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mcmagic posted:I doubt he's worse than Trump. You probably think all this techbro stuff is overblown. Trump is a bloated Boomer asshat with no real understanding of how the modern world works. Zuck has been at the wheel of the most powerful social media company, has gobs more money, and is basically the same raw id squeezed into a lovely pullover and sandals.
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stone cold posted:hey Gun's are not a bad thing, it's the fascist rear end in a top hat behind one that is the bad thing. A gun on it's own is just a hunk of metal, with bullets it's a hunk of metal with bullets still not a bad thing. People and their intentions are what make a thing including guns good or bad. Here's the thing, as long as there are people of ill will and they have guns, you will need people willing to oppose them who also have guns. Also just as a practical matter you are not going disarm the United States, there are more guns already in this country than there are people. Even if it was politically doable it would be logistically impossible. That horse left the barn long ago and you won't be able to put it back in the stall. As to your list of what people tend to do with their firearms these things tend to happen because they aren't properly trained. They don't properly secure their weapons and they don't treat them with appropriate respect. If you already know proper gun safety then assume that the instruction isn't for you but rather for those who do not. I'm not making an assumption about anyone beyond the basis fact that most people (including those who grew up around hunting culture) do not have proper firearms training. Hell I include most of the gun toting asshats on the right. I'm not saying buy a loving gun and keep in under your pillow or leaning against they wall. I'm saying buy a weapon and lock it in a loving safe with a trigger lock. The right is heavily armed, worse thanks to the "guns are bad" people like yourself, they are emboldened by the idea that us "libtards" are a bunch of pansies who are unarmed and vulnerable. They are cowards at heart and the best way to shut them down is to make it clear in no uncertain terms that while we lefties prefer to avoid starting fights we are prepared to end them. Do you know what brought about the first gun control legislation in this country? Hint it involved a famous leftist political organization who used them to protect themselves from the police while observing police abusing their power. If the left were to arm up you'd likely find the Right going all kinds of pro-gun control again. Believe me I'd love to live in a world where guns didn't exist and everyone was rational, tolerant and compassionate. I do not however live in that imaginary utopia and neither do you.
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May 30, 2017 18:22
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DaveWoo posted:Stand back, hot take comin' through: No Chris, I took a break from the choking sadness that is the current situation in America and spent that time not worrying about how dipshits from Montana voted.
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May 30, 2017 18:22
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DaveWoo posted:Stand back, hot take comin' through: I mean if the question is "will Republicans forgive anything their representatives do bar raising taxes", then yeah, they bet right. I called it as soon as it happened that the body slam would be a net positive. He's a tough guy and a straight shooter now, willing to give the librul elites in the media a piece of his mind. If you told me the whole scenario were contrived specifically for this result I wouldn't be surprised.
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May 30, 2017 18:25
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mcmagic posted:At least learn what a communist is.... Someone tried to correct him: https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/869604327626874882
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May 30, 2017 18:26
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Deified Data posted:I mean if the question is "will Republicans forgive anything their representatives do bar raising taxes", then yeah, they bet right. I called it as soon as it happened that the body slam would be a net positive. He's a tough guy and a straight shooter now, willing to give the librul elites in the media a piece of his mind. If you told me the whole scenario were contrived specifically for this result I wouldn't be surprised. Let's all look forward to President Gianforte. ... He'll still be more qualified than Trump.
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May 30, 2017 18:26
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Skex posted:Here's the thing, as long as there are people of ill will and they have guns, you will need people willing to oppose them who also have guns. Also just as a practical matter you are not going disarm the United States, there are more guns already in this country than there are people. Even if it was politically doable it would be logistically impossible. That horse left the barn long ago and you won't be able to put it back in the stall. idiots playing dress-up with their favorite deadly toys trying to reenact their favorite movies and tv shows would be a much, much bigger threat to me than people of ill will who have guns if they were common because i live in a civilized, populated area, and rely on the police to be the ~people willing to oppose them with guns~ who have problems but at least are theoretically required to be competent and answer for their actions fortunately the unending social scorn civilized areas have for idiots trying to play dress-up with guns keeps that in check you can do whatever you want in an area so thinly populated that you're not going to hit anyone else when you play my favorite dressup hero though
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Keep some of the guns, learn proper disciplines and practices with such weapons. Teach those who live with you the same. You have a lot of people out there on both sides talking about the end of days or civil war; it's far fetched but not improbable. Keep fighting the good fight in where guns could one day be irrelevant but don't confuse the dream with reality.
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May 30, 2017 18:27
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Deified Data posted:I mean if the question is "will Republicans forgive anything their representatives do bar raising taxes", then yeah, they bet right. I called it as soon as it happened that the body slam would be a net positive. He's a tough guy and a straight shooter now, willing to give the librul elites in the media a piece of his mind. If you told me the whole scenario were contrived specifically for this result I wouldn't be surprised. I do not believe it was a net positive at all. A lot of people were asking if they could change their vote. It just turned out that too much of the early vote was in and the lead was too great for this to cost him the election, but he may have lost if it happened a month before the vote. (actually, good chance that he quits the race and the GOP subs in someone else)
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May 30, 2017 18:27
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DaveWoo posted:Someone tried to correct him: Heh. A moron and proud of it!
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if a gun owner shoots himself in the face does that count as a self defensive action and a proper use of second amendment rights to end a deadly threat from a crazed gunman?
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We're on gun chat now? How the hell did that happen?
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May 30, 2017 18:29
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Rigel posted:I do not believe it was a net positive at all. A lot of people were asking if they could change their vote. It might be possible to compare pre-election day voting to election day voting, compare that to historical splits between the two in Montana and reason out what the likely impact was, but I don't know it would be at all accurate given what I expect was somewhat abnormal turnout.
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BiohazrD posted:just smh if you havent bought at least one gun, US politics aside when half of the country is underwater and you are scrounging for food in the 120 degree heat of wisconsin you are gonna wish you had some weapons Suicide and Depression runs in my family (not just my family, my immediate family), so no, owning a gun is a terrible idea for me regardless of whether I would be otherwise interested in doing so or not. (Also, lol, is that one for each person in your family or are you going to dual wield pistols with three rifles strapped to your back and rambo it up in post Trump America?) Ague Proof posted:It's so loving obvious Trump personally colluded with Russia, that most of his team knew about it and some of them helped, and that his party were well aware and probably complicit. It's been obvious since last year just from things that were public knowledge. Every week more damning stuff comes out, real things not the Mensch conspiracy theories. It's going to take something like the piss tape for it to matter and probably not even then, where the conversation will change to "why is being friendlier with Russia a bad thing?" It's gaslighting, so yeah, that's the point.
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Rigel posted:We're on gun chat now? How the hell did that happen? The Democratic party isn't going to win any elections with "we need to educate the other side!"
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STAC Goat posted:Have you ever had a loved one in the hospital or badly sick and you had to go about your regular life but the whole time you were just looking at your phone waiting to hear news and letting your mind jump to all the worst places? And then there'd be moments where you'd genuinely forget and lose yourself in something good or fun but then you'd remember and be overcome with guilt? And then your phone finally makes a noise and for a second that feels like a lifetime you feel paralyzed and overwhelmed with dread about what the message is going to tell you and how bad things might be? And like even if its good news it comes with a long conversation about everything that could still go wrong or still has to be dealt with which is all bad news but just isn't the worst possible news? christ this is so on the nose
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Blitz7x posted:The Democratic party isn't going to win any elections with "we need to educate the other side!" I hope your Glocks in your kitchen help out with that.
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STAC Goat posted:Have you ever had a loved one in the hospital or badly sick and you had to go about your regular life but the whole time you were just looking at your phone waiting to hear news and letting your mind jump to all the worst places? And then there'd be moments where you'd genuinely forget and lose yourself in something good or fun but then you'd remember and be overcome with guilt? And then your phone finally makes a noise and for a second that feels like a lifetime you feel paralyzed and overwhelmed with dread about what the message is going to tell you and how bad things might be? And like even if its good news it comes with a long conversation about everything that could still go wrong or still has to be dealt with which is all bad news but just isn't the worst possible news? Yeah, this is about right.
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stone cold posted:what did turnout out end up being like in Washington, Colorado, etc Voter turnout in currently all mail-in election states, by year for the last nine general elections of eligible voters: pre:Year 2016 | 2014 | 2012 | 2010 | 2008 | 2006 | 2004 | 2002 | 2000 National 60.2% | 36.7 | 58.6 | 41.8 | 62.2 | 41.3 | 60.7 | 40.5 | 55.3 Colorado 72.1% | 54.7 | 70.6 | 51.7 | 71.6 | 48.1 | 67.3 | 46.6 | 57.5 Oregon 68.3% | 53.4 | 64.2 | 53.9 | 68.3 | 53.2 | 72.6 | 51.8 | 65.9 Washington 65.7% | 43.1 | 65.8 | 54.3 | 67.3 | 47.3 | 67.5 | 43.5 | 61.4 Source: http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/voter-turnout-data Oregon, Washington and Colorado routinely top voter turnout comparisons. Oregon implemented vote by mail in 1998, Washington in 2011, Colorado in 2013. As most people know, 2016, 2012, 2008, 2004, and 2000 were presidential election years, with traditionally higher turnout. Oregon has the longest history to look over, but statistics for the critical pre-1998 years are lacking. Vote by mail should have a particular impact on minor/midterm elections, which have very low turnout but also few available statistics. Voter turnout of course varies by the specifics of each election, and the closeness of the contest. Purple states should have higher turnout. Kaal fucked around with this message at 18:40 on May 30, 2017 |
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boner confessor posted:if a gun owner shoots himself in the face does that count as a self defensive action and a proper use of second amendment rights to end a deadly threat from a crazed gunman? Holy poo poo.
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FYI candidate Zuckerberg isn't gonna be a thing because he's wildly uncharismatic and billions of dollars doesn't seem to be helping with that. Stop talking about candidate Zuck like that poo poo is happening. Seriously I watched a random 30 seconds of that speech and he's hilariously awkward. Jesse Eisenberg Zuck could maybe pull it off, but real-life Zuck is like a pale thumb with wet eyes that looks constantly scared.
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Ague Proof posted:It's so loving obvious Trump personally colluded with Russia, that most of his team knew about it and some of them helped, and that his party were well aware and probably complicit. It's been obvious since last year just from things that were public knowledge. Every week more damning stuff comes out, real things not the Mensch conspiracy theories. It's going to take something like the piss tape for it to matter and probably not even then, where the conversation will change to "why is being friendlier with Russia a bad thing?" This is an intentional part of the strategy, yeah. Gaslight everything and defend it with team think bullshit. Hell, Trump publicly asked during a rally for Russia to hack Hillary's emails, then it happened.
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androo posted:FYI candidate Zuckerberg isn't gonna be a thing because he's wildly uncharismatic and billions of dollars doesn't seem to be helping with that. Stop talking about candidate Zuck like that poo poo is happening. On the other hand Donald Trump is president.
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DaveWoo posted:Stand back, hot take comin' through: I mean I was busy having a picnic in the park with good friends and then a cookout at my girlfriends parents house, but no yeah not being miserable every waking second is proof they've won Chris, thank you.
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Kaal posted:Voter turnout in currently all mail-in election states, by year for the last nine general elections of eligible voters: This might be the downside of eyeballing data, but I'm not seeing any indication that going to mail-in changed turnout in CO or Washington at all. Turnout patterns look unaffected by the date they went to mail-in.
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Crain posted:It's worrying, but I don't see the end result of vaguely allied militia groups as a full coup. At best they start "patrolling" their areas pretending to play cop and get push back from the real police for stepping on their turf, and the ones that end up killing anyone get arrested and sentenced and the GOP just goes "oh wow what a crazy lone wolf with no connection to anything" like usual. These guys are not actually very good at what they do, and they are not being lead by geniuses (as we're finding out). So, I'm more worried than you are because we have already seen juries nullify clearly-guilty conservative perps who do stupid things with guns to federal property and minorities on video then brag about it over social media.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:What will the NRA do once 3D printed weapons begin to approach the quality and reliability of gun manufacturers? You can anyway print a gun, it sucks, but give it 5-10 years. This already happened, more or less. The NRA has been opposed to efforts to regulate 3D printing, but not strongly. I don't think they did anything in the Defense Distributed lawsuit, which would be the test case anyone into this would care about. Defense Distributed was blocked from distributing the files under arms import/export regulations. The NRA will make noise about it if new regs could be used to impact existing manufacturers, but won't otherwise do much.
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You'd think a reporter would not be eager to trumpet that violence against a reporter worked fine for a political entity, but Clizzia seems like the kind of guy who'd be happy to write in a state media outlet so that his lack of anything approaching analysis would be considered more of a plus.
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androo posted:FYI candidate Zuckerberg isn't gonna be a thing because he's wildly uncharismatic and billions of dollars doesn't seem to be helping with that. Stop talking about candidate Zuck like that poo poo is happening. We'll get to see in real time if hiring the best public speaking coaches in the world pays off
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kartikeya posted:Suicide and Depression runs in my family (not just my family, my immediate family), so no, owning a gun is a terrible idea for me regardless of whether I would be otherwise interested in doing so or not. yeah thats a good reason, stay safe depression goon (its both)
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evilweasel posted:This might be the downside of eyeballing data, but I'm not seeing any indication that going to mail-in changed turnout in CO or Washington at all. Turnout patterns look unaffected by the date they went to mail-in. I agree, actually, which is why I ended up adding a bunch of caveats after I put the data together. And the volatility of turnout numbers makes it really hard to pick out any kind of trend. I wish that we had Oregon's numbers prior to 2000. Kaal fucked around with this message at 18:57 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 18:43
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Party Plane Jones posted:And on a lighter note: 
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Getting past that absolutely disgusting mystery food... that grill is dirty as gently caress. Like, mine wasn't half that bad and I still decided to drop the $15 on a new rack this weekend rather than cook people food on whatever the gently caress was left over from last year and a winter of cold, humid storage.
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I don't think I've seen this mentioned but our Spicey boy is resuming his press briefings today at 2pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT3be2QBmE4
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