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Yardbomb posted:I hope the coal voters are never allowed to have a job again to be honest, it's too dangerous to allow if they'll gladly sign off to kill everyone else over a poo poo job like coal in the first place. You are correct, the world needs more social studies majors.
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The Glumslinger posted:thats 143% lol, good eye, man.
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squirrelzipper posted:If it helps the people who deserve Trump are the ones arguing that there's been no reduction in standing or soft power through this and his other decisions re: NATO and NAFTA. And that's certainly been said in the last couple pages. All right, well, I'm phone posting, but if that's true, sure, I agree.
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DoctorGonzo posted:You are correct, the world needs more Dead conservatives is the answer. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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This is actually a pretty good speech. Obama had a way of sounding too technical and disconnected.
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The Glumslinger posted:thats 143% People were allowed to pick multiple "top issues"
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I hoping that this somehow leads to sanctions against the US. It's very self-flagellating to say but holy poo poo I wanna see the GOP seethe when the EU and Canada sanction us because we are cutting green energy funding in favor of some weird steampunk fetish our admin has
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repeating posted:Time for some juicy "clean coal" talk. Ugh. ironically, "clean" coal is worse for global warming than if you burnt it in the dirtiest way possible yeah you get acid rain and terrible air quality but it also blocks sunlight
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DoctorGonzo posted:The drone industry and the surveilance complex love Obama BIGLY. Some hope. Oh shut up with this, we're talking International norms here (drone striking dudes in caves is one of them unfortunately).
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repeating posted:Probably already beaten by pages but the US is officially pulling out of the Paris climate agreement, and Trump plans to negotiate a new deal. Haha, do you think anything trump will do on behalf of climate change is going to matter a drat iota? Gonna literally be cut carbonization of soda by 1%
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buglord posted:This is actually a pretty good speech. Obama had a way of sounding too technical and disconnected. Uhm, only if you ignore the fact that every single statement he makes is a lie.
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Seriously: why exactly does Trump want want to pull out of this deal? What does he have to benefit by doing this? Why does he care about keeping his promise to dumbshit coal country (who already votes Republican)? He doesn't give a poo poo about keeping promises unless it personally benefits him and I'm not sure how pulling out from this agreement benefits him in any financial way. Is it really as simple as wanting to undo everything Obama did out of spite?
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"I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris" is maybe the dumbest line I've heard him speak from prepared remarks as POTUSMind_Taker posted:Seriously: why exactly does Trump want want to pull out of this deal? What does he have to benefit by doing this? yes. the accord lets nations set their own standards. there's literally nothing in there to renegotiate, it's all just trolling libs the entire right wing of the us is about "kek libs" basically literally "u mad?" politics
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:People were allowed to pick multiple "top issues" Still makes a pie chart a weird choice to depict that information.
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moostaffa posted:Uhm, only if you ignore the fact that every single statement he makes is a lie. Well he actually admitted global warming is real halfway through the speech which was surprising and his base will probably ignore it completely.
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"At what point do they stop laughing at us as a country" Looking like at least 3 more years
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Mind_Taker posted:Seriously: why exactly does Trump want want to pull out of this deal? What does he have to benefit by doing this? Yes
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Solaris 2.0 posted:Oh shut up with this, we're talking International norms here (drone striking dudes in caves is one of them unfortunately). Well at least America can still keep killing people abroad. Keep your chin up, friend!
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Man, I know it's like a "no poo poo" thing at this point, but every now and then I just find myself shocked at the sheer amount of disillusionment I feel about my country now. I know a lot of the issues that we're seeing presented under Trump are not new issues, but having our gross, flabby underbelly laid so proudly and brazenly bare is deeply depressing.
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moostaffa posted:Uhm, only if you ignore the fact that every single statement he makes is a lie. Mind_Taker posted:Is it really as simple as wanting to undo everything Obama did out of spite?
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Phoix posted:Well he actually admitted global warming is real halfway through the speech which was surprising and his base will probably ignore it completely. They've already explained away the temperature rise by saying it's a natural cyclical thing and its all totally OK.
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Mind_Taker posted:Seriously: why exactly does Trump want want to pull out of this deal? What does he have to benefit by doing this? That's like the closest thing the Trump Administration has to a doctrine.
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Mystic Mongol posted:It's a non binding agreement so no. It's basically 194 countries agreeing to each find their own way to improve their carbon emissions. There is no enforcement mechanism, it is just every country agreeing that climate change is real and to do something. Leaving it is an announcement that you intend to emit more carbon, because reducing carbon in ANYs way is compliance. Even if you fail to reduce carbon emissions, you are OK in the agreement because all they ask you to do is explain why and promise to do better later down the road. Its a hilariously weak agreement. Trump legit believes its a bad deal that harms America because he believes Bannon's lies and because he is incredibly stupid.
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PerniciousKnid posted:Germany came back from WWII to be a major power again, we can come back from Trump. To be fair, they were able to come back because foreign powers removed and then dismantled the nazi party. We on the other hand can expect deplorable to run us for the
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DoctorGonzo posted:You are correct, the world needs more social studies majors. lol yeah coal is a Real Job
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Majorian posted:All right, well, I'm phone posting, but if that's true, sure, I agree. I don't think anyone has been arguing that there hasn't been a reduction in "standing or soft power" but those are vaguely defined things, especially in this circumstance. So far the reduction in standing and soft power has been Bush-era "America has a bad president" levels
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Mind_Taker posted:Seriously: why exactly does Trump want want to pull out of this deal? What does he have to benefit by doing this? He said he'd do it at rallies and stupid people cheered loudly for it, so he wants them to cheer louder.
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Waffles Inc. posted:"I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris" is maybe the dumbest line I've heard him speak from prepared remarks as POTUS Especially considering that Pittsburgh went Clinton by a huge margin.
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Sloober posted:They've already explained away the temperature rise by saying it's a natural cyclical thing and its all totally OK. Naturally accelerated by humans.
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Fojar38 posted:I don't think anyone has been arguing that there hasn't been a reduction in "standing or soft power" but those are vaguely defined things, especially in this circumstance. So far the reduction in standing and soft power has been Bush-era "America has a bad president" levels Nope. But keeping loving that chicken.
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Mind_Taker posted:Seriously: why exactly does Trump want want to pull out of this deal? What does he have to benefit by doing this? In no particular order 1.) Spite Obummer 2.) ENVIRONMENT and REGULATIONS have derailed projects of his in the past so gently caress 'em 3.) Climate change has become a political rather than scientific issue at the national level, so it's a win for team R 4.) Reince and/or Bannon told him to
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Mind_Taker posted:Seriously: why exactly does Trump want want to pull out of this deal? What does he have to benefit by doing this? Pretty sure it's solely because European leaders were mean to him and he's trying to punish them.
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Jaxyon posted:lol yeah coal is a Real Job Actually, it is.
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squirrelzipper posted:Nope. But keeping loving that chicken. It hasn't gotten to Bush era levels? Gosh, that's a far rosier assessment than I'd give personally.
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DoctorGonzo posted:Actually, it is. It's a dying industry that is rapidly becoming obsolete.
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Mind_Taker posted:Is it really as simple as wanting to undo everything Obama did out of spite? STAC Goat posted:That's like the closest thing the Trump Administration has to a doctrine. So we are dealing with a Bizarro Obama situation. We need to find a way to get Obama to join the Republican party and start pushing for more coal/guns/god
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DoctorGonzo posted:Actually, it is. The coal industry needs to die so its workers can move on to industries that aren't killing the world.
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I mean building new wind power is already cheaper than building new coal power. As soon as the cost to generate power from wind drops below the cost to generate coal, the coal market is going to drop out within a decade to zero. Who benefits? The companies and countries that adopted first. Basically the USA is in the process of another economic self own.
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