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Is it just me or is Hugo making evil grins whenever Erin isn't looking directly at him? Also, seriously, Friedrich, just make up a lie or something. Don't tell Poppy "you don't have to do anything; just sit back and wait while deceiving your girlfriend who incidentally I may have to assassinate."
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Rand Brittain posted:Is it just me or is Hugo making evil grins whenever Erin isn't looking directly at him? Friedrich isn't very good with people.
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Alright, so I finished It Hurts. I stand by my earlier judgement that the early pages are trash and can mostly be skipped, but the final ones are fantastic and the comic makes an incline in quality so smooth that, other than the jump at page 100, you don't really notice it's getting better until you look back. On the whole, a Good Comic, but I don't think I'd have liked it anywhere near as much if I hadn't been able to read it all in short succession.
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It's weird seeing (hypothetical) Esther drawn by John again after getting used to her design in Giant Days.
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Roach Warehouse posted:It's weird seeing (hypothetical) Esther drawn by John again after getting used to her design in Giant Days. It's not getting cancelled, is it? 
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Yvonmukluk posted:I'm just worried what this storyline means for Giant Days. I feel it might be weird to find out how Esther turns out after Sheffield whiel that story's still being published. Also kind of a spoiler. I want Esther & The Kids to be canon because those look adorable.
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Yvonmukluk posted:It's not getting cancelled, is it? How many times have Bobbins and Bad Machinery been canceled, again?
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Cat Mattress posted:How many times have Bobbins and Bad Machinery been canceled, again? I'm talking about Giant Days.
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I feel reasonably confident in saying that Giant Days isn't going anywhere. But who knows, I have no data to back that up beyond the July solicits.
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Regy Rusty posted:I'm so glad I got to experience It Hurts same BravestOfTheLamps posted:It is a good webcomic, it's understandable why webcomic readers might not like it.
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It seems that they stopped Des the only way they could: Tackleford's hatred of Wendlefield.
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On the one hand I'm really looking forward to seeing how this situation escalates out of control in Poppy On the other hand I'm really dreading this situation escalating out of control please be okay Kit, and also preferably don't side with the fat evil bird
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Man, the author comments on the never satisfied page a few days ago...quote:also, hey, real talk: ya'll are allowed to not like january. that's fine, she can be a jerk, you don't have to like her. but keep it civil alright? i don't want to hear about her deserving punishment or physical harm. she's a sixteen year old gay girl. it's not a good look how bad some of ya'll want her blood. who wishes violent harm on cartoon characters? And half the cast are insufferable teenagers, how can you decide one is more deserving of physical harm than the others??? Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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It's not Esther in the house. It'll be Zombie Shelley or Gibbous Moon or Shelby Winner or some other fakeout.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Man, the author comments on the never satisfied page a few days ago... lol at how the cast page has a pronoun guide.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:lol at how the cast page has a pronoun guide. January's character is that of an awful bully. She's aggressive, threatening, hyper-competitive, and she had just coerced a wimpy character who had accidentally turned out to be the winner of a survival contest to just forfeit, putting him in a terrible situation at home. So of course the #woke readership feels that, as a bully, she's gotta suffer some karmic retribution. And so the author goes on to point out that she's a gay girl so cool it, alright? Except sexism and homophobia don't seem to exist in the NS setting anyway. NS isn't too bad a webcomic, but it's so very shallow... The author going out to say that such character is non-binary and such other character is gay just feels like tokenism.
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Cat Mattress posted:January's character is that of an awful bully. She's aggressive, threatening, hyper-competitive, and she had just coerced a wimpy character who had accidentally turned out to be the winner of a survival contest to just forfeit, putting him in a terrible situation at home. So of course the #woke readership feels that, as a bully, she's gotta suffer some karmic retribution. And so the author goes on to point out that she's a gay girl so cool it, alright? Except sexism and homophobia don't seem to exist in the NS setting anyway. This kind of thing happens a lot though with all sorts of comics. If a character has really negative traits or does something that's terrible, you often get people wishing death on them and everything they are even remotely associated with. I can see a webcomic author telling people to chill when folks get really heated and are out for blood. I think it's more one of those things than said character can't do wrong because they are gay or whatever. Like the amount of vitriol people will get for a fictional character is something else. For that matter, it's a good reason for a comic these days to not have a comments section (since that tends to amplify this sort of thing when it does occur). It's a good that the author can evoke that kind of emotion but it just gets out of hand in many cases. But you gotta stamp down on that or things get really bad really fast.
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Cat Mattress posted:Never Satisfied is very #woke. The problem isn't that the cast page has a pronoun guide, it's that the cast page is literally nothing but a pronoun guide. They don't have characterization beyond their grammatical preference. A lot of the other characters are serious about winning and they were all kind of mad that Sylas one by technicality. What I find strange about NS is how it seems like a very diverse and egalitarian world with lots of ethnic groups cohabiting peacefully, but the background setting still congealed into a samey Euro-Mediterranean fantasy city.
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Nuns with Guns posted:A lot of the other characters are serious about winning and they were all kind of mad that Sylas one by technicality. As the hover text helpfully points out, "90% of that screaming is just January". Nuns with Guns posted:What I find strange about NS is how it seems like a very diverse and egalitarian world with lots of ethnic groups cohabiting peacefully, but the background setting still congealed into a samey Euro-Mediterranean fantasy city. You mean, it's actually very shallow in its worldbuilding and characterization?
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Nuns with Guns posted:Man, the author comments on the never satisfied page a few days ago... Why does it matter that the character is gay in this instance Like, it's not bad enough that people are mad or out for blood over this teenage character, but because she's gay too that makes it worse I guess? I don't read the comic and probably never will because I really don't like the art style but that just feels like a cheap guilt trip
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:lol at how the cast page has a pronoun guide. why is the art in every xee xi xo xum comic completely identical
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imo people can just be gay without the story being about them being gay and so on im reasonably sure the author isnt going youre not allowed to hate her cause shes gay theyre just saying whoa dial back the reaponse to my work here Hogge Wild posted:why is the art in every xee xi xo xum comic completely identical because creators who make similar things often know each other and influence each others styles and you arent picking up on the smaller differences between peoples personal art styles Tollymain fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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xee xi xo xum, i smell the blood of a cis white maleTollymain posted:imo people can just be gay without the story being about them being gay and so on Just lol that their first response was not to mock people for being angry at a fictional character.
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Hogge Wild posted:why is the art in every xee xi xo xum comic completely identical I think that's just what insular art communities do. Same thing with animes, or old superhero comics.
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Tollymain posted:because creators who make similar things often know each other and influence each others styles and you arent picking up on the smaller differences between peoples personal art styles There would still be more variance than this. Back in the early days of webbed comic you'd see groups of webcartoonist friends with a pretty diverse range of styles. Look at the old Homestuck flashes, especially the later ones, you'll see a ton of different art styles on display from the same community. This feels more like people are being taught to draw a certain way for an art school degree and they all get tasked with making a webcomic that ties into their coursework. Either that or the even more  answer, they don't actually draw the comics themselves, there are artists who ghost on dozens of comics for quick cash until they burn out and someone new comes along and that's why every few years there seems like a new style that these comics all seem to be in.Pavlov posted:I think that's just what insular art communities do. Same thing with animes, or old superhero comics. Yeah but it made sense for old Superhero comics were made to conform to a house style because it was easier to maintain the look of the brand, things wouldn't noticeably change too much if one artist was indisposed for whatever reason.
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Cat Mattress posted:As the hover text helpfully points out, "90% of that screaming is just January". Geeze... hiding that vital information in hover text really changes to tone of the whole thing. Cat Mattress posted:You mean, it's actually very shallow in its worldbuilding and characterization? There's not enough comic for me to decide if the characters are flat stereotypes because of shallow writing or if things will fill out in interest ways later, but yeah the worldbuilding in this comic and a few similar ones always make be wonder why the world turned out (at least visually) not being that different from our own historical periods. super sweet best pal posted:ither that or the even more If you're going to get that you might as well speculate that these webcomic-makers are all vat grown and every few years a new crop is released with an aesthetic market research says will be the most widely-appealing.
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super sweet best pal posted:There would still be more variance than this. Back in the early days of webbed comic you'd see groups of webcartoonist friends with a pretty diverse range of styles. Look at the old Homestuck flashes, especially the later ones, you'll see a ton of different art styles on display from the same community. This feels more like people are being taught to draw a certain way for an art school degree and they all get tasked with making a webcomic that ties into their coursework. Either that or the even more Eh styles get popular and people influence and learn from each other within their communities. Then some people get really tired of that, diverge and do something completely different. Then a community builds around those artists and they all learn from/influence each other and the cycle repeats. This has been a thing for as long as art has been a thing.
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What little I've seen of this webcomic just looks exactly like what little I've seen of Steven Universe.
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super sweet best pal posted:There would still be more variance than this. Back in the early days of webbed comic you'd see groups of webcartoonist friends with a pretty diverse range of styles. Look at the old Homestuck flashes, especially the later ones, you'll see a ton of different art styles on display from the same community. This feels more like people are being taught to draw a certain way for an art school degree and they all get tasked with making a webcomic that ties into their coursework. Either that or the even more I dunno. I mean artists being influenced by other artists- whether as youth or as contemporaries- is just, the thing so I think all it is now a days is that the internet allows for such a glut of content that people feel the need to ride the wave on whatever's popular in order to start picking up an audience. Also they might just like the style or whatever series they picked it up from. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all. Also also the internet's ease of entry means you're not seeing "professional" work, someone who's spent years developing their own style, adding and changing elements of other's styles along the way, until it becomes fairly unique (in theory), and then that crop is cut even further down by marketing and editors who say "nah not taking this to print". Now we're seeing amateurs and students still trying to find their own identity, driven by the fan-market that wants more of the latest fad or trend. Not that that's a bad thing or anything though. It's pretty cool imo.
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Every young webcomic artist today grew up consuming the same Cartoon Network/Disney/Nicktoons nonstop from the cradle and on into their adulthood. The style we see today is an amalgam of the most popular and/or gayest of these cartoons, reinforced by academic instructors who are increasingly influenced by the same material as their students.
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Dabir posted:What little I've seen of this webcomic just looks exactly like what little I've seen of Steven Universe. ah yes it was that does tviv still have a thread about that show and have there been more pedos outed?
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After actually looking at Never Satisfied, I'd say it's problem isn't that it's generic, kind of the opposite of that problem yet a way worse version, it looks like the artist imitates random styles from everywhere.I think I even saw Dresden Codak style on one page and why anyone would want to imitate that is a mystery we'll never solve.
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Is the joke supposed to be everybody on this page is doing the same low-quality attempt at the same hot take.
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Typical Pubbie posted:Every young webcomic artist today grew up consuming the same Cartoon Network/Disney/Nicktoons nonstop from the cradle and on into their adulthood. The style we see today is an amalgam of the most popular and/or gayest of these cartoons, reinforced by academic instructors who are increasingly influenced by the same material as their students. CURSE THOSE IVORY TOWER LIBERAL ACADEMICS
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super sweet best pal posted:After actually looking at Never Satisfied, I'd say it's problem isn't that it's generic, kind of the opposite of that problem yet a way worse version, it looks like the artist imitates random styles from everywhere.I think I even saw Dresden Codak style on one page and why anyone would want to imitate that is a mystery we'll never solve. haha, post the dresden page
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Nuns with Guns posted:Geeze... hiding that vital information in hover text really changes to tone of the whole thing.
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