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Let me get this straight. They tied the entirety of the White Mage's new system, as well as most of its new abilities, to procs based off spells White Mages cast the least. 
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White Mages and Astros to a lesser extent have a huge amount of new healing potency available to them. I'm not sure what to expect, but these toolkits are pretty unnecessary with current encounter damage profiles. I could see them transitioning into a higher consistent damage throughput, which would put some cure spam into use. Scholars didn't seem to get the same treatment as their healing throughput has remained fairly static. But other than that I agree with you. Proccing stacks and lillies off of cure spam seems off.
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May 31, 2017 20:10
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The more I think about SCH the more I settle on the idea that they nerfed potency with the expectation that we're going to have more dps time due to the cleric change, fey union, and that primed lustrate ability. The problem is in non Savage content I already dps nonstop.
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May 31, 2017 20:11
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Stormgale posted:How? Click on the three vertical dots on the right side of the thumbnail title:  (don't actually do this to ethys, he's pretty good)
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:White Mages and Astros to a lesser extent have a huge amount of new healing potency available to them. I'm not sure what to expect, but these toolkits are pretty unnecessary with current encounter damage profiles. I could see them transitioning into a higher consistent damage throughput, which would put some cure spam into use. Like, if they had made it also proc off regen ticks not only would it be more useful but the 20% proc rate would make sense since you get tons of regen ticks.
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May 31, 2017 20:13
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Regarding sch heal potency, it looks like a bunch of passive trait healing buffs affect the fairy now?
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A pox on all your houses, all those who abandon MNK. A pox, I say! 
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nuru posted:Regarding sch heal potency, it looks like a bunch of passive trait healing buffs affect the fairy now? Yeah apparently the Maim and Mend traits effect the pets now.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:White Mages and Astros to a lesser extent have a huge amount of new healing potency available to them. I'm not sure what to expect, but these toolkits are pretty unnecessary with current encounter damage profiles. I could see them transitioning into a higher consistent damage throughput, which would put some cure spam into use. Ast heals might actually have more power than white mage heals cause of the buff to potency they get from their stance. They outheal, outshield, and outbuff everyone. The lilies and confessions seem really poorly thought out. It's all random chance, and that's something people've complained about forever.
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May 31, 2017 20:19
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SonicRulez posted:His voice sounds familiar. Is this where GameTrailers ended up? Yeah, Easy Allies is a bunch of ex-GT staff who started a Patreon like a year ago I think.
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Grondoth posted:Ast heals might actually have more power than white mage heals cause of the buff to potency they get from their stance. They outheal, outshield, and outbuff everyone. Stance potency affects magic healing. Most of the new skills are abilities. If that stance buff works like Divine Seal / Synastry, those are two mutually exclusive categories.
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May 31, 2017 20:21
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No one at SE actually plays whm
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I'm glad Square Enix believes in the heart of the cards.
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slev posted:No one at SE actually plays whm Beginning to think that too. I mean, I thought a lot of the doom and gloom about it was kind of silly but this new system is just baffling.
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May 31, 2017 20:25
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:A pox on all your houses, all those who abandon MNK. A pox, I say! I'm in it to come 5th on the meters with Monk.
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May 31, 2017 20:26
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Dr Pepper posted:Yeah apparently the Maim and Mend traits effect the pets now. Well, that explains where all the damage from Bane, Fester, Shadow Flare, and Miasma 2 went for Summoners.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I'm in it to come 5th on the meters with Monk. Out of five? 
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MCH report: ....6 potency. 6 loving potency on Flamethrower. I'm assuming that's per-tick, and that Flamethrower itself is a channelled cast. Which makes that 6 potency even worse, because as everybody knows, DoT/HoTs only tick once every three seconds. You know what? I'm going back to BRD. Between holy-crap-the-penalty-for-maxing-out-your-heat-gauge, having to relearn how to play with only three ammo, and the dev team clearly having not learned the lessons that should have been taught from not giving ARR WAR a skill that actually felt powerful and like it was swinging around a giant fuckoff axe and the corresponding drop in an enemy's HP bar, they repeat the same mistake and give something with a great animation a piddly-rear end actual effect. Glad nothing in WAR has me wanting to change tanks, glad nothing in AST has me wanting to change healers, but my search for a DPS I can come home to continues. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 20:34 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 20:32
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I have discovered the Riddle of Earth. "Why would I play this job when I can use Braver every 9 GCDs" This is also the Riddle of Fire and the Riddle of Wind
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May 31, 2017 20:33
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SwissArmyDruid posted:MCH report: apparently it's a typo. it's 60
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In other news: Death Blossom still a level 42 skill. So much for giving all jobs a low-level spammable AoE.Happy Blue Cow posted:apparently it's a typo. it's 60 Glad to hear it. So that's two strikes instead of three.
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May 31, 2017 20:36
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One plus for WHMs if the numbers don't change. Aero 2 (12s) - 50 + 200 pot Aero 3 (24s)- 40 + 330 pot Stone 4 - 260 pot (note that dot damage increase with spells speed, making Aero 2 worth while) Some lovely math says that over 24 seconds you'll do 2690 potency, or 269 potency per gcd Combust 2 (30s) - 450 pot Malefic 3 - 210 pot Same lovely math says 2760 damage over 30 seconds, or 220 potency per gcd White Mages should be able to spam 122% of an AST's dps spam.
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May 31, 2017 20:39
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Eopia posted:Out of five? 4
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May 31, 2017 20:40
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 https://gamerescape.com/2017/05/31/avalonstar-stormblood-interview-with-naoki-yoshida/ niceee
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May 31, 2017 20:44
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It seems to me like the River of Blood trait is gone, with the effect being baked into Mage's Ballad now. That's disappointing.
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May 31, 2017 20:47
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I hope those Eeyore looking creatures from Advanced make it in, they had the best hats
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May 31, 2017 20:47
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Am I understanding that 4.1 is expected in July? That seems surprisingly soon to me but I don't know how fast 3.1 came out.
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May 31, 2017 20:48
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He means that XII will be out in July, which should give you time before 4.1. XII can be a lengthy game, but 4.1 has no actual date yet. 3.1 took 4 months.
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ImpAtom posted:Am I understanding that 4.1 is expected in July? That seems surprisingly soon to me but I don't know how fast 3.1 came out. almost assuredly not, just that it'll be in the ballpark of XII relaunch. so possibly august but probably september?
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Summoner looks like the potency loss is going to be made up by using ifrit for cleave and rekindling more, potentially. With no contagion Garuda seems less useful unless the movement of ifrit is an issue.
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If I recall 3.1 was quite a while after Heavensward release because the dev team were dying in real life and needed a holiday.
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Countblanc posted:almost assuredly not, just that it'll be in the ballpark of XII relaunch. so possibly august but probably september? That makes a bit more sense.
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That is exceedingly soon. 3.1 came out after four months instead of three, breaking from the usual clockwork pace of FFXIV's patch cycle, because the dev team was burnt out and Yoshi-P made everyone go on vacation after shipping HW. (minus the occasional bugfix here and there) It would not be unreasonable to expect the same, but I would also expect that the the team learned how to manage their pace better this time around and not repeat the same mistake.
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Dr Pepper posted:Let me get this straight. Remember, this is the same SE that designs encounters around healers contributing exactly zero DPS. Their design probably features WHMs proudly doing nothing but healing the party constantly, because why wouldn't they? White mages are healers. Healing is all they're "supposed" to do. 
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Rainuwastaken posted:Remember, this is the same SE that designs encounters around healers contributing exactly zero DPS. Their design probably features WHMs proudly doing nothing but healing the party constantly, because why wouldn't they? White mages are healers. Healing is all they're "supposed" to do. Counterpoint: Holy
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Why would they give MNK a button that slows you down? I get that it adds damage but I like going fast dammit  RDM looks fun but I guess if I want a new melee dps I'm going SAM
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YellerBill posted:Why would they give MNK a button that slows you down? I get that it adds damage but I like going fast dammit so you can tell that ast who thinks it's funny to drop enhanced arrows on monks to go to hell
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The monk potency decrease if offset by the more charka somewhat right? You get 30% of your crits as Chakra which means if you get 1 FC per minute thats about 8 Potency per GCD (assuming a 2 second GCD)
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Harrow posted:Yeah, Easy Allies is a bunch of ex-GT staff who started a Patreon like a year ago I think. I'm actually happy to hear that. I loved going to GT as a youngin.
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