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Saw a rumour earlier this week that biglys' were going to get their own transports. Glad I held off on scratch building rhinos when I can scratchbuild these rad things. But holy hell is building all these going to take forever  Fearless posted:I know one who was a brilliant power gamer. He was also a filthy, unshaven, unrepentant Atlantic Canadian bricklayer and hick and about as far from the 4chan stereotype as you could possibly get. He sold his tau army because winning was too easy and picked up 'nids because he wanted a challenge. I only got tau back in 3rd edition because RAILGUNS. But after a couple years I sold the army because it was getting boring. Setup firing lines and overlapping fire with broadsides/firewarrios, wait for them to advance, jump suits around. It was usually easy wins except deep strikers. Thought you were honestly talking about me for a second, didn't think I was that scruffy in my early 20s, I mean I did shave every couple days atleast.
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General Olloth posted:It does look streamlined, firing arcs and cover being greatly simplified does a lot. Getting rid of twin link reroll misses does look like it actually adds more dice but reduces rerolls in the game. GW does indeed not know their own rules. When I tried correcting them, Dan sassed me for knowing the leaked rules. Please tell me the above target priority I mentioned was them not knowing their own rules. Cause if not, that is dumb.
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Kilazar posted:Please tell me the above target priority I mentioned was them not knowing their own rules. Cause if not, that is dumb. They said actually that was definitely the rules and they talked to an authority. They themselves are not necessarily an authority though. There was some calls they made where they were like "We'll have to ask the rules guys later but this is our interpretation." Most of the mistakes were what the players were doing, which we could only sort of talk to through the community people. They weren't actually judging the game, just doing commentary. A couple things got through to the players, one of which I think was actually wrong.
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General Olloth posted:They said actually that was definitely the rules and they talked to an authority. They themselves are not necessarily an authority though. There was some calls they made where they were like "We'll have to ask the rules guys later but this is our interpretation." That is a really silly way for target priority to work. If you can't shoot closest unit cause it is locked cc, then that unit is removed from priority. And you should be free to fire at next logical legal target. Edit Target priority should have legality clauses. And a unit locked in cc should be an illegal item and removed from the equation. Kilazar fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Kilazar posted:That is a really silly way for target priority to work. If you can't shoot closest unit cause it is locked cc, then that unit is removed from priority. And you should be free to fire at next logical legal target. Well rules as written it just literally says "A Character can only be chosen as a target in the Shooting phase if they are the closest visible enemy unit to the model that is shooting." You can argue that it's dumb but it's pretty clear what the rules say unfortunately. Supposedly this is very much on purpose.
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Saw a Bigmarine today. Definitely larger than the regular guy. I could see it being fun to paint an army of them, especially with the reduced squad sizes.
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General Olloth posted:Yep. It says a move value is a maximum normally, and then SOME have two and one is a minimum and one is a maximum. Ahh, gotcha. I don't know why it wasn't fully clicking for me, I'm usually pretty good with this stuff. General Olloth posted:You should have used the gently caress up tiny wolfs. I knew I was forgetting something  
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Ilor posted:Arkhan Land - inventor of the speeder and raider that now bear his surname - is phenomenally stupid. It's stupid and it owns and what owns more is how in Master of Mankind, Land is all "oh my god why are people calling it the Land Raider, that's loving stupid, it's the Raider Pattern Battle Tank"
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They really should have continued the tradition and called the Storm Raven the Land Raven.
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This Arkhan Land thing is such an odd thing to be upset about lmao
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Arkhan Land is awesome and he's seen some poo poo. poo poo you wouldn't believe, man.
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Ayn Marx posted:This Arkhan Land thing is such an odd thing to be upset about lmao I'm convinced that this thread runs on salt.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:They really should have continued the tradition and called the Storm Raven the Land Raven. 
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I'm convinced that this thread runs on salt. What SA thread doesn't these days
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Shoot me, I just finished speed painting 20 Poxwalkers for our showcase tomorrow. So many loving boils and maggots, setting my obsessive tendencies on fire.
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mango sentinel posted:Santa? Nah Santa is Papa Grimnar  Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I'm convinced that this thread runs on salt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor
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MasterSlowPoke posted:They really should have continued the tradition and called the Storm Raven Land's Raven. 
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So just to be clear, we are all in agreement and fully know that Bigly Marines will slowly get more and more stuff, and over the course of a few years eventually be the new regular Space Marine- and that we just don't talk about it aloud?
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I'm not sure what there is to say about that? You're 100% correct and normal marines will slowly die, whatever New Games Workshop says, what else can we add?
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OhDearGodNo posted:So just to be clear, we are all in agreement and fully know that Bigly Marines will slowly get more and more stuff, and over the course of a few years eventually be the new regular Space Marine- and that we just don't talk about it aloud? if it makes you feel better everyone in the thread, in a show of oustanding solidarity, has yet to purchase a single bigmarine model
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Is there some hint at what they expect the point levels for average-sized games will be? Haven't touched 40k in a long time.
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OhDearGodNo posted:So just to be clear, we are all in agreement and fully know that Bigly Marines will slowly get more and more stuff, and over the course of a few years eventually be the new regular Space Marine- and that we just don't talk about it aloud? I''m fine with that.
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fnordcircle posted:Is there some hint at what they expect the point levels for average-sized games will be? Haven't touched 40k in a long time. I think I heard them say on the stream today that tournaments will probably be around 2000.
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So are we clear yet on if having a chainsword lets you take an additional chainsword attack even if you didn't use any of your attacks on it Because I'm needing to drop a few points and instead of my captain's master crafted boltgun I can give him a chainsword
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TheChirurgeon posted:if it makes you feel better everyone in the thread, in a show of oustanding solidarity, has yet to purchase a single bigmarine model Sorry, my FLGS started doing preorders last weekend for $120 and I partook of the devil's offer. I realize I am a class traitor
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OhDearGodNo posted:So just to be clear, we are all in agreement and fully know that Bigly Marines will slowly get more and more stuff, and over the course of a few years eventually be the new regular Space Marine- and that we just don't talk about it aloud? Baby Marines will still be around in 30k. My hamstradamus prediction is that 40k is going to be a distinctly new game. Bigger models, different rules, crazy fluff. 30k will be the more familiar baby marines and templates.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I''m fine with that. As long as they eventually include big Mk. 7's. The new scale and proportions are great, the Mk. 10 design not so much.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I''m fine with that. I don't play space marines so uhh whatever go hog wild. Just milk more money from those guys and use that money to actually give me xenos updates.
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The way I see it, a cool model I want to one day paint doesn't stop my other cool models being cool.
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OhDearGodNo posted:So just to be clear, we are all in agreement and fully know that Bigly Marines will slowly get more and more stuff, and over the course of a few years eventually be the new regular Space Marine- and that we just don't talk about it aloud? GW are making plenty of big bucks selling HH nostalgia-marines already. By the time that starts to run dry and bigmarines are the new normal, everything will roll back around to the classic Mk7 armour and we'll see new stuff again. Sure it may take a few years and require a mortgage from Forgeworld, but they'll be back. General Olloth posted:
Also this. That sweet sweet heresy money paid for just the right intern to write the first good Tyranid rules in over a decade. Keep buying spacemans everyone!
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BULBASAUR posted:My hamstradamus prediction is that 40k is going to be a distinctly new game. Is it reasonable to assume something similar to what they did with AoS will happen will happen with 40k? So all the factions get new lines, etc but the old stuff has rules? The whole Primaris thing just feels like Sigmarines of the future.
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fnordcircle posted:Is it reasonable to assume something similar to what they did with AoS will happen will happen with 40k? So all the factions get new lines, etc but the old stuff has rules? I would expect so, but that could be a 5 year plan. Some new factions mixed in as things go along.
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OhDearGodNo posted:So just to be clear, we are all in agreement and fully know that Bigly Marines will slowly get more and more stuff, and over the course of a few years eventually be the new regular Space Marine- and that we just don't talk about it aloud? I already talked about it aloud.
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I'm just hoping the "npc" factions don't have to wait too long for their respect8ve codexes.
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They will never release another old style marine model again for 40k. Forgeworld will do whatever.
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Floppychop posted:I'm just hoping the "npc" factions don't have to wait too long for their respect8ve codexes. Jokes on marines, Orks and Tyranids run the joint now.
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