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EugeneJ posted:What if Washington/California/Oregon/New York united for a single-payer health plan and used Canada as a go-between to import drugs cheaply, bypassing the FDA The CA legislature is currently debating a single payer plan right now http://senatestream-lh.akamaihd.net/i/Sen_TV1@118077/index_360_av-p.m3u8?sd=10&rebase=on Here is the stream to the debate on it
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Majorian posted:That's, uhhh... called an occupation. Which is a thing that can get messy. what's messy is if we put them into camps to reeducate them on things other than burning coal
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Fulchrum posted:Okay, but whats the excuse for leftists still saying that her speech was "gently caress all of you, I hope you die in a ditch. I really hate you on a personal level and want to laugh at your pain. Bye." Because Hillary Clinton made the speech.
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business hammocks posted:I'm sure we'd have lots of fun absorbing millions of refugees from the failing south and rust belt.
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The Glumslinger posted:The CA legislature is currently debating a single payer plan right now Cool thanks
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Fulchrum posted:Okay, but whats the excuse for leftists still saying that her speech was "gently caress all of you, I hope you die in a ditch. I really hate you on a personal level and want to laugh at your pain. Bye." I'll respond in the Dems thread. maskenfreiheit posted:what's messy is if we put them into camps to reeducate them on things other than burning coal That would honestly probably work better. Not well, but better.
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quote:BREAKING: Joe Biden Launching Fundraising PAC Amid 2020 Speculation 
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So are you guys really doing the "Southerners are ignorant hillbillies" thing
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I'd vote diamond joe.
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Joe Biden will be 78 in 2020. There's no goddamn way in hell he'll run. More likely he's leveraging his personal connections to raise money for other Dem candidates.
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I asked my Facebook wall if anyone actually thought jobs would be created because we withdrew from the Paris Accord and the replies are uh, loving terrifying. Christ.  And peep this sick avi 
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Knifegrab posted:I'd vote diamond joe. I'd vote for Onion Joe Biden, not so hype about real Joe Biden tbh I think a lot of people forget what a centrist he is behind that likeable demeanor.
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Mr Interweb posted:Is there anything Trump can do that can keep the coal industry alive, at least in the near term? More subsidies? You are assuming Trump doesn't gently caress over people. He will most likely rob the coal owners blind, lose the money to some other conman and then act like it was their fault for slighting him.
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Hillary was too centrist for me, but sign me up for Joe Biden  Not saying that he isn't cool, but I'm sure that there are a ton of people who would unironically feel that way
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The Glumslinger posted:Hillary was too centrist for me, but sign me up for Joe Biden ...but I want to have a beer with him
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Fulchrum posted:Okay, but whats the excuse for leftists still saying that her speech was "gently caress all of you, I hope you die in a ditch. I really hate you on a personal level and want to laugh at your pain. Bye." That was me. Easy mistake to make.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:...but I want to have a beer with him I do too, but he is the white Corey Booker Who I would also have a beer with if given the opportunity
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He may have voted for the Iraq war, but I like to imagine he drives a cool card with shades on, which makes it all ok.
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buglord posted:And they'd still have fun voting the way they do. They wouldn't be white. They would be the victims of those people. Also east coast still racist. Don't know about New Cascadia.
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Low Desert Punk posted:So are you guys really doing the "Southerners are ignorant hillbillies" thing I think the term "southerners" is used more in terms with rural culture now and covers a pretty large area, even up north. Like way north. Alberta north.
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botany posted:I'd vote for Onion Joe Biden, not so hype about real Joe Biden tbh Yeah, I would vote for him in the GE, but he's not the nominee we need for 2020.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:There is nothing they can do to un-ring the bell with Coal. Whether you're talking about giant self-driving Caterpillars out in the strip mines of Wyoming or new shaft mining construction in the Appalachians, that ship has sailed. All these old (and not so old) coal miners know exactly why they're sitting on their asses unemployed. They watched the companies buy the machines that could do 10 times the aggregate work with 1/5th the staff. They saw it coming, they were standing on the tracks and even though the train was only moving at 5mph, they still got hit. Well put
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Oh, and the further topic of CA doing poo poo, here is everything that the state legislature has passed in the last 24 hours https://twitter.com/hayesdavenport/status/870414521407463424 https://twitter.com/hayesdavenport/status/870415386767892480 https://twitter.com/hayesdavenport/status/870416104253906944 https://twitter.com/hayesdavenport/status/870416690378440704 https://twitter.com/hayesdavenport/status/870417136140800000 This is in addition to the single payer proposal that is currently being debated
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The Glumslinger posted:Oh, and the further topic of CA doing poo poo, here is everything that the state legislature has passed in the last 24 hours So, what's the housing market in not-the-bay-area like?
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The Glumslinger posted:Hillary was too centrist for me, but sign me up for Joe Biden He's too loving old. frankly he was too loving old when Obama picked him for VP, I get why they did it but they should have picked someone else to groom, because while I personally disliked Clinton less than many on the left. She was too loving old. it's a very stressful job and not one that should be done by someone who is knocking on deaths door. Frankly I think it's high time for a constitutional amendment setting a maximum age for being president.
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The Glumslinger posted:Oh, and the further topic of CA doing poo poo, here is everything that the state legislature has passed in the last 24 hours isn't norcal super red and they can never pass any kind of tax hikes because of it
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botany posted:I'd vote for Onion Joe Biden, not so hype about real Joe Biden tbh Matt Yglesias said he'd pick Bernie Sanders over Joe Biden so you know he's pretty bad
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BiohazrD posted:isn't norcal super red and they can never pass any kind of tax hikes because of it Dems have a supermajority of both houses, I believe.
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BiohazrD posted:isn't norcal super red and they can never pass any kind of tax hikes because of it California is weird in that it takes a 2/3 supermajority to raise taxes or pass a budget. So even though Dems have a supermajority, they have to convince enough of their caucus to get to 2/3 And it's not so much norcal as everything inland is super red, the coasts and major cities are very blue.
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BiohazrD posted:isn't norcal super red and they can never pass any kind of tax hikes because of it Only the furthest north, where no one lives. Proud of my state. 
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TyrantWD posted:Blue states have the victory in the bag. Just make opioids available over the counter, and the red states will kill themselves. Vermont is the per capita winner in opiates. But it's like 2 electoral college votes, so if Bernie Sanders must be sacrificed, go right ahead.
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I always forget its weird that bars around here stay open until 4. It was such a culture shock when I started traveling and found out that bars closed at like the time I would go out at home. Pakled posted:Joe Biden will be 78 in 2020. There's no goddamn way in hell he'll run. Yeah, this doesn't mean anything more than MAYBE Joe Biden is MAYBE thinking of MAYBE running so he's getting the ball running and doing the pre-pre-work. But he could just as easily just be raising money for other political advocacy or bar tabs or something because even if he doesn't plan to run for oldest President ever he still isn't ready to retire from the politics.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I asked my Facebook wall if anyone actually thought jobs would be created because we withdrew from the Paris Accord and the replies are uh, loving terrifying. Christ. A face with three assholes. A good avatar.
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I'd vote for a leaking bag of dogshit if it would win the 2020 election. Biden as president is fine by me if the alternative is 4 more years of Trump destroying the fabric of this country.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:So, what's the housing market in not-the-bay-area like? Completely awful from tip to taint. I've been looking because fiancee wants to move back at some point in the next few years.
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I checked and the Dems in CA legislature have almost exactly 2/3 seats in the Senate and Assembly. So they need every Dem on board to raise taxes or pass a budget and I'm sure there are a good number of moderate Dems that would balk at single payer. edit: I remember a few years ago there was a ballot initiative here in LA to raise the sales tax by I think a quarter of a percent to fund faster expansion of the subway/public transit system. I was super happy to see it got 66.6% in favor but then reading the news it turns out it failed because you need 66.7% 
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Arrgytehpirate posted:...but I want to have a beer with him I hope you like O'Douls
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STAC Goat posted:I always forget its weird that bars around here stay open until 4. It was such a culture shock when I started traveling and found out that bars closed at like the time I would go out at home.
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