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farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Pakled posted:

My dad bought a fuckton of guns during the Obama years and when he passes away, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with them all. I don't want em and I know it would be better for society​ if I just destroyed them, but on the other hand, I'd probably make something in the high four digit range selling them all.

Send them to Africa as part of an aid package. It's the American thing to do.

farraday fucked around with this message at 17:48 on May 30, 2017

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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Would it bother you if one of the guns you sold was later used in a homicide or other violent crime?

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Mozi posted:

Would it bother you if one of the guns you sold was later used in a homicide or other violent crime?

this is why ya gotta give me that patty melt

only the patty, bread, and cheese are guns

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Night10194 posted:

Wait, wasn't that Carter Page?

Or have MORE THAN ONE of Trump's people done that? :psyduck:

Well, Carter Page public confessed to being the guy who a couple of Russian Spies were laughing about for being so stupid and desperate to be Russian that they could get anything from him, and him already having passing on stuff to them. But in Page's defense at least a reporter asked him the question before he confirmed it. And also in fairness Page appears to have been too much of a laughable stooge to have even ingratiated himself into the Trump Campaign/Administration beyond a surface level.

As I remember it Cohn just apropos of nothing boasted to a reporter about how he had a secret meeting with a Russian delegate who game him a policy package about Ukraine and Russian sanctions that he hand delivered to Michael Flynn. Then when that became a big scandal he claimed the reporter made it up and told a new story where it all still happened but now he merely left the package on Flynn's desk instead of hand delivering it. Then when it came out there was audio of both interviews he introduced a third story where no such package ever existed. Then finally he said it was all made up fake news and he just ran into a Russian in the hall way or something. All within a week.

Then there's just a bunch of guys like Flynn, Sessions, and Kushner who have lied about meeting with Russians but never actually confessed until they were busted and then just said they "forgot."

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 17:50 on May 30, 2017

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

evilweasel posted:

Trump ran on raising taxes on the rich, because that is more popular than cutting them among Republican primary voters. It is a myth republican voters love tax cuts for the rich. It's only republican donors who do.

Cutting taxes on the rich has been front and center in the Republican platform for decades, and Republican voters haven't really had a problem with that so far.

kartikeya
Mar 17, 2009


Fulchrum posted:

So you've given up pretending you care at all about policy, but?


Democracy was basically destroyed anyway.

lol what?

What even makes you think this guy cares about these policies? He's said so? Has he ever put his money (literal or figurative) where his mouth is? Should we just instantly believe any random dude who happens along and says the right things? I guess if you have a penis you have an automatic trust card, because people sure as gently caress didn't trust the woman who has worked in politics her entire adult life and who actually put detailed policies on the table, because her political opinions can't evolve, she's clearly just lying, there's something about her that just isn't trustworthy, can't put my finger on it, etc.

I know next to nothing about Zuckerberg, but what I do know doesn't give me any reason to believe that 1) he actually cares about this poo poo, 2) he has any idea how to implement this poo poo, or 3) he could govern in any capacity whatsoever. Hell, Zuckerberg could be completely sincere with the perfect plans to implement every Lefty dream possible, but that's not going to mean much if he's not capable of actually delivering on that plan. Let him run for another, less powerful office and prove he has any of these capabilities at all, otherwise a presidential run just looks like a Trumpian vanity project, and that ongoing train wreck is exactly the reason for this thread.

I didn't support Bernie in the primary just because he said some nice stuff, I supported him because that stuff is what he's been advocating and working towards for years. If you get starry eyed at every random rich person with the right words on their lips you're going to get conned and disappointed a hell of a lot, and when it comes to the presidency that's not something we can afford to keep risking.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Pakled posted:

My dad bought a fuckton of guns during the Obama years and when he passes away, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with them all. I don't want em and I know it would be better for society​ if I just destroyed them, but on the other hand, I'd probably make something in the high four digit range selling them all.

Hide the guns everywhere.

You and similar families are the reason why videogames like Fallout and such have loot caches in weird places.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Night10194 posted:

Wait, wasn't that Carter Page?

Or have MORE THAN ONE of Trump's people done that? :psyduck:

Sessions also did something similar in the same hearing in which he lied under oath which is totally ok because republicans

It's incredibly obvious that trump and his team colluded with Russia, and everyone knows it, they're just hiding behind "well you don't have proof that you can use in court"

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Pakled posted:

My dad bought a fuckton of guns during the Obama years and when he passes away, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with them all. I don't want em and I know it would be better for society​ if I just destroyed them, but on the other hand, I'd probably make something in the high four digit range selling them all.

You could start your own left wing militia.

http://www.wrath-bearingtree.com/2017/03/left-must-prepare-for-violence/

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Sell them to a Democrat running for office in a red state so he can pose with them for photo ops.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Mustached Demon posted:

It'll be a lovely version like every other show they necromance up.

Looking at you, Futurama.

Some of Futurama's absolute best episodes were after the revival.

Skex
Feb 22, 2012

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

stone cold posted:

psa: own guns? dont

dont a gun

dont

Counterpoint

Grab a bigger weapon.

The left needs to get over this silly peace, love and yogurt tacos nonsense. Sometimes you have to fight and when that happens it's very useful to have weapons. So not only do I suggest getting a gun, I also suggest getting some actual training on their use.

Oh and it's probably not the worst financial investment either. prices are low because Trump won and they'll rebound as soon as a Democrat wins the White House so not only are they an investment in protections they're a pretty good financial investment as well.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

kartikeya posted:

lol what?

What even makes you think this guy cares about these policies? He's said so? Has he ever put his money (literal or figurative) where his mouth is? Should we just instantly believe any random dude who happens along and says the right things? I guess if you have a penis you have an automatic trust card, because people sure as gently caress didn't trust the woman who has worked in politics her entire adult life and who actually put detailed policies on the table, because her political opinions can't evolve, she's clearly just lying, there's something about her that just isn't trustworthy, can't put my finger on it, etc.

I know next to nothing about Zuckerberg, but what I do know doesn't give me any reason to believe that 1) he actually cares about this poo poo, 2) he has any idea how to implement this poo poo, or 3) he could govern in any capacity whatsoever. Hell, Zuckerberg could be completely sincere with the perfect plans to implement every Lefty dream possible, but that's not going to mean much if he's not capable of actually delivering on that plan. Let him run for another, less powerful office and prove he has any of these capabilities at all, otherwise a presidential run just looks like a Trumpian vanity project, and that ongoing train wreck is exactly the reason for this thread.

I didn't support Bernie in the primary just because he said some nice stuff, I supported him because that stuff is what he's been advocating and working towards for years. If you get starry eyed at every random rich person with the right words on their lips you're going to get conned and disappointed a hell of a lot, and when it comes to the presidency that's not something we can afford to keep risking.

Stop humoring the Zuckerberg idiocy. I beg of you.

Robot Hobo
May 18, 2002

robothobo.com

evilweasel posted:

you should probably sell them, you're not going to meaningfully reduce the amount of guns in circulation but taking money away from crazy people who already have tons of guns is beneficial
Also, whoever buys them was going to buy a gun anyway, but at least this way the money isn't going to the manufacturer and a gun shop.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

evilweasel posted:

Trump ran on raising taxes on the rich, because that is more popular than cutting them among Republican primary voters. It is a myth republican voters love tax cuts for the rich. It's only republican donors who do.

Then maybe they should stop voting for a group that's sole reason for existing is tax cuts for the rich.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

Skex posted:

The left needs to get over this silly peace, love and yogurt tacos nonsense.

When you know the post is gonna be really good

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Skex posted:

Counterpoint

Grab a bigger weapon.

The left needs to get over this silly peace, love and yogurt tacos nonsense. Sometimes you have to fight and when that happens it's very useful to have weapons. So not only do I suggest getting a gun, I also suggest getting some actual training on their use.

Oh and it's probably not the worst financial investment either. prices are low because Trump won and they'll rebound as soon as a Democrat wins the White House so not only are they an investment in protections they're a pretty good financial investment as well.

hey

hey

it's real cute when people assume that because you are anti gun you don't know what you're talking about but guess what, i actually come from a big sport shooting family and let me tell you

the only purpose a gun has is to destroy and time and time again people have prove that they are incapable of handling that awesome loving responsibility

people tend to:

kill themselves
kill their loved ones
cause themselves or their loved ones irreparable harm

so this isn't a peace and love thing, you horsefucker, this is a guns are loving bad thing

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

I've been thinking about John McCain lately, no small thanks to his continued wishy-washy reaction to just about everything the current administration does. My question is this: how complicit in the current state of politics will he be when viewed in the context of history? Because under his campaign we got a stunt candidate in Sara Palin, the coining of "gotcha journalism," and the creation and expansion of the Tea Party. It really feels like a lot of where we are right now was seeded during his run, yet he's not really held to task for that.

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Pakled posted:

My dad bought a fuckton of guns during the Obama years and when he passes away, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with them all. I don't want em and I know it would be better for society​ if I just destroyed them, but on the other hand, I'd probably make something in the high four digit range selling them all.

Just sell them to a responsible dealer who does background checks (ie not on Craigslist.) Life's too short to worry about that poo poo. Do they even hold their value very well?

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

stone cold posted:

hey

hey

it's real cute when people assume that because you are anti gun you don't know what you're talking about but guess what, i actually come from a big sport shooting family and let me tell you

the only purpose a gun has is to destroy and time and time again people have prove that they are incapable of handling that awesome loving responsibility

people tend to:

kill themselves
kill their loved ones
cause themselves or their loved ones irreparable harm

so this isn't a peace and love thing, you horsefucker, this is a guns are loving bad thing

People die from eating jello. They are incapable of handling that awesome loving responsibility!

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Pakled posted:

My dad bought a fuckton of guns during the Obama years and when he passes away, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with them all. I don't want em and I know it would be better for society​ if I just destroyed them, but on the other hand, I'd probably make something in the high four digit range selling them all.

Not selling a few guns makes about as much difference to gun crime as planting a tree in your yard makes to the environment.

Pinch Me Im Meming
Jun 26, 2005
General question:

How does it feel like to be an american as of right now?

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Also as a financial instrument it's probably better to invest in actual financial instruments such as the stock of gun companies.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

Pakled posted:

My dad bought a fuckton of guns during the Obama years and when he passes away, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with them all. I don't want em and I know it would be better for society​ if I just destroyed them, but on the other hand, I'd probably make something in the high four digit range selling them all.

The best thing for society is concentrating firearms in the hands of leftists and minorities, so holding on to them even if you never touch them again is exactly what you should be doing.

Pinch Me Im Meming posted:

General question:

How does it feel like to be an american as of right now?

Nothing. Half the country has lost any sense of national identity and will never get it back. We could enter into a golden age of democratic socialism today and I'd still know with full certainty that the next right-wing wave is around the corner, each one worse than the last, each one eroding everything we've worked for up til that point.

Deified Data fucked around with this message at 18:02 on May 30, 2017

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Burning_Monk posted:

People die from eating jello. They are incapable of handling that awesome loving responsibility!

I sincerely hope you don't think you are actually being humorous or insightful.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Fart City posted:

I've been thinking about John McCain lately, no small thanks to his continued wishy-washy reaction to just about everything the current administration does. My question is this: how complicit in the current state of politics will he be when viewed in the context of history? Because under his campaign we got a stunt candidate in Sara Palin, the coining of "gotcha journalism," and the creation and expansion of the Tea Party. It really feels like a lot of where we are right now was seeded during his run, yet he's not really held to task for that.

I think palin is going to be a historical afterthought tbqh. She had no lasting legacy to speak of and the reaction to obama was going to happen regardless. There was no VP pick that was going to stop them from losing.

McCain will likely be seen as someone who was passed by by republican politics.

It remains to be seen if he has a heroic final act last stand, or if he just withers away.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Pinch Me Im Meming posted:

General question:

How does it feel like to be an american as of right now?

Bad.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

Pinch Me Im Meming posted:

General question:

How does it feel like to be an american as of right now?

From a political perspective every day feels like waking up after a hangover where the world is kinda dull, your stomach feels kinda sour and everything doesn't quite feel right

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

Pinch Me Im Meming posted:

General question:

How does it feel like to be an american as of right now?

Like we're finally being honest with ourselves, but not in an AA, moment of clarity sense.

30 TO 50 FERAL HOG
Mar 2, 2005



just smh if you havent bought at least one gun, US politics aside when half of the country is underwater and you are scrounging for food in the 120 degree heat of wisconsin you are gonna wish you had some weapons

like i literally bought three rifles and two handguns in the months after trump was elected

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
e: lol I'm dumb

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

In 2020, I will invest in gun companies when whatever DEMOCRAT takes control

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

BiohazrD posted:

just smh if you havent bought at least one gun, US politics aside when half of the country is underwater and you are scrounging for food in the 120 degree heat of wisconsin you are gonna wish you had some weapons

Actually you'll probably just shoot yourself

which, would be a pretty solid option at that point.

Javes
May 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT APPEARING OFFLINE SO I DON'T HAVE TO TELL FRIENDS THEY'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY VIDEO GAME TEAM.

Blitz7x posted:

Assault rifles are literally sub $400 right now (compare this to 1000+ circa Sandy hook). It's financially irresponsible to NOT get one

Edit: lots of gun manufacturers stocked up hard for a Clinton win and whoops

I know it's bit of a semantics argument, but actual assault rifles (select fire rifles regulated under the NFA) are very expensive, in the $15,000 to $30,000 range.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

BiohazrD posted:

just smh if you havent bought at least one gun, US politics aside when half of the country is underwater and you are scrounging for food in the 120 degree heat of wisconsin you are gonna wish you had some weapons

Best thing you can do in if the situation becomes that dire is eat a bullet.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


What will the NRA do once 3D printed weapons begin to approach the quality and reliability of gun manufacturers? You can anyway print a gun, it sucks, but give it 5-10 years.

Will they side with hobbyists as an individual right? Or will they side with the manufacturers who are going to be lobbying for this to be banned?

If they do, what will NRA membership think of the orgs silence on new laws banning home printed weapons?

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Burning_Monk posted:

People die from eating jello. They are incapable of handling that awesome loving responsibility!

You do realize that there is a huge difference in the number of deaths from guns versus jello, right?

30 TO 50 FERAL HOG
Mar 2, 2005



Huzanko posted:

Best thing you can do in if the situation becomes that dire is eat a bullet.

which will be made easier by owning guns

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


B B posted:

Why do you hate America?

Nah, I just hate white people.

1-800-DOCTORB posted:

What if Ossoff bodyslams a reporter and breaks his glasses? What then?

Ossoff is built like dweeb, he'll probably bounce off the dude anyway.

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30 TO 50 FERAL HOG
Mar 2, 2005



Al Borland Corp. posted:

What will the NRA do once 3D printed weapons begin to approach the quality and reliability of gun manufacturers? You can anyway print a gun, it sucks, but give it 5-10 years.

Will they side with hobbyists as an individual right? Or will they side with the manufacturers who are going to be lobbying for this to be banned?

If they do, what will NRA membership think of the orgs silence on new laws banning home printed weapons?

theyll absolutely be against it, its not even a question.

as for the membership; youre assuming right wingers think, which is a large misstep tbh

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