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JBP posted:That thing is one stupid looking contraption. The pic they posted, once again, makes it look dumb, but if you watch the video there are other angles that make it look better. I love how they gave it a pintle mounted punisher cannon, a hull mounted lascannon, a turret Las cannon, and then threw on a coaxial stubber for good measure. The tank looks like it was designed off of early US WWII tanks (put 50s and 30s everywhere) mixed with a hover Bradley. I like it.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Link to the video? https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/386449961749988/
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Holy poo poo it totally looks like the Bradley IFV.
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Artum posted:Holy poo poo it totally looks like the Bradley IFV. You beat me to it. Not just the look, but the horrible "Why not just add on of these" design aesthetic
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Jun 2, 2017 13:49
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This looks badass. I want 3 of them.
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Warhammer Community says it might be archeotech, which is cool, and makes some sense for the bigmarines, who were made when hovertanks were still around
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bandaid.friend posted:Warhammer Community says it might be archeotech, which is cool, and makes some sense for the bigmarines, who were made when hovertanks were still around They also un-subtly say that its not that its Cawl breaking the rules and inventing new poo poo as with all of the primaris gear.
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I don't know if it's good or bad. It's certainly something different!
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Artum posted:They also un-subtly say that its not that its Cawl breaking the rules and inventing new poo poo as with all of the primaris gear. i had my fingers in my ears and didn't hear that, or i'd be unreasonably upset at fake toy space soldiers
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It could do without all the random missile pods and probably the pintle mounted gun because as is it mostly looks like a mess.
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bandaid.friend posted:i had my fingers in my ears and didn't hear that, or i'd be unreasonably upset at fake toy space soldiers Its what the admech update this year is meant to revolve around; massive tech heresy and people being displeased.
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Artum posted:Its what the admech update this year is meant to revolve around; massive tech heresy and people being displeased. AdMech update this year? I haven't heard anything about that. Like a range and codex update?
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That hover tank sure is some ugly bullshit
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Zuul the Cat posted:AdMech update this year? I haven't heard anything about that. Like a range and codex update? All I'd heard was the update schedule this year for 40k is marines (all the primaris stuff) chaos (all the deathguard stuff) and admech with that being the setup for it.
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Corrode posted:That hover tank sure is some ugly bullshit Warhammer 40k: some ugly bullshit
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Land must be rolling in his grave at this rear end in a top hat haphazardly mashing together two of his greatest discoveries.
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Artum posted:It could do without all the random missile pods and probably the pintle mounted gun because as is it mostly looks like a mess. Agreed. I like the basic design - I don't love it, like I did with the Bigmar Dread, but I don't hate it either. It just has too much random poo poo stuck to it, with the toolboxes and the missile racks and stuff. One of the things I really liked about the primaris mans is that they don't have all the weird dangly bits and decoration that marines have picked up over the years. That return to clean silhouettes and (relatively) minimalist lines is what makes them work, for me. This thing looks appropriately brutal, but it has way too much going on visually for me to really get behind it. Still, if this is the Rhino-chassis-equivalent for bigmars, I'm good with it, it's a good base for the inevitable "sponsons and a huge gun" variant we'll get. The fact that it hovers will break it up from the existing marine stuff.
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That tank looks like someone mashed together a Land Raider and a few Land Speeders and called it a day. The top 2/3rds of the thing is alright, but all those busy skid plates are awful. Yuck.
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I finally got to see the bigmars in person, they're pretty. The store is painting them up in gold and blue as Celestial Lions, which I think is a veiled nod to AOS, but it's a good look.
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berzerkmonkey posted:That tank looks like someone mashed together a Land Raider and a few Land Speeders and called it a day. The top 2/3rds of the thing is alright, but all those busy skid plates are awful. Yuck. They're one of the few sensible things about it because thats literally what the land speeder grav plates look like.
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I think the skids would look better painted black. But then they would also look better as a proper armoured skirt.
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Artum posted:They're one of the few sensible things about it because thats literally what the land speeder grav plates look like. I know, but it just doesn't look good.
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I'm worried I already know the answer to this, but would a footslogging army of Primaris marines be any good?
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The Land Speeder and Land Raider being named such because their STC templates were (re)discovered by a dude named "Land" is quite possibly the dumbest, most ridiculous piece of fluff in the 40K universe. It would be like learning that the main Space Marine weapon STC was discovered by a dude named "Bolt."
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Ilor posted:The Land Speeder and Land Raider being named such because their STC templates were (re)discovered by a dude named "Land" is quite possibly the dumbest, most ridiculous piece of fluff in the 40K universe. It would be like learning that the main Space Marine weapon STC was discovered by a dude named "Bolt." It was, though
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Ilor posted:The Land Speeder and Land Raider being named such because their STC templates were (re)discovered by a dude named "Land" is quite possibly the dumbest, most ridiculous piece of fluff in the 40K universe. It would be like learning that the main Space Marine weapon STC was discovered by a dude named "Bolt." This, but the opposite.
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I finally got around to finishing Stranger Things, and I must say I really enjoyed the story of an unsanctioned psyker accidentally opening a warp gate to Nurgle's Garden.
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Arkhan Land is a sweet name.
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I don't know what to think of this skimmer thing. It needs, like, two less guns on it
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bandaid.friend posted:Sebastian Thor invented the bastion Not empty quoting
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So are we just dropping the "grav technology isn't something the Imperium uses for tanks" thing officially, now
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Ilor posted:The Land Speeder and Land Raider being named such because their STC templates were (re)discovered by a dude named "Land" is quite possibly the dumbest, most ridiculous piece of fluff in the 40K universe. It would be like learning that the main Space Marine weapon STC was discovered by a dude named "Bolt." 
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Just as a heads up, the Warhammer TV twitch channel is playing a game of 8th. Death Guard do have less power than the Primarus in the box set.
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The Imperium being rear end backwards with technology was was of the more entertaining things I found. Losing that an any humanity marines will having now being a bunch of test tube warriors really dashes any interest I personally have for the Imperium. For example one of those little things I liked was Salamanders got to check in an be with their old families post going marine. Now if they all go bigly who would they visit some dude in a mechanicus suit? No humanity.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I never said better I just don't think it would appreciably slow anything down. I didn't think moron would be such a touchy word for you but I am genuinely sorry if it upset you. Cool, thanks. I wish it didn't take two pages of back and forth to get to the point where discussion happens instead of insults. It's ok to say negative things about 40k. RagnarokAngel posted:I mean look I do see your point. There's a few examples I think better illustrate that, like how flamer weapons say "this weapon automatically hits" or how eldar shuriken weapons say "on a 6+ this weapon wounds with ap -3 instead of 0" verbatim every single time instead of just using a "bladestorm" keyword. A decision was made either to use the descriptions instead of having to memorize keywords which is nice but at a glance might be cumbersome. It's kind of a lose lose situation. They seem to want it both ways, half assed USRs that are only universal to that unit (?!) and longform repetitions all over the place like your bladestorm example. It seems such a scattered and haphazard way of writing rules that does nothing to help people learn the game. I'm glad we finally got here.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:I'm worried I already know the answer to this, but would a footslogging army of Primaris marines be any good? Nobody knows. It looks like infantry have a major boost this edition given how expensive vehicles are, and Primaris Marines have access to a lot of cool things.
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