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RISCy Business posted:what about poor old people better than rich old people, for sure
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Bloody posted:better than rich old people, for sure hell yeah
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May 31, 2017 23:37
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Bloody posted:better than rich old people, for sure
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May 31, 2017 23:50
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Bloody posted:better than rich old people, for sure
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Jun 1, 2017 01:21
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Bloody posted:better than rich old people, for sure here's a list of things worse than rich old people:
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Jun 1, 2017 07:48
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re: background check chat. i had a few short jobs go down in flames before things settled down and don't list them on my resume because i like being employable. i've never been background checked, just criminal record. how screwed am i if one happens?
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Jun 1, 2017 16:57
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jony neuemonic posted:re: background check chat. i had a few short jobs go down in flames before things settled down and don't list them on my resume because i like being employable. i've never been background checked, just criminal record. how screwed am i if one happens? unless it's the government, you'll be fine they require your consent to verify any past employment, all these agencies aren't really that sophisticated
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Jun 1, 2017 17:04
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jony neuemonic posted:re: background check chat. i had a few short jobs go down in flames before things settled down and don't list them on my resume because i like being employable. i've never been background checked, just criminal record. how screwed am i if one happens? Your resume is supposed to put you in the most glowing light possible. You don't have to put bad jobs you don't want to sell yourself with on it. Just don't lie if asked about the gaps or imply that you've listed all of your jobs on your resume. You might lose out because of short/bad jobs but you definitely will lose out if you lie.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:04
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just throwing this out there but maybe gendered forenames are bad
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Jun 1, 2017 17:08
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mishaq posted:don't stay here nah you're going to be stuck with my terrible posting for a while yet i'm afraid
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Jun 1, 2017 17:10
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ThePeavstenator posted:Your resume is supposed to put you in the most glowing light possible. You don't have to put bad jobs you don't want to sell yourself with on it. Just don't lie if asked about the gaps or imply that you've listed all of your jobs on your resume. You might lose out because of short/bad jobs but you definitely will lose out if you lie. resumes can have gaps and skip over things and show you in the best light once you get an offer you fill out the official employment application form and its there that you have to be thorough and complete. every poo poo job you had (with contacts), every place youve ever lived, the precise month and year you graduated from college/high school/reform school, whether youve been convicted of a crime - all of it. thats what they use for the background check (and it goes in your file so they can have cause to fire you if theres even a tiny discrepancy)
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Jun 1, 2017 17:17
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FMguru posted:theres a difference between a resume and an employment application Yeah I know but the question was about resumes. Leaving stuff off of an employment application or background check is lying by omission, leaving things off of your resume that might not reflect positively on you is not.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:22
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FMguru posted:theres a difference between a resume and an employment application I don't think I've ever filled out one of these
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Jun 1, 2017 17:32
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FamDav posted:I don't think I've ever filled out one of these because that's a form for security clearance, not a job application
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Jun 1, 2017 17:34
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The_Franz posted:because that's a form for security clearance, not a job application security clearance has you fill out many more details than what they are describing
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Jun 1, 2017 17:38
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St Evan Echoes posted:just throwing this out there but maybe gendered forenames are bad okay sam we get it, you really like your name
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Jun 1, 2017 17:40
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FamDav posted:security clearance has you fill out many more details than what they are describing idk, i've never had to fill out every place i've ever lived or list high school jobs with contacts on an application, even when applying for a federal job where part of the application process included being fingerprinted for an fbi background check. i've never applied for something that needed real clearance though and i probably never will since i'm a dual citizen and that's basically an automatic disqualifier. The_Franz fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Jun 1, 2017 17:44
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looking at the results of my background check, they looked at: whether my college education matched what I claimed criminal felony and misdemeanor record, state and federal prohibited parties - no idea what this means credit history social security number trace - also not sure
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Jun 1, 2017 18:24
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jony neuemonic posted:re: background check chat. i had a few short jobs go down in flames before things settled down and don't list them on my resume because i like being employable. i've never been background checked, just criminal record. how screwed am i if one happens? Probably not at all. They'll just check the places that you listed to make sure you actually worked there. loving lol at the fintech firm that pulled an offer after putting me through literally the worst-tier background check company that would demand I do their job for them and provide them with rando notarized documents. poo poo took a month. I think I even offered to provide my own CORI records at that point, because loving lol. Check for the new job took three days and that was with full criminal, credit, SSN, etc. interviewing, job hunting, and background checks are garbage.
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Jun 1, 2017 18:35
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i'm getting to the point where i want to just start leaving jobs off my resume because there's so many of them (like before/during school/co-ops). they're already minimized to like a single sentence, but i might just remove them, or remove any description also im probably getting old enough i gotta worry about age discrimination lmao
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Jun 1, 2017 18:39
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The Management posted:looking at the results of my background check, they looked at: first one probably means checking for any close associations with criminal figures or industrial competitors second one is probably verifying that your social security number is the one issued to you by the SSA because it's shockingly easy to just assume a dead person's SSN and ditch a lot of your past mistakes.
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Jun 1, 2017 18:40
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background checks in europe are pretty chill, especially intra-national. company then just calls state police and taxmen to see whats your crime and credit and employment status. you often do nothing, sometimes you need to email a scan of some diploma or certificate you have
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Jun 1, 2017 18:40
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OWLS! posted:loving lol at the fintech firm that pulled an offer after putting me through literally the worst-tier background check company that would demand I do their job for them and provide them with rando notarized documents. poo poo took a month. I think I even offered to provide my own CORI records at that point, because loving lol. the outsourced background check agencies are so bad and invasive, im sure they're responsible for a non-insignificant amount of identity theft lol at the idea of someone in the philippines demanding I supply notarized documents to them
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Jun 1, 2017 18:42
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background checks, dress codes, drug tests and security clearances are all  you can't keep me down im a fuckin rebel  no but seriously im too old for that poo poo
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Jun 1, 2017 18:43
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the security clearance track isn't too bad if you're the type of person who is ok with that type of environment. i've heard some places are pretty laid back once you're actually in. i wouldn't tell anyone given the chance to strictly avoid it as long as they're prepared for the slog of getting in
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Jun 1, 2017 18:45
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that being said- holy poo poo that environment was not for me
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Jun 1, 2017 18:46
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note that they never verified my employment with my current or previous employers. they never even asked for references.VOTE YES ON 69 posted:i'm getting to the point where i want to just start leaving jobs off my resume because there's so many of them (like before/during school/co-ops). they're already minimized to like a single sentence, but i might just remove them, or remove any description do this immediately. nobody gives a poo poo about things you did in school, and everyone hates a long resumé. quote:also im probably getting old enough i gotta worry about age discrimination lmao they can usually get a a pretty good estimate of your age by looking at the years you attended college.
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Jun 1, 2017 19:00
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The Management posted:they can usually get a a pretty good estimate of your age by looking at the years you attended college. 
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Jun 1, 2017 19:04
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everything in a background check other than maybe validating your qualifications and employment history (i.e. whether or not you were employed at a particular company between these two dates and nothing else) should be illegal
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Jun 1, 2017 19:07
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:i'm getting to the point where i want to just start leaving jobs off my resume because there's so many of them (like before/during school/co-ops). they're already minimized to like a single sentence, but i might just remove them, or remove any description quote:also im probably getting old enough i gotta worry about age discrimination lmao "they're looking for someone with more startup experience" "you see the five startups on my resume, right?" "uuuuuh... they're super early stage culture fit blabh blah"
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Jun 1, 2017 19:08
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FMguru posted:thats why you leave off the years you attended/graduated you can leave it off the resume but they're still gonna request your transcript.
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Jun 1, 2017 19:10
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C.H.O.M.E posted:you can leave it off the resume but they're still gonna request your transcript. yeah if you're applying to work at the garbage dump my transcript? lmao
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Jun 1, 2017 19:28
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:yeah if you're applying to work at the garbage dump they can request it straight from the university without your involvement other than signing the background check forms
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Jun 1, 2017 19:34
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is this for hiring recent grads or something? because what trash employer would need to look at college transcripts from someone who graduated 15 years ago.
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Jun 1, 2017 19:54
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Diva Cupcake posted:is this for hiring recent grads or something? because what trash employer would need to look at college transcripts from someone who graduated 15 years ago. my current employer verified that I graduated, not sure if they got my actual transcript
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Jun 1, 2017 19:58
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The_Franz posted:idk, i've never had to fill out every place i've ever lived or list high school jobs with contacts on an application, even when applying for a federal job where part of the application process included being fingerprinted for an fbi background check. A long-time buddy of mine does intelligence work involving computers in the Air Force and has a top secret clearance and AFAIK is still a dual Japanese and American citizen.
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Jun 1, 2017 19:59
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it depends on the countries involved and what your clearance is for
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Jun 1, 2017 20:00
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qirex posted:my current employer verified that I graduated, not sure if they got my actual transcript they dont care that you got a c- in japanese language 1A your freshman year (because you wanted to really understand what all your favorite naruto characters were saying)
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Jun 1, 2017 20:04
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lol if anyone actually had to review it since I went to hippie school with "narrative evaluations" instead of letter grades so my transcript is like 50 pages
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lol i have been employee number 5, employee number 3,xxx, employee number 1xx,xxx and not once have i ever supplied a transcript or been background checked (aside from an actual govt clearance, which wasn't part of the hiring process)
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