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Peel posted:the only nuclear threat scenario the uk might face in corbyn's lifetime even in clancytown would be some kind of general nato-russia escalation spiral in which case britain's own threat posture is irrelevant unless we actually escalate ourselves, which only may might be stupid enough to do britain was stupid enough to vote to exit the eu in a couple of years it might be stupid enough to exit nato so lol
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When I think potential Nuclear Holocaust I definitely think of the UK having any semblance of a major role in it
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i mean a lot of us thought france was super close to electing a nazi as well. a nuclear deterrent is always worth having in the face of an uncertain future
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how would it go down if he just said no he wouldn't press the button becuase in a retaliatory strike london would have been the initial target so he'd be dead but he trusts the generals to do what is needed
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Jun 2, 2017 22:15
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i'd be more willing to entertain pro-trident arguments if the rest of the british military wasn't in such a messed up state. priorities.
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Jun 2, 2017 22:15
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it's not that a nuclear deterrent is or isn't useless so much as that the whole issue is a near-irrelevancy only important in the fever dreams of nationalist death cultists
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Jun 2, 2017 22:17
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Conservatives gettin dragged on Twitter https://twitter.com/irelandpenguin/status/870742520455680001%08
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Jun 2, 2017 22:17
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The cold war hosed people up fierce and i think the world would be better had they actually died
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Peel posted:it's not that a nuclear deterrent is or isn't useless so much as that the whole issue is a near-irrelevancy only important in the fever dreams of nationalist death cultists nobody thought putin was brazen enough to invade and annex crimea, or that assad was crazy enough to start a civil war against his own people sure these are all happenings outside of western europe but give it twenty years with the crazy election surprises continuing and god knows what might happen
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Peel posted:it's not that a nuclear deterrent is or isn't useless so much as that the whole issue is a near-irrelevancy only important in the fever dreams of nationalist death cultists
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Jun 2, 2017 22:20
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Corbyn won't bring a nuclear holocaust on me and my loved ones, low energy. 
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:Corbyn won't bring a nuclear holocaust on me and my loved ones, low energy. nah he's just going to get conquered by russia after he exits nato because it's evil and scraps the nukes lol
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Jun 2, 2017 22:21
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anyway the nukes aren't going anywhere because even the best case scenario is a hung parliament so a vote for corbyn is good
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:nobody thought putin was brazen enough to invade and annex crimea, or that assad was crazy enough to start a civil war against his own people
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:nah he's just going to get conquered by russia after he exits nato because it's evil and scraps the nukes lol I'm the russian invasion force that goes through or around the entire continent of Europe just to conquer a lovely island with crappy weather.
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Jun 2, 2017 22:27
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:I'm the russian invasion force that goes through the entire continent of Europe just to conquer a lovely island with crappy weather. im the assumption that whoever happens to be the russian tsar at the time is not a slightly unhinged nationalist with revanchist ambitions
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Jun 2, 2017 22:28
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We would easily defeat any invaders by putting salt + vinegar on all their food, starving them instantly with our repulsive-on-the-continent culinary stylings.
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:nah he's just going to get conquered by russia after he exits nato because it's evil and scraps the nukes lol
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Jun 2, 2017 22:37
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i had marmite on toast for the first time and holy poo poo this was my face while eating it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klMSCTcd0XI 
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Jun 2, 2017 22:37
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Without nukes, how will Britain pretend it has any relevance?
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Jun 2, 2017 22:38
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Some ukrainian dudes in the 90s posted:Look at this frightened little man. Look how scared he is lol he thinks Russia is gonna conquer the Ukraine
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Jun 2, 2017 22:39
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hey guys it's me i am the anti imperialist leftie who wants to give up the nukes so as to make britain even more dependent on the goodwill of its lord protector the united states of america
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:hey guys it's me i am the anti imperialist leftie who wants to give up the nukes so as to make britain even more dependent on the goodwill of its lord protector the united states of america *britgoons tear my disguise away, revealing my real face... dwight d. eisenhower* LET'S GET BIZ-AE
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:hey guys it's me i am the anti imperialist leftie who wants to give up the nukes so as to make britain even more dependent on the goodwill of its lord protector the united states of america the nukes should be replaced by tanks that launch nukes why didn't stalin think of this??
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Jun 2, 2017 22:45
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*extremely roger hodgson voice* WHAT HAPPENED TO THE EMPIRE? CORBYN GIVE ME NUKES
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current mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yoy-mA4SUnA
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big problem is that trident costs a fuckton of money for the nukes and the (required) vanguard submarines that could be better spent on the army, and for the royal navy: destroyers, frigates, amphibious transports + ocean patrol ships and maritime surveillance planes. mmm yummy maritime surveillance planes 
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Jun 2, 2017 23:02
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hi geremy coarben is good
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Jun 2, 2017 23:07
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Hodgepodge posted:the nukes should be replaced by tanks that launch nukes Perhaps a revolutionary mobile nuclear missile system, a bipedal tank. The missing link between infantry and artillery.
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Jose posted:People really want to hear him say he will kill millions lol To be fair if you're the leader of a nuclear power and you aren't willing to commit to massive nuclear retaliation, you undermine the nuclear deterrent and are a threat to world peace.
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 Also while looking for this pic I found a thing:  lmao
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CottonWolf posted:Who wants that many innocents to die? Given their manifesto, I'm gonna say the Tories.
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hakimashou posted:To be fair if you're the leader of a nuclear power and you aren't willing to commit to massive nuclear retaliation, you undermine the nuclear deterrent and are a threat to world peace. 
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