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Baronjutter posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmwyWerz5KI lol 
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The big bugs are very scary if you're trapped somewhere you can't use guns or explosives, but (Prometheus / Alien: Covenant black goo biological weapons aside) worrying about the aliens as presented in Alien and Aliens destroying the Earth is like worrying that the dinosaurs would escape Jurassic Park and kill everyone. That said, a Blomkamp movie about life on Earth where these nasty aliens are just another part of life, a la Monsters: Dark Continent, would be pretty cool so long as it doesn't get in the way of whatever Ridley Scott wants to do.
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the outbreak in AvP:R was totally contained, though. The earth was never hosed. Fun story: You can swap the last 10 minutes of AvP2 and Resident Evil 2 without changing either movie at all.
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superh posted:No lie, I was expecting some reference to this in A:C. Just a little bummed that it doesn't seem to be there. The do such a long Checkov's gun lingering shot on it! I wondered if this was meant to play into Shaw/the audience's expectation of ancient aliens using magic crystals or something but it was weird that they never mentioned it again. It would be amazing if it was a super long payback in the Alien movie after this one somehow.
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The green crystal is there (among other things) to visually establish that the Engineers themselves have things they hold holy, have their own religion, etc. That they may view themselves as gods, but they do so the way Weyland did, via analogy, not the way an actually-existing deity presumably would. There are no answers there to the ultimate questions. Just people with their own artifacts and traditions.
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How funny is it that the highest grossing film in the Alien franchise does NOT have the word Alien in its title.Breetai posted:Apropos of nothing (although maybe Blomkamp chat is what got me thinking about it), one of the biggest barriers to doing a good straight sequel to the original 4 Alien films is that the series tends to be the same film just done by different directors. We've had Scott and Cameron do it very very well, one somewhat contentious entry into the series, and one garbage fire. But each time it's been a case of 'one/a few members of a small group of people survive the Alien', with a dash of 'don't let W-Y get their hands on it for their bioweapons division' thrown in. The one thing I'd like to see if anyone did another straight sequel is to just finally pull the pin and do the one thing the series has never done before. I want to see Alien: The Earth is hosed. Too bad Blomkamp wants to do Aliens: Genisys instead.
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May 30, 2017 20:08
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Okay, but if Blomkamp had directed Terminator: Genisys, it would have been amazing.
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May 30, 2017 20:11
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Even if Cameron directed that, i'd be poo poo. There's nothing interesting left to tell in the Connor Saga.
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May 30, 2017 20:17
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I actually really like the idea presented in Genisys, of a "reboot" of the saga a recursive mythology. Everything is different, and yet it is the same because it is a self perpetuating cycle. Legend becomes myth, myth becomes reality. Edit: the whole "unveiling the new killer app which is also an OS" thing was beyond stupid though. And I swear I've seen that gimmick in some other movie too, but I can't place it. Snak fucked around with this message at 20:27 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 20:21
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Snak posted:I actually really like the idea presented in Genisys, of a "reboot" of the saga a recursive mythology. Everything is different, and yet it is the same because it is a self perpetuating cycle. Legend becomes myth, myth becomes reality. Yeah, Genisys is good.
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May 30, 2017 20:30
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Genesys wasn't good, but for a franchise so convoluted with time travel, retcons, and other temporal chicanery, I did not mind at all that it decided to run with that nonsense and go to 11 with it. Does it make any sense who sent the Protector Terminator? A second T1000? Not a drat bit, and I don't care. Besides, I've always wanted to see the End Of The Future War scene.
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May 30, 2017 20:39
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CelticPredator posted:Even if Cameron directed that, i'd be poo poo. There's nothing interesting left to tell in the Connor Saga. did you actually see Genisys? it's not really good but it is sure as gently caress interesting.
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May 30, 2017 20:45
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Snak posted:I actually really like the idea presented in Genisys, of a "reboot" of the saga a recursive mythology. Everything is different, and yet it is the same because it is a self perpetuating cycle. Legend becomes myth, myth becomes reality. It was before "apps" as we use the term now but Terminator 3 was going for the same thing with Skynet taking advantage of the ubiquity of the internet and compatible OSes and stuff rather than a single program in a single government building. They make a point of how there's no single "main computer" or single defense grid you can destroy and then say you destroyed Skynet like in the first movie. I enjoyed Genisys quite a bit. I'm never going to watch it again but it was never boring and had a lot of fun moments in it. The effects got REALLY bad from the second half of the bus chase on though, which was a big letdown for a Terminator movie. Even Salvation has great effects all around. I understand why Jai Courtney/Emilia Clarke were cast, to have the characters reflect the more coddled upbringing they received thanks to them both being raised by people who literally know the future, but there was zero chemistry there. I don't even mean that romantically just in general. I love the effect where SkyJohn is getting pulled apart by the MRI while trying to walk forward and leaving "shadows" of his entire body behind him, that was legit stunning to me because it both looked cool and it's not a thing I think any movie ever really attempted before to that degree. But man CGI helicopters later on? 
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I just mean the whole idea that like, Google or whoever would ha e a new killer app that no one even knew what it was and there was no beta or anything and it's gonna unlock at midnight and change the world or whatever is just the dumbest thing.
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May 30, 2017 20:55
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Snak posted:I just mean the whole idea that like, Google or whoever would ha e a new killer app that no one even knew what it was and there was no beta or anything and it's gonna unlock at midnight and change the world or whatever is just the dumbest thing. Where are you getting that no one knows what it is? It just seemed like super-Siri to me, which is also kind of silly as a huge deal, but it didn't seem like a mystery.
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May 30, 2017 20:57
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Snak posted:I just mean the whole idea that like, Google or whoever would ha e a new killer app that no one even knew what it was and there was no beta or anything and it's gonna unlock at midnight and change the world or whatever is just the dumbest thing. I agree that people getting superhype for something new even though it turns out it will destroy the world plays better after the most recent presidential election than when Genisys was released.
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May 30, 2017 21:01
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:did you actually see Genisys? it's not really good but it is sure as gently caress interesting. I saw it opening day and it was the most boring lifeless thing. It's not interesting. It's a fan film that doesn't want to tell a new story but the same old story with the same old characters except played by way way way worse actors.
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May 30, 2017 21:02
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CelticPredator posted:I saw it opening day and it was the most boring lifeless thing. It's not interesting. It's a fan film that doesn't want to tell a new story but the same old story with the same old characters except played by way way way worse actors. Just think while all of us are working Jai Courtney gets to make $$$$ by standing in one place and looking forward.
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May 30, 2017 21:12
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Aliens? Check. For all this likely came from the shelved Blomkamp Alien film, this looks suspiciously like a follow up to District 9.
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May 30, 2017 21:23
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Sir Kodiak posted:Where are you getting that no one knows what it is? It just seemed like super-Siri to me, which is also kind of silly as a huge deal, but it didn't seem like a mystery. That's what they say it is, but that's not what it actually is. Killer App that is actually something evil to take over the world is like a captain planet level plot device If they actually had super Siri, than the countdown rollout gimmick is totally unnecessary. The could just be selling the product like regular people and then oh by the way, the server is using the distributed processing power to be skynet. But then there isn't a convenient count down for the protagonists to race against. It's an interesting idea forced into this plot point of needing a countdown, even though it makes almost no sense to have one.
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May 30, 2017 21:30
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Agreed that the countdown is pure plot device. However, it's not at all clear that the killer app actually does anything evil.
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ruddiger posted:lol 
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Not sure what Bloody Disgusting is, but someone made a joke about an anime robot in aliens by Bloukamp and, while looking for one of those anime eyed pictures of Bishop, found out there was going to be an aliens kid cartoon at one point. 
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May 30, 2017 21:38
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Those toys were loving AWESOME, though.
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RedSpider posted:How funny is it that the highest grossing film in the Alien franchise does NOT have the word Alien in its title. Only because of inflation. Alien and Aliens are both over 200 mil domestically adjusted for ticket price. Impossible to say internationally I guess
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May 30, 2017 22:09
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DeimosRising posted:Only because of inflation. Alien and Aliens are both over 200 mil domestically adjusted for ticket price. Impossible to say internationally I guess Likely lower, but mostly due to the fact that we often didn't give a flying gently caress about international releases back then.
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It was kinda funny that to stretch the toy line you got such fan favorites as Apone and Drake (maybe Frost even squeaked in there at one point?). Speaking of, my bro brought up the 'plot hole' of the two eggs showing up on their escape vehicle (was it the Sulaco, or did it detach from the Sulaco?). Anyway, my guess was the queen had a hive mind with the drones and a few carried them in there prior to the colony exploding. He says there wouldn't have been time, and he guesses the retcon would now be 'LOL David'. Anybody know? I am not as big on an Aliens nerd as my brother on this topic.
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May 30, 2017 22:16
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Alien and Aliens were huge in Europe.
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Americans generally seem that way.
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CelticPredator posted:Even if Cameron directed that, i'd be poo poo. There's nothing interesting left to tell in the Connor Saga. I think Salvation had a lot of potential. They could have crafted a great story had they focused on the angle of John Connor not knowing how to live up to the legend he was supposed to be, rather than trying to create new types of terminator and bringing back Arnie with CGI.
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May 30, 2017 23:09
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are the Dark Horse Alien Omnibus comic collections worth getting?
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Just the one with Labyrinth.
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CelticPredator posted:Just the one with Labyrinth. Really? Of all the Alien comics, Labyrinth is the one you like the most? The one with the evil scientist and where you can fend off Aliens with a force of will?
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May 31, 2017 02:01
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Labyrinth is awesome because Jim Woodring is awesome.
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Covok posted:Really? Of all the Alien comics, Labyrinth is the one you like the most? The one with the evil scientist and where you can fend off Aliens with a force of will? It's amazing. The part in the hive is fantastic and why I don't really subscribe to the whole, "show more of the aliens you ruin the mystery" thing because all of that scene is horrific and terrifying in the ways that an Alien film should be. It's great.
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Aliens also make him sex his mom in Labyrinth .
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alf_pogs posted:are the Dark Horse Alien Omnibus comic collections worth getting?
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I'm very much not a comics-liking person, but in a quest to fill an alien shaped hole in my life I read a bunch of them and they were all really bad except for Labyrinth. It was creepy and did new things, the rest all felt like someone's fanfiction that just rehashed aliens over and over, or like really bad starwars EU stuff.
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Covok posted:Not sure what Bloody Disgusting is, but someone made a joke about an anime robot in aliens by Bloukamp and, while looking for one of those anime eyed pictures of Bishop, found out there was going to be an aliens kid cartoon at one point. Something similar happened with Terminator 2, I think there's actually some teaser footage of it but it never really got made or released. However like Operation: ALIENS all the action figures came out and there were TV commercials for them. One that did actually come out was "Conan the Barbarian," in the form of He-Man. It was going to be official Conan the Barbarian figures and cartoon but unlike with RAMBO, RoboCop, etc. at that point they didn't feel like basing a kid's show on it when the movie came out but they didn't want to waste the action figure molds/etc. But if you ever wondered why there's a ton of He-Man heroes/villains snake motifs that's why. 
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I hope the next movie is about David learning that the only thing better than creating a horrific race of rape monsters is merchandising them.
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