the banderites not the anarchists, bra Makhno... was also bad 
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May 30, 2017 06:15
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Makhno... was also bad 
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May 30, 2017 07:19
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the small business owner shaking his head the entire time what a oval office lol https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/st...er%3D307%23pti1 Jose has issued a correction as of 07:32 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 07:29
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Jose posted:the small business owner shaking his head the entire time what a oval office thats good editing imo
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May 30, 2017 07:35
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anime was right posted:thats good editing imo certainly loads better than Jill Stein's democracy now! insert
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May 30, 2017 07:51
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Jose posted:the small business owner shaking his head the entire time what a oval office 
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May 30, 2017 08:32
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So the British media has collectively agreed the proper response to the debate was simply to... lie about, I guess. Thats pretty impressive I have to say. Corbyn really is doing quite good considering he has the entire media against him
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May 30, 2017 08:47
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GlyphGryph posted:So the British media has collectively agreed the proper response to the debate was simply to... lie about, I guess. i want them all to die
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May 30, 2017 09:13
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i mean the people involved as well as the organisations
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May 30, 2017 09:20
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just accept trump into your heart
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May 30, 2017 09:45
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Listening to that woman's hour interview live was painful, he just fell silent and tried to look up the policy on his ipad.
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