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Gustav posted:Trump said lots and lots of nice things on the campaign trail. He said bad things too, but lots of very nice things. Massive spending on infrastructure is one promise I don't expect Trump to break. Like, at all. It'd be a perfect opportunity to launch grand, self-promoting projects and direct wads of cash towards friendly organizations and donors. Trump is a real estate developer. Literally the one specific thing he has experience and qualifications for. E: belated dogge  Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 13:20 on May 30, 2017 |
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Fruits of the sea posted:Massive spending on infrastructure is one promise I don't expect Trump to break. Like, at all. It'd be a perfect opportunity to launch grand, self-promoting projects and direct wads of cash towards friendly organizations and donors. Trump is a real estate developer. Literally the one specific thing he has experience and qualifications for. He won't do that with the republican congress though. They're not going to okay anything. Maybe when the Dems retake in 2018; by that point he'll be desperate to sign something and have a ceremony. Or he'll reflexively veto everything because its by the democrats.
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May 30, 2017 13:06
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FizFashizzle posted:The United States is not at war with the Syrian government? In that case, Turkey declared war and the US assisted alongside France.
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May 30, 2017 13:07
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Fruits of the sea posted:Massive spending on infrastructure is one promise I don't expect Trump to break. Like, at all. It'd be a perfect opportunity to launch grand, self-promoting projects and direct wads of cash towards friendly organizations and donors. Trump is a real estate developer. Literally the one specific thing he has experience and qualifications for. He's already broken it and is doing the opposite, selling of public lands.
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Fruits of the sea posted:Massive spending on infrastructure is one promise I don't expect Trump to break. Like, at all. It'd be a perfect opportunity to launch grand, self-promoting projects and direct wads of cash towards friendly organizations and donors. Trump is a real estate developer. Literally the one specific thing he has experience and qualifications for. You've fallen into one of his con traps. Infrastructure spending means selling off public infrastructure for development by private jackasses. The 'investments' come from tax cuts to develop the land instead of actually spending anything. So basically toll roads and for profit everything.
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In TrumpLand, it's not the heinous policies and unhinged Twitter rants that are the problem, it's just how they're communicated.
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May 30, 2017 13:11
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Flowers For Algeria posted:I got a hospital in Afghanistan (a humanitarian-operated hospital in Afghanistan, no less) to remind you of. What part of object of attack is especially confusing to you? You do understand that the whole loving point of a war crime is it has to be intentional, not an error, right? As for the rest of your points, self righteous wanking about not closing Gitmo in spite of Congress rendering that impossible. Yeah, you sure aren't devaluing the loving atrocities up there by trying to prove he's technically committed something that if you drink heavily, almost sounds like a war crime. Gotta make sure we all know that Obama really is just as bad as Hitler. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 13:21 on May 30, 2017 |
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Tarantula posted:Pretty sure America does that. Those last two words are kind of important. This is talking about blowing up the goddamn Louvre, or ISIS destroying ancient sites, just because they can. It is not about forcing soldiers to say "uh oh, he went inside a building. Well, guess we need to give up." Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 13:22 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 13:15
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Who is Michael Dubke and what does matter that he quits? Director of communications. It's a pretty substantial position, and he was almost certainly ordered to "submit his resignation."
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GOOCHY posted:In TrumpLand, it's not the heinous policies and unhinged Twitter rants that are the problem, it's just how they're communicated. That's been the GOP guiding principle since 2009.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Who is Michael Dubke and what does matter that he quits? The White House Communications Director is basically responsible for crafting the messaging surrounding the agenda of the administration (together with other members of a president's close staff) and for ensuring that that message is communicated in a way that is both clear to the public and politically beneficial to the President. Can't say specifically anything about Michael Dubke, but that's what the job is supposed to do. If Trump really wanted to go all-in on being a fascist, he'd appoint some Josef Goebbels type, as that's what the position could devolve into pretty easily.
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Fulchrum posted:What part of object of attack is especially confusing to you? You do understand that the whole loving point of a war crime is it has to be intentional, not an error, right? Look at this post.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Look at this post. Right, its me trying to explain nuance to a smug dumbass.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:He's already broken it and is doing the opposite, selling of public lands. Yeah, like...if you expect him to actually build rather than loot and put his name on it, I dunno what you're thinking.
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Fulchrum posted:Right, its me trying to explain nuance to a smug dumbass. It's you engaging in desperate apologia for war crimes committed by the Obama administration on the tune of "oh it's not that bad", "no but there's worse elsewhere" and "well you can't call us Hitler." It's classic D&D.
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VitalSigns posted:The President is awake Yeah, if there's anything the people in Europe want it's Germany with a large military
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May 30, 2017 13:29
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SocketWrench posted:Yeah, if there's anything the people in Europe want it's Germany with a large military I mean, as much as it pains me to say it, he's not wrong in that regard. The German military is an absolute joke. A year or two ago there was a big to-do when one of the major news magazines did a report on how few Tornado fighter-bombers the German air force has that are actually able to fly, versus those that have just been completely neglected or just outright broken. Germany also spends around 1.2% of its GDP on defense, when the NATO guideline is explicitly 2%. Of course, that's also a LOOOOOOOOOOONG way away from his claiming that Germany "owes" (that's not how the alliance works) and his temper tantrums about it are ultimately going to mean the end of NATO.
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Drone posted:I mean, as much as it pains me to say it, he's not wrong in that regard. The German military is an absolute joke. I think that's a good thing.
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Mustached Demon posted:I think that's a good thing. The death of NATO, or not spending money on militaries? Ideologically one of these is good, the other one is extremely dumb. Da, tovarisch?
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Fruits of the sea posted:Massive spending on infrastructure is one promise I don't expect Trump to break. Like, at all. It'd be a perfect opportunity to launch grand, self-promoting projects and direct wads of cash towards friendly organizations and donors. Trump is a real estate developer. Literally the one specific thing he has experience and qualifications for. Yes, but unlike the business market, when he demands to build doesn't mean people go build. He has to get that poo poo past the Senate and Congress who are more likely to poo poo on it because *no immediate effect on pockets*
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Drone posted:The death of NATO, or not spending money on militaries? One where a strong NATO prevents a strong German military.
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Well, when NATO ends the German government will finally be forced to spend more on their military.SocketWrench posted:Yeah, if there's anything the people in Europe want it's Germany with a large military Make the Fatherland great again.
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Mustached Demon posted:One where a strong NATO prevents a strong German military. To keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down? 
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Flowers For Algeria posted:It's you engaging in desperate apologia for war crimes committed by the Obama administration on the tune of "oh it's not that bad", "no but there's worse elsewhere" and "well you can't call us Hitler." And you are engaging in desperate Rallian "Obama? You mean THE NEW HITLER!" "...Drones?" bullshit because you cannot get it through your thick skull that war crimes are very very very bad things that are treated seriously and not something that you just apply based off of if you want to feel smug and can torture logic enough to misunderstand the criteria. Its classic dumbfuck leftist. Its amazing how you don't need to misunderstand everything about the sentence or completely divorce it from all meaning to understand Bush's war crime. It forbids torture. He engaged in torture. Very open and shut. Meanwhile, to justify calling Obama a war criminal, you need to somehow call targetted precision drone strikes indiscriminate attack. I.e. loving carpet bombing.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:When America pulls out will it be NEATO? Holy gently caress username + pun combo.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Who is Michael Dubke and what does matter that he quits? Toby Ziegler
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Who is Michael Dubke and what does matter that he quits? The mastermind behind the Trump team's media efforts. Maybe pushes Spicer closer to a stroke if he has to fill both positions again.
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We're getting a press briefing from Spicer today at 2 PM, the first one in over two weeks, so there's that to look forward to!
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Drone posted:To keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down? Actual yeah I think that was the purpose of NATO.
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You're the only one dragging Hitler into this, Fulchrum.
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Not only am I back at work, but Trump is still President. God, what a week.
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Drone posted:I mean, as much as it pains me to say it, he's not wrong in that regard. The German military is an absolute joke. Upkeeping your military is one thing. Growing it into some effective powerhouse on it's own like Trump implies is another. And I'm sure Europe (including Germany) has an ongoing stigma when it comes to Germany with a large military.
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Mustached Demon posted:Actual yeah I think that was the purpose of NATO. 
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Fulchrum posted:And you are engaging in desperate Rallian "Obama? You mean THE NEW HITLER!" "...Drones?" bullshit because you cannot get it through your thick skull that war crimes are very very very bad things that are treated seriously and not something that you just apply based off of if you want to feel smug and can torture logic enough to misunderstand the criteria. Its classic dumbfuck leftist. You know you're arguing with someone that likely voted Johnson to be an edgelord, if they're even old enough to vote at all
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Flowers For Algeria posted:You're the only one dragging Hitler into this, Fulchrum. No, invoking war crimes is dragging Hitler into this, since that's the level you are claiming Obama is on.
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