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Artist is "pro-feminisim"; places a tiny dog statue peeing on a little girl statue. Progress! 
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Radish posted:I'm not making the argument that he is supporting Kushner definitely because he's being paid to. I'm just saying he's just tanked his chances of winning any sort of Presidential nomination. No one is going to care about his political committee and whatever Senate politics he is working against, just he is a Democrat "defending" a member of the Trump administration and coincidentally the one who gave him money. If that Tweet can find that information then it's a lock his opponents will find it and it's a story that will find a lot more traction that Booker is actually trying to make his committee relevant. You're really over estimating political memory. No one will remember that tweet unless Booker does something worse, like vote against convicting Trump. The same people declaring Booker DOA are the same people who already declared Booker DOA due to his confirmation votes.
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May 30, 2017 20:11
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Sorry if this has already been posted but this is amazing https://twitter.com/MikeLevinCA/sta...constituents%2F
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May 30, 2017 20:12
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The statue looks like a slug/poop.
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May 30, 2017 20:12
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TildeATH posted:The statue looks like a slug/poop. That's just what Darrell Issa looks like
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May 30, 2017 20:13
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Sorry if this has already been posted but this is amazing The safest space is sitting atop a white building looking down upon the constituents
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May 30, 2017 20:14
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haveblue posted:I hope someone puts up a fourth statue to make the dog look bad, and then someone responds to that with a fifth, and in a few months all of Wall Street looks like a giant bronze game of Exquisite Corpse. I too hope that Wall Street makes an Exquisite Corpse, comrade.
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May 30, 2017 20:15
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Party Plane Jones posted:So Wiegel responded to somebody about this Kathy Griffin thing that they refused to link: While I agree that Trump is a piece of poo poo, I'm worried that stuff like this will cause the Democrats to lose in 2020
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May 30, 2017 20:16
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Sorry if this has already been posted but this is amazing All the press and voters will look up and shout "Talk to us!"... and I'll whisper "oh god please leave me alone."
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May 30, 2017 20:17
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Willo567 posted:While I agree that Trump is a piece of poo poo, I'm worried that stuff like this will cause the Democrats to lose in 2020 If the Dems lose in 2020 it will not be because of Kathy Griffin jfc
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May 30, 2017 20:17
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Willo567 posted:While I agree that Trump is a piece of poo poo, I'm worried that stuff like this will cause the Democrats to lose in 2020 Really? Some random celeb holds an effigy *Dems lose 2020* The actual nominee threatens protesters, brags about assaulting woman, has staff attack reporters *Republicans win 2016*
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May 30, 2017 20:18
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Trabisnikof posted:You're really over estimating political memory. No one will remember that tweet unless Booker does something worse, like vote against convicting Trump. The 2019 Democratic primary will be a referendum on how much you stood up to Trump (even if it's just symbolically) and will be a ton of people trying not like 2016 where it was Hillary running effectively unopposed until Sanders jumped in. If Booker runs that statement will come back to haunt him because his opponents will remember.
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May 30, 2017 20:18
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Willo567 posted:While I agree that Trump is a piece of poo poo, I'm worried that stuff like this will cause the Democrats to lose in 2020 No one who would vote for Democrats is going to be put off by that.
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May 30, 2017 20:18
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The other angle: https://twitter.com/DarrellIssa/status/869629827367743488
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May 30, 2017 20:18
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Willo567 posted:While I agree that Trump is a piece of poo poo, I'm worried that stuff like this will cause the Democrats to lose in 2020 if kathy griffin ever does anything of real significance we are all doomed
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May 30, 2017 20:18
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Willo567 posted:While I agree that Trump is a piece of poo poo, I'm worried that stuff like this will cause the Democrats to lose in 2020 Nobody is going to remember this in 3 weeks let alone 3 years
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May 30, 2017 20:18
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I agree it is dumb and hurts the messaging. 2020 Debate Booker: Says something about how he has changed his opinion on charter schools over time. Trump: "My son-in-law bought you just like I bought Hillary. I can't be bought. America can see right through you." Then he gives him a childish nickname like Phony Baloney Booker.
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May 30, 2017 20:20
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Radish posted:The 2019 Democratic primary will be a referendum on how much you stood up to Trump (even if it's just symbolically) and will be a ton of people trying not like 2016 where it was Hillary running effectively unopposed until Sanders jumped in. If Booker runs that statement will come back to haunt him because his opponents will remember. You're assuming there are no developments or more important times to stand up to Trump. If Trump is impeached and convicted no one will loving care about this tweet when compared to the voting record. Trying to bring up some years old tweet will only work if Booker's future behavior matches the tweet. Spacebump posted:2020 Debate Ftfy
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May 30, 2017 20:21
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haveblue posted:I hope someone puts up a fourth statue to make the dog look bad, and then someone responds to that with a fifth, and in a few months all of Wall Street looks like a giant bronze game of Exquisite Corpse. I hope someone lights off some thermite all over that loving bull.
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May 30, 2017 20:22
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haveblue posted:I hope someone puts up a fourth statue to make the dog look bad, and then someone responds to that with a fifth, and in a few months all of Wall Street looks like a giant bronze game of Exquisite Corpse. Someone make a bronze status of a KKK dude holding the dogs leash.
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May 30, 2017 20:25
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Willo567 posted:While I agree that Trump is a piece of poo poo, I'm worried that stuff like this will cause the Democrats to lose in 2020 how is this in any way associated with the democrats? if crazy people out there are going to vote trump to stick it to imaginary liberals in their minds then you have zero control over whatever irrational poo poo is going on in their heads. dont buy into this stupid guilt trip mentality where you have to be nice to people to court their vote instead of just treating them like an adult because eventually they'll be all "well you didn't bend over and suck my dick so i voted for trump, i didn't move right the left just abandonded me"
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May 30, 2017 20:26
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While it's true that the Kathy Griffin thing isn't going to drive away otherwise reasonable people who will now vote R, this is just the sort of thing that gives the Right even the tiniest opening to convince apolitical people to stay home and not vote at all, which does hurt the Dems. And I'm not saying this event in isolation will do it, but holding up severed fake heads of the President is not something progressives should ever do. If this were some conservative shithead holding a severed Obama head in 2009 everyone here would be rightfully put off by it.
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May 30, 2017 20:27
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 Spicer leaves on another hostile "fake news" note. I'm sure this will make the reporters be nicer to the Trump administration.
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May 30, 2017 20:27
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Anyone voting for Trump because liberals were too mean  was voting for Trump anyway. On what planet were liberals of all people the toxic element from 2008-2016?Unzip and Attack posted:While it's true that the Kathy Griffin thing isn't going to drive away otherwise reasonable people who will now vote R, this is just the sort of thing that gives the Right even the tiniest opening to convince apolitical people to stay home and not vote at all, which does hurt the Dems. The right spent eight years being colossal assholes in every way possible which culminated in their biggest stupidest rear end in a top hat winning the presidency. Those "apolitical" people are not apolitical if they somehow think that liberals being smug is worse than pussy grabbing guy that mocks the disabled.
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May 30, 2017 20:28
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I don't know why the Kathy Griffin thing is so big. Hell, didn't Manson do a video where a trump look-alike gets gruesomely murdered or something? Like, I get it, these guys are artists and they're gonna have extreme opinions on how Trump "should be dealt with", but let's not make mountains out of molehills.
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May 30, 2017 20:28
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botany posted:He said the same thing about Mexico. The US president literally has no idea what a trade deficit is, how that whole thing works, and how it ties into the national debt, aggregate demand and all those other things you're supposed to understand when you run a country. To be fair, I wouldn't know what any of that poo poo is either and that's why you are supposed to have a competent and qualified Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Commerce, and advisers who loving DO know so they can, you know, advise you. The whole point of a cabinet is that you don't need to be an expert in everything as long as you have the ability to get help and advice from people who are.
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May 30, 2017 20:28
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Unzip and Attack posted:While it's true that the Kathy Griffin thing isn't going to drive away otherwise reasonable people who will now vote R, this is just the sort of thing that gives the Right even the tiniest opening to convince apolitical people to stay home and not vote at all, which does hurt the Dems. this is the party of fake news, blood cults, and pizza gate - they don't need anything grounded in reality to create openings to make people stay home. a huge portion of the united states electorate is disconnected from rational thought so we don't need to worry about the details of artistic statements driving crazy or ignorant people away
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May 30, 2017 20:28
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Radish posted:There is no way in 2019 that a Democrat that defended Jared Kushner while he was neck deep in the Trump Russia poo poo (and not even from prosecution, just from having his security credentials removed) is going to get the nomination. Then you add in his shady connections to that guy and it's even more impossible. That would take the DNC actually doing some real hook or by crook poo poo and I can't think they like Booker THAT much to lose a second election to Trump just for that and really destroy their party. Yeah, Booker seems to have a lot of raw political talent but it's basically completely neutered by his apparently unshakable habit of going to bat for various hedge fund/wall street/etc guys.
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May 30, 2017 20:29
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Unzip and Attack posted:While it's true that the Kathy Griffin thing isn't going to drive away otherwise reasonable people who will now vote R, this is just the sort of thing that gives the Right even the tiniest opening to convince apolitical people to stay home and not vote at all, which does hurt the Dems. Presumably you're also against punching Nazis because of the same reasons right?
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May 30, 2017 20:29
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CNN frontpage is something else Trump is back home -- angry and alone The president has gained weight, turned inward, Gloria Borger writes
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May 30, 2017 20:30
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That dog statue would look nice besides one of the Trump ones. Just make sure it's a female dog.
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May 30, 2017 20:30
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evilweasel posted:Yeah, Booker seems to have a lot of raw political talent but it's basically completely neutered by his apparently unshakable habit of going to bat for various hedge fund/wall street/etc guys. Booker has always been 98% Show horse.
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May 30, 2017 20:30
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Trabisnikof posted:Presumably you're also against punching Nazis because of the same reasons right? No I'm not but thanks for making yourself look even dumber than usual. What I'm saying is that people on this forum rightly objected to Obama being hung in effigy back when he got elected. We also got mad at Sarah Palin for putting crosshairs on Gabby Giffords' district. Holding a fake severed head of the President of the United States is a call for violence against him personally. If you think someone should decapitate Donald Trump then sure, go ahead. Unzip and Attack fucked around with this message at 20:33 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 20:30
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:CNN frontpage is something else Haha his life is hell GLORIOUS
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May 30, 2017 20:31
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evilweasel posted:Yeah, Booker seems to have a lot of raw political talent but it's basically completely neutered by his apparently unshakable habit of going to bat for various hedge fund/wall street/etc guys. to be fair. People who work in those fields are a large portion of his constituents. But it's going to screw him over when it comes time to win a Dem primary.
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May 30, 2017 20:32
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HonorableTB posted:To be fair, I wouldn't know what any of that poo poo is either Yeah, but perhaps you might not be qualified to be President either. The President needs a sufficient baseline of knowledge to know who is a qualified person, to make sense of what that qualified person is telling him, and to make good decisions when his qualified cabinet members disagree. None of the things he listed there are expert-level things. They are basic concepts you need to understand to have any capability to be the decision-maker in that area, even with advice from experts.
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May 30, 2017 20:32
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Unzip and Attack posted:No I'm not but thanks for making yourself look even dumber than usual. How does a celeb holding an effigy give Republicans an ability to convince moderates to stay home, but political violence won't? You're arguing people are more likely to change their voting behavior based on the mere existence of symbolic violence (the photo of an effigy) versus change their voting behavior based on actual violence (punching Nazi Trump supporters). Meanwhile, endless violent memes from the right seem to not have stopped Trump and Republicans.
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May 30, 2017 20:33
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:CNN frontpage is something else Him turning on himself is the only logical conclusion to his complete failure. I hope he fires himself in a dream and never wakes up.
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May 30, 2017 20:34
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HonorableTB posted:To be fair, I wouldn't know what any of that poo poo is either and that's why you are supposed to have a competent and qualified Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Commerce, and advisers who loving DO know so they can, you know, advise you.
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evilweasel posted:Yeah, Booker seems to have a lot of raw political talent but it's basically completely neutered by his apparently unshakable habit of going to bat for various hedge fund/wall street/etc guys. There's also an air of desperate ambition around everything he does that's a Hillary-level turnoff.
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