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yellowcar posted:Take Emelin. Please. You do realize that now that you've said this, he'll be protected, right?
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iospace posted:You do realize that now that you've said this, he'll be protected, right? Knowing Bergevin, I'm expecting it.
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May 31, 2017 18:12
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https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/869924806661214208 His name's come up a few times in the last couple years. Seems like a decent candidate. Hell of a name too
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yellowcar posted:Habs bad. Fixed that for you.
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whatis posted:https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/869924806661214208 He was an assistant in Columbus when they started crawling out of the basement before he abruptly left to run his OHL team. e- CBJ have sent Vancouver their second-round pick this year as required by that stupid rule which was in place when they hired Torts. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 18:58 on May 31, 2017 |
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Mind_Taker posted:I think it's fair to question Trotz's abilities as a coach especially in the playoffs. He's been terrible at adapting to the opposition's strategies and is often slow to make changes. He tried to play run and gun with the Leafs for 4 games, failed to recognize Orlov and Niskanen were his best pairing until the middle of the postseason, stubbornly left Ovechkin and Backstrom together for almost the entire season despite them not having chemistry any more, played 7D despite 2 of them (Orpik and Alzner) being garbage, healthy-scratched Nate Schmidt despite him being probably their third or fourth best D all season, failing to adapt to the Penguins' counter-attacking strategy until it was too late, etc. I mean, at least with the Leafs it def. felt like if they just played their game they were going to come back and win, which they did. But he was definitely exposed in Game 7 against the Penguins. I'm too dumb about real hockey strategy to even know what he did, but they got shut the gently caress down and had 0 answers.
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CBJSprague24 posted:He was an assistant in Columbus when they started crawling out of the basement before he abruptly left to run his OHL team. Rebuild is going smoothly I see
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CBJSprague24 posted:e- CBJ have sent Vancouver their second-round pick this year as required by that stupid rule which was in place when they hired Torts. Jim Benning's greatest move is one he had nothing to do with.
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May 31, 2017 19:09
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yellowcar posted:I still sometimes call the Rogers Centre the SkyDome to this day. Partly out of spite, partly because it sounds cooler, and partly because I hate change. i've never met a single person who calls the skydome the rogers centre
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May 31, 2017 19:20
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I went to a Pens game when I was younger where Bob Boughner murdered Keith Primeau pretty badly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW9l36TVB4k
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May 31, 2017 19:30
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oh man a 144p rip from the old ESPN.com. That alone brings back memories
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May 31, 2017 19:41
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Canucks have named Markstrom as their #1 goalie. I don't mind that too much, as the team will be crap anyway. Hope Miller ends up in a nice spot. He did better than most expected.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Canucks have named Markstrom as their #1 goalie. I don't mind that too much, as the team will be crap anyway. Benning immediately backtracked on that statement saying he meant Markstrom will be the starter one day, not necessarily this year. Also they intend to and expect to resign Ryan Miller for some reason. Being a Canucks fan is... deflating. quote:“Eventually,” said Benning. “We’ve been grooming him the last couple of years to be at some point our No. 1 goalie, and I’ve been saying that for the last couple of years. I don’t know when that happens, but at some point that’s what our goal is.” http://theprovince.com/sports/hocke...starter#Canucks
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Canucks have named Markstrom as their #1 goalie. I don't mind that too much, as the team will be crap anyway. He'll do fine in Dallas.
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JoelJoel posted:He'll do fine in Dallas. they're already busy overpaying Bishop. And Niemi. And Lehtonen. E: $15.3 million worth of goaltending. 
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So I don't get how Vegas is supposed to be anything but a heap of poo poo next year. I don't know all the ins and outs of the expansion draft rules, but it seems like all they're going to get is a lovely 3rd/4th liners from every team, maybe a decent goalie, and maybe someone good from their high draft pick. Maybe an aging veteran that a team doesn't want to protect because of their cap hit or whatever. Is there any other outcome for this team next year than being bottom of their division?
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Is there any other outcome for this team next year than being bottom of their division? Yes, they're in the same one as the Canucks.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:So I don't get how Vegas is supposed to be anything but a heap of poo poo next year. I don't know all the ins and outs of the expansion draft rules, but it seems like all they're going to get is a lovely 3rd/4th liners from every team, maybe a decent goalie, and maybe someone good from their high draft pick. Maybe an aging veteran that a team doesn't want to protect because of their cap hit or whatever. They have a cap floor, so they'll also get highly paid under performing first/second liners. I'd be surprised if edmonton protects Eberle. Captain Eberle, Fleury in goal, they're already better than Phoenix.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:So I don't get how Vegas is supposed to be anything but a heap of poo poo next year. I don't know all the ins and outs of the expansion draft rules, but it seems like all they're going to get is a lovely 3rd/4th liners from every team, maybe a decent goalie, and maybe someone good from their high draft pick. Maybe an aging veteran that a team doesn't want to protect because of their cap hit or whatever. MAF gonna take them to the SCF where they will be crushed by Murray & The Gang on their way to a 3peat But seriously, no they're going to be pretty much awful. Maybe they get lucky and the Yotes or Nucks totally crater, and they don't finish at the bottom of the division, but they're not going to be good
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Powershift posted:They have a cap floor, so they'll also get highly paid under performing first/second liners. vegas is going to be the oilers 2 years ago with less #1 overall picks and arizona is going to feast on that
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hifi posted:vegas is going to be the oilers 2 years ago with less #1 overall picks and arizona is going to feast on that They should have the same number of #1 overall picks. Oilers will only have Nuge and McDavid left if they keep Nuge. Vegas will have Yakupov and Fleury(probably)
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May 31, 2017 20:27
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2 years ago the oilers had yak nuge and hall
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Yeah Vegas isn't gonna be a world beater by any means but as far as expansion teams go they shouldn't be half bad, and since the west is already largely a disaster they might not stand out as particularly horrible.
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Matt Zerella posted:*cuts in front of you on line* GIRARDI! i'm pretty sure the real move here would be to say you can have like, lindberg or grabner (maybe someone slightly better than those? maybe both of them?) if you agree to take staal, then buy out girardi since his contract is more buyout friendly
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Vegas is gonna have good goaltending and halfway decent forwards/defensemen. Their big issue is obviously going to be goals. They're not getting any stars. Their depth should be alright though. I could see them being one of those aggressively mediocre 11-13th seeds who flirt with the 8th seed for a little while but ultimately get exposed. A Carolina type.
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Powershift posted:I'd be surprised if edmonton protects Eberle.  This makes absolutely no sense. As it stands, the Oilers will go with a 7-3-1 and Eberle is easily one of the forwards they will protect, regardless of the fact the fans are trying to run him out of town. It makes no sense to give away an, at worst, 2nd line RW for absolutely nothing. Only way they wouldn't protect him was if they acquired another top 4 D and even then I'm pretty sure they'd have to trade Eberle to get said D.
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I feel like there's no better opportunity to go all sabermetrics in hockey than Vegas. Without a superstar, they can try things like rolling 4 lines with equal time each, experimenting on the power play and the penalty kill, and using their leverage over other teams to collect an unreasonable sum of draft picks in lieu of certain players that couldn't be protected. I'm really hoping Vegas tries to do something radical instead of just keeping their heads down and sucking for 5 years. Even if it fails, it would be entertaining to watch.
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the best they can hope for is like, sign thornton/radulov and pick bobby ryan, which strikes me as the opposite of sabremetrics
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Powershift posted:I think they can do more with that $6m off the books than they're going to get as a trade. They aren't going to expose Eberle so they can overpay someone you dummy.
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re: VGK and bad contracts Hockey Twitter had some fun to see if Vegas drafted a big bad team of dumb contracts and well... it ain't pretty https://twitter.com/ChartingHockey/status/870017675027652608
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:So I don't get how Vegas is supposed to be anything but a heap of poo poo next year. I don't know all the ins and outs of the expansion draft rules, but it seems like all they're going to get is a lovely 3rd/4th liners from every team, maybe a decent goalie, and maybe someone good from their high draft pick. Maybe an aging veteran that a team doesn't want to protect because of their cap hit or whatever.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:So I don't get how Vegas is supposed to be anything but a heap of poo poo this. just this. i dont get how vegas is supposed to make money; supposed to not always suck; supposed to have a fanbase. i dont get why the nhl needed a 31st team at all.
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