Robo Reagan posted:

the important takeaway is that bernie never had a chance at winning

PathAsc posted:

True, the main two parties suck poo poo and would have had him killed if they couldn't bury him in their own parties like the dems did. Kill the nobles.

quote:

The conservative Republican, who represents a district in southern Michigan, says he isn't worried about climate change because if it is happening, a higher power than Trump will take care of it, USA Today reports. "I believe there's been climate change since the beginning of time. I believe there are cycles," he told constituents at a town hall meeting in Coldwater days before Trump's announcement. "Do I think man has some impact? Yeah, of course. Can man change the entire universe? No," he said, per the HuffPost.

"Why do I believe that? Well, as a Christian, I believe that there is a creator in God who is much bigger than us," the 65-year-old lawmaker continued. "And I'm confident that, if there's a real problem, he can take care of it." Walberg also joked that it would be helpful if climate change did something about the cold in Michigan and the humidity in Washington, DC.

Blue Train posted:

heh

PathAsc posted:

CNN: still tarded

Blue Train posted:

CNN is poo poo but tbf the first and third ones are op-eds

Tallgeese posted:

The problem is that CNN is full of blatantly partisan, craven hacks .

Tei posted:

Hitler was bad but not "haha, we are going to kill the whole
Planet" bad.

Robo Reagan posted:

lol earth's hosed

Toadvine posted:

The planet's been scheduled to +2° for a good while now.

Toadvine posted:

The planet's been scheduled to +2° for a good while now.

Trump leaving the Paris accord is like a shipwreck victim leaving the other leaky-lifeboat occupants to go swimming after a mirage. Dumb and rushed, but odds of rescue are the same.

Tei posted:

My biggest fear is that we will trigger some feedback loop that end killing all life in Earth.

Also, probably theres a point of no return where nations instead of fighting the causes of the change, have to put money in fighting the effects.

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

Toadvine posted:

The planet's been scheduled to +2° for a good while now.

Trump leaving the Paris accord is like a shipwreck victim leaving the other leaky-lifeboat occupants to go swimming after a mirage. Dumb and rushed, but odds of rescue are the same.

Toadvine posted:

Pretty sure that point of no return (2° wise) was a few years ago. Every new fossil fuel reserve since then is a kick in the teeth.

Once the effects are apparent enough we'll hopefully see a decarbonization push.

I shudder to say it but politicians and tree huggers won't save us, engineers are our only hope.


We could have all these things yesterday! if it was a profitable course of action for the corporations controlling our governments!

quote:

Donald Trump says he is “not a big believer in global warming.” He has called it “a total hoax,” “bullshit” and “pseudoscience.”

But he is also trying to build a sea wall designed to protect one of his golf courses from “global warming and its effects.”

The New York billionaire is applying for permission to erect a coastal protection works to prevent erosion at his seaside golf resort, Trump International Golf Links & Hotel Ireland, in County Clare.

A permit application for the wall, filed by Trump International Golf Links Ireland and reviewed by POLITICO, explicitly cites global warming and its consequences — increased erosion due to rising sea levels and extreme weather this century — as a chief justification for building the structure.

The zoning application raises further questions about how the billionaire developer would confront a risk he has publicly minimized but that has been identified as a defining challenge of this era by world leaders, global industry and the American military. His public disavowal of climate science at the same time he moves to secure his own holdings against the effects of climate change also illustrates the conflict between his political rhetoric and the realities of running a business with seaside assets in the 21st century.

“It's diabolical," said former South Carolina Republican Rep. Bob Inglis, an advocate of conservative solutions to climate change. “Donald Trump is working to ensure his at-risk properties and his company is trying to figure out how to deal with sea level rise. Meanwhile, he’s saying things to audiences that he must know are not true. … You have a soft place in your heart for people who are honestly ignorant, but people who are deceitful, that’s a different thing.”

Neither Trump’s spokeswoman, Hope Hicks, nor Alan Garten, the general counsel of the Trump Organization, the umbrella company for Trump’s business ventures, responded to requests for comment.

Blue Train posted:

Let me tell you about Trump's other wall

Toadvine posted:

Pretty sure that point of no return (2° wise) was a few years ago. Every new fossil fuel reserve opened since then is a kick in the teeth.

Once the effects are apparent enough we'll hopefully see a decarbonization push.

I shudder to say it but politicians and tree huggers won't save us, engineers are our only hope.

Toadvine posted:

We could have all these things yesterday! if it was a profitable course of action for the corporations controlling our governments!

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

The interesting thing is that with this move Donald is effectively removing himself from the seat of leader of the world, leaving the place now free for whoever feels like taking it.

Toadvine posted:

The planet's been scheduled to +2° for a good while now.

Trump leaving the Paris accord is like a shipwreck victim leaving the other leaky-lifeboat occupants to go swimming after a mirage. Dumb and rushed, but odds of rescue are the same.

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

The interesting thing is that with this move Donald is effectively removing himself from the seat of leader of the world, leaving the place now free for whoever feels like taking it.

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

good stuff

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

I hope it's Putin. At least he wouldn't cry when Macron shakes his hand too hard

Toadvine posted:

Pretty sure that point of no return (2° wise) was a few years ago. Every new fossil fuel reserve opened since then is a kick in the teeth.

Once the effects are apparent enough we'll hopefully see a decarbonization push.

I shudder to say it but politicians and tree huggers won't save us, engineers are our only hope.


We could have all these things yesterday! if it was a profitable course of action for the corporations controlling our governments!

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

https://twitter.com/duffelblog/status/870279129517760512


hahaha jokes on you during putins first meet with macron recently macron told him off for all the bad things russia did like chechen gays and putin ended up whinging "fake news" at him pretty much

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/france-russia-an-improbable-reset-that-quickly-turned-sour-58127

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

I said I want Putin as world leader because he's not a sissy like Trump; I don't see how that joke's on me.

Tei posted:

<Fascist> America first!
<Neoliberal> American first!
<Fascist> Lets close doors and forget the rest of the world exist!
<Neoliberal> Hell, yea, lets clos... wait a minute. I have a factory in India and 5 in China!, my economic interest are there!.
<Fascist> America... wat?
<Neoliberal> If USA pull out and leave the interest of the world in other countries, it will hurt america economic interest!
<Fascist> Wat, the wat
<Neoliberal> USA needs raw materials, and own industries and have allied and poo poo. We can't abandon our interest. We have fight with blood and mountains of money to defend it!
<Fascist> waat? ... american... first?
<China> America first!
<Russia> America first!!
<Europe> loving morons
<Fascist> America first!
<Neoliberal> Nooooooooo oooooooooo......
<Fascist> AMERICA FIRST!!