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all phone numbers and opening hours will change the number of languages offered is reducing to 8 including English customers who contact UK Visas and Immigration by email will be charged £5.48 The private sector wins again lmbo
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That's not an inconsiderable sum of money in many parts of the world. Would it be cynical of me to think that this would be designed to discourage people from CERTAIN COUNTRIES from applying for visas?
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May 30, 2017 17:52
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julian assflange posted:That's not an inconsiderable sum of money in many parts of the world. Would it be cynical of me to think that this would be designed to discourage people from CERTAIN COUNTRIES from applying for visas? Of course that's the case. That's why they have those minimum income rules too. It stops The Poors getting in legally, so they can just be rounded up and deported instead.
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May 30, 2017 17:55
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Is this a sign that the Tories know they're not gonna get their "End of free movement of people" from their deal with the EU, and are trying to make it as difficult as possible for "undesirables" to apply instead?
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May 30, 2017 18:03
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Well having to apply for a visa would indicate an end of free movement
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May 30, 2017 18:07
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Would it not also provide credit card details of everyone thinking about entering the country?
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May 30, 2017 18:10
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kustomkarkommando posted:Well having to apply for a visa would indicate an end of free movement I was more thinking of them trying to target immigrants from outside the EU so as to lower immigration that way instead. Edit: Sorry, should have specified.
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May 30, 2017 18:11
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learnincurve posted:Would it not also provide credit card details of everyone thinking about entering the country? Well there's already a charge for a visa so that doesn't really change much, because it's for enquiries from people already going through the visa application process.
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May 30, 2017 18:15
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julian assflange posted:That's not an inconsiderable sum of money in many parts of the world. Would it be cynical of me to think that this would be designed to discourage people from CERTAIN COUNTRIES from applying for visas? The only thing that makes it seem inconsiderable is the cost of the visas themselves. I'm surprised they would outsource any part of it considering what a massive scammy cashcow the whole visa process always has been.
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May 30, 2017 18:16
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Targeting young voters is a good idea in the long run because it will make them more likely to vote and to vote Labour in future elections. I also think it's morally the right thing to do at a time when the Conservatives are trying to disenfranchise young people, with not even a token Facebook post reminding them they now have to register to vote.
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May 30, 2017 18:17
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Broken Cog posted:I was more thinking of them trying to target immigrants from outside the EU so as to lower immigration that way instead. Not... really, no. If they want less immigrants they can just issue less visas - turns out though we actually do need immigrants, in large amounts, to keep our economy propped up, and someone's came up with a clever way of dipping their beak a bit further into the wallets of those applying. There's probably not a huge amount of people who will have been willing to go through all the hoops already required for a UK visa (including having £30k in the bank or whatever it is) but who will then balk at having to pay a few quid to email them to ask what the question about "Are you now or have you ever been a member of an ethnic group with funny ways and smelly food?" means.
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May 30, 2017 18:21
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Tortuga posted:The only thing that makes it seem inconsiderable is the cost of the visas themselves. You've really not been paying attention, have you? Massive cashcows are always the very first thing to get privatised, because the Perfect Rational Actors really aren't interested in services that they can't make a healthy profit off.
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May 30, 2017 18:22
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:She just won't stop with the shoddy Hello!-esque design leaflets, and how the gently caress they've managed to amalgamate me and the guy who lives upstairs into one mailing list I don't know We got this as well. The envelope makes it look like a household bill - there's a second class (lol) stamp actually printed onto the front, as if an actual human was involved in its production at some point, which seems a bit cheeky to me.
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May 30, 2017 18:26
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Not... really, no. If they want less immigrants they can just issue less visas - turns out though we actually do need immigrants, in large amounts, to keep our economy propped up, and someone's came up with a clever way of dipping their beak a bit further into the wallets of those applying. There's probably not a huge amount of people who will have been willing to go through all the hoops already required for a UK visa (including having £30k in the bank or whatever it is) but who will then balk at having to pay a few quid to email them to ask what the question about "Are you now or have you ever been a member of an ethnic group with funny ways and smelly food?" means. Fair enough, it just seemed like such an arbitrary fee, and more like something that was made specifically to discourage people from applying/going through with applications. I thought it might have been an idea they came up with to lower the total immigration numbers, so they would have something to point at when the hardcore Brexit crowd comes knocking.
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May 30, 2017 18:28
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:She just won't stop with the shoddy Hello!-esque design leaflets, and how the gently caress they've managed to amalgamate me and the guy who lives upstairs into one mailing list I don't know Those leaflets look like the design of seventeen magazine circa 2006.
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May 30, 2017 18:30
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Tortuga posted:The only thing that makes it seem inconsiderable is the cost of the visas themselves. If by 'always' you mean since about 2003. Indefinite leave to remain used to be free to apply for. Now it's £2,297 and it goes up another few hundo every year.
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May 30, 2017 18:36
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I've fallen behind on the thread for the last two days so not sure if it's been mentioned, but I heard Barry Gardiner on the radio today and he's really good.
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May 30, 2017 18:45
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sacre posted:I've fallen behind on the thread for the last two days so not sure if it's been mentioned, but I heard Barry Gardiner on the radio today and he's really good. Yeah he seems like one of their best performers at the moment. I didn't know anything about him before the election campaign. https://twitter.com/imajsaclaimant/status/869548548869771268
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May 30, 2017 18:48
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mehall posted:but if worst comes to worst, I'll walk away with a Yaris. Hey that's my car 
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Kegluneq posted:We got this as well. The envelope makes it look like a household bill - there's a second class (lol) stamp actually printed onto the front, as if an actual human was involved in its production at some point, which seems a bit cheeky to me. That seems really weird and feels like it should be illegal? Although I guess if they're not actually trying to send it via Royal Mail it's not an issue.
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May 30, 2017 18:52
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feedmegin posted:Hey that's my car It could be worse, you could drive a Corsa (like me). Is that the WTO equivalent?
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May 30, 2017 18:53
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dispatch_async posted:Yeah he seems like one of their best performers at the moment. I didn't know anything about him before the election campaign. Even that interviewer is missing the point completely. "May made a figure up completely and no-one cared, Corbyn couldn't remember one and was pilloried" "but he should have remembered it!" just gently caress off with this bullshit.
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May 30, 2017 18:53
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feedmegin posted:Hey that's my car LAB: 581 CON: 69 Other: lol Charity: buy feedmegin a new car, Inc.
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May 30, 2017 18:56
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May 30, 2017 19:01
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Of course that's the case. That's why they have those minimum income rules too. It stops The Poors getting in legally, so they can just be rounded up and deported instead.
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May 30, 2017 19:04
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Julio Cruz posted:Even that interviewer is missing the point completely. This seems to be his speciality from the few interviews on YouTube, calling out the interviewer on their inconsistencies. His voting record looks ok, hopefully he gets a better brief after a reshuffle. Shadow home sec maybe?
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May 30, 2017 19:09
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dispatch_async posted:Yeah he seems like one of their best performers at the moment. I didn't know anything about him before the election campaign. This whole thing is vile. They're trying their best to pretend they care about Corbyn forgetting a figure. It's not even that the figure doesn't exist. Just that he forgot it. It got the BBC site main article treatment. If anyone was on the fence about whether the BBC were bent then here we go. On one hand it's good because it means this is all they have. The IRA stuff must not be sticking. But on the other hand giving it such prominent space might very well work on a few idiot fence sitters.
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May 30, 2017 19:10
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Has nobody informed the british media that we invented something called "writing" about five to six millennia ago so we didn't have to keep every scrap of information in our heads at all times?
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May 30, 2017 19:16
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sacre posted:This seems to be his speciality from the few interviews on YouTube, calling out the interviewer on their inconsistencies. He certainly should be in one of the big chairs.
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May 30, 2017 19:17
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Corbyn's on the One Show right now, all he's doing is explaining the context behind old photos of him. https://twitter.com/BBCTheOneShow/status/869617218027311104
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May 30, 2017 19:18
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HJB posted:Corbyn's on the One Show right now, all he's doing is explaining the context behind old photos of him. Still more charismatic than May.
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May 30, 2017 19:19
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UPDATE: He gave them a jar of his jam.
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May 30, 2017 19:26
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Crowsbeak posted:Those leaflets look like the design of seventeen magazine circa 2006. We like beer, bingo and reading trashy magazines!!!  What we need is a nationwide campaign to keep older people utterly distracted for a day on the 8th of June. I'm thinking give them coupons for discounts on some product they just can't resist at shops that involve a full day's travel.
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May 30, 2017 19:28
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I might set up a market stall in the industrial estate outside town, selling nothing but limited edition (one day only!) Princess Dianna commemorative china plates and statuettes.
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May 30, 2017 19:30
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HJB posted:UPDATE: He gave them a jar of his jam. Jezza is too good for this shithole country.
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May 30, 2017 19:39
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HJB posted:UPDATE: He gave them a jar of his jam. What a gent
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May 30, 2017 19:57
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I cannot get over the pure head-gently caress that is having someone a few months ago standing up and saying "The vote was to leave the EU so gently caress the single market and bollocks to free movement, the EU are cunts" now appearing on their party political broadcasts and saying that there's a real chance of it all going horrifically wrong so we need to be careful. It's a massive gaslighting effort.
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May 30, 2017 19:59
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May 30, 2017 20:00
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"my pioneering method" does this guy think he's the first person in the world to discover how to make a loving sandwich 
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Julio Cruz posted:Even that interviewer is missing the point completely. Yeah, it was a total non-story.
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