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Domus posted:Oh, good to know. Just...why did I pay $100 if they're going to be sub-par copies? Really, Amazon? What do you mean $100? You said it yourself. Free with Prime.
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Like if you paid for Prime solely for the B:TAS episodes that's kind of on you dogg. They don't even have the classic theme song.
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purple death ray posted:Like if you paid for Prime solely for the B:TAS episodes that's kind of on you dogg. They don't even have the classic theme song. Ha ha holy poo poo
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purple death ray posted:Like if you paid for Prime solely for the B:TAS episodes that's kind of on you dogg. They don't even have the classic theme song. They do for season 2.
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May 29, 2017 17:10
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Yeah just season 1 has the wrong intro for some reason
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May 29, 2017 21:17
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I do remember the man-bat episode always looked rough, even outside prime.
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It was also the only time in the original episodes they got away with showing batman bleeding.
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It was the very first episode and the reason that season finale JLU "Epilogue" episode ended the way it did with the homage to the first few seconds of the Manbat episode, they didn't know if they were getting another season which they did
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t4EuOMiKSQ Clip of the new Spider-man cartoon. The CG assets look garbage, but I really dig the rest. The super simplistic backgrounds look rather good (love that exterior shadows are blue) and help the characters pop, which is extra good since they're emoting fairly well. I can see this being good.
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the backgrounds and CGI look extremely unfinished, but I like the fighting and choreography is pretty good, and Spidey's new VA is much easier to listen to than Drake Bell.
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Yeah, I really like that clip.
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Reminds me of the Green Lantern show. Super weird art style, but the show itself was pretty interesting.
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Jun 3, 2017 01:07
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I remember when cartoons were pretty.
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You figure technology would have made doing beautiful animation easier and cheaper, but it seems to have had pretty much the opposite effect of encouraging even more corner cutting. Like you'd figure that the best episode of a 20 year old cartoon would be significantly cheaper and easier to produce today and that the bar for animation would be higher in general. But then stuff like Avenger's Assemble happens.
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ToastyPotato posted:You figure technology would have made doing beautiful animation easier and cheaper, but it seems to have had pretty much the opposite effect of encouraging even more corner cutting. Like you'd figure that the best episode of a 20 year old cartoon would be significantly cheaper and easier to produce today and that the bar for animation would be higher in general. But then stuff like Avenger's Assemble happens. I'm pretty sure blame can, as is often the case, be laid squarely at the feet of Adobe Flash. Doomsday Clock will reveal that it's also responsible for Flashpoint.
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ToastyPotato posted:You figure technology would have made doing beautiful animation easier and cheaper, but it seems to have had pretty much the opposite effect of encouraging even more corner cutting. Like you'd figure that the best episode of a 20 year old cartoon would be significantly cheaper and easier to produce today and that the bar for animation would be higher in general. But then stuff like Avenger's Assemble happens. It's not really that simple. Hand-drawn animation doesn't suddenly become cheaper with technology. Even while it introduces new options those options take time and energy to learn. Working with digital coloring over traditional for example actually requires a lot of work. In addition changing tastes and styles have an impact there too. Hand-drawn is actually more expensive because there are fewer studios doing it and fewer people trained in doing it well. In addition old cartoons often had a lot of cheapness and shortcuts themselves, just in different ways, so it can depend on what method of cheapness looks best to you.
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Plus a variety of other factors, like what the market will support, what the cost to effort ratio is to get kids to pay attention to a show, and what the studio actually wants out of the show. We all remember the years of things like Gargoyles and BTAS being great, but not only was that a very different time, they were also beacons in a sea of less memorable cheap poo poo.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t4EuOMiKSQ This animation is the worst I've seen in a very, VERY long time. Wow...
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Kurui Reiten posted:Plus a variety of other factors, like what the market will support, what the cost to effort ratio is to get kids to pay attention to a show, and what the studio actually wants out of the show. We all remember the years of things like Gargoyles and BTAS being great, but not only was that a very different time, they were also beacons in a sea of less memorable cheap poo poo. It's also easy for nostalgia to blind you to just how bad some poo poo looked. Looking at you, 90s Spider-Man.
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Based purely off the way Spider-Man moved his legs around while running and spinning around, his secret identity must be Dean Venture.
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I knew I'd seen that gangly knees and elbows run somewhere recently! Dean as Peter and Hank/Dermott as Venom is actually pretty perfect.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t4EuOMiKSQ Man, I didn't enjoy that at all. It looks rough. The dialogue is extra corny (yes I realize it's Spider-Man) and the metro card bit just didn't land for me.
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Well it'd be hard to be worse than Ultimate Spider-Man, so whatever, I'm down with this.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t4EuOMiKSQ I'm surprised people are bagging on the animation here, it's actually really fluid for what it is. Like, these are detailed semi-realistic characters, and normally when you do that on a cartoon budget you get super stiff animation because more detailed objects are hard to render moving around in interesting ways. See for ex. all the Marvel cartoons in the past eight years or so. You can see where the corners are being cut but there's also a lot of intricate animation in this clip. Looks heavily influenced by anime, but like, modern action/slice of life anime and things in that visual style rather than hyperstylised shounen stuff. I'm impressed. I love Spider-Man having a running commentary, too. I feel like that's actually key to the essence of the character, the "narration box" style panic about how he's going to get out of this one, and bringing it back captures a large part of what makes him a charming underdog hero.
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I liked the metro card bit.
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I like the commentary from Spidey, I like the homemade suit, I like the fluid movement, and I even liked the metro card joke. He WOULD be nerdy enough (at least as a teen anyway) to obey the laws when he's in a super dire situation like that. Then him getting tackled through anyway was amusing. But those backgrounds. Those are so bad that, once I noticed them, it ruined pretty much everything else for me. I seriously hope that's not a final clip or something. They could've at least slapped some outlines on things...and a teeny bit more detail. I get they wanted to focus on the action and the forefront but still... Also what exactly did Spider-Man slam into there? Air? The ground? A tree? I have no idea and it seems like the animators didn't either. I did notice the homemade suit has no spider emblem yet. I think that's a nice touch. If you're going to make a homemade suit out of clothes AND you're really eager to run around in it, you're not gonna try to make an emblem.. Especially if you might suck at sewing.
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Pretty sure the homemade suit is from the new movie. You can see it in one of the later trailers.
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ThermoPhysical posted:Also what exactly did Spider-Man slam into there? Air? The ground? A tree? I have no idea and it seems like the animators didn't either. It's the ground. If you slow it down you can see a downward slam from Scorpion. Perspective in that shot is all kinds of wonky.
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I enjoyed Beware the Batman a fair amount, even with the somewhat ugly style and obvious CG limits (compared to Green Lantern, which could hide it better). It's pretty tightly plotted and the characters involved are interesting precisely because they're not so overexposed. I'm a big fan of Grey Griffin so her voicing Magpie was very welcome, and Metamorpho, Lady Shiva and Katana were all great. Batman himself was a bit bland, and I wasn't huge on this Alfred, but it was definitely it's own take and I would have been interested in Season 2 with The Outsiders being involved. Before it I also watched The Batman which was solid, but disappointingly repetitious with the same male villains. I really enjoyed Poison Ivy and Catwoman, and they hardly appear compared to so many Joker (strong performances from KMR though, and I don't hate The Batman designs as a change of pace) and Penguin episodes. Batgirl also gets pushed to the side once Robin shows up, but there were some fun episodes. I particularly liked the future episode where the archaeologists were exploring the Batcave, so it was just a shame that only male Justice Leaguers showed up in the final season. Guess that's a product of selling toys to boys. I do appreciate that all the Batman cartoons did their own thing and did it well.
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I really dug Return of the Caped Crusader, and the VA for Riddler did a solid Gorshin impression.
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Now that Wonder Woman has gotten her own movie and it's turned out to be a huge success, do you think DC might actually give her more animated stuff of her own now?
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They don't even give Batman that anymore.
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Dexie posted:Now that Wonder Woman has gotten her own movie and it's turned out to be a huge success, do you think DC might actually give her more animated stuff of her own now? Given the quality of DC's animated releases in recent years, I rather hope not.
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Her animated film was already pretty rad and was made before the rot set in anyway. We have that Batman and Harley Quinn one to "look forward" to now. Also, whatever happened to the Gods and Monsters followup? Did it just get quietly cancelled or what?
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TFRazorsaw posted:They don't even give Batman that anymore. He got like 3 or 4 straight DTV films. I can definitely see WW getting at least 1 animated project if this movie makes bank.
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ToastyPotato posted:He got like 3 or 4 straight DTV films. I can definitely see WW getting at least 1 animated project if this movie makes bank. She's already got one of the best films in DC animated history. Might be best to quit while we're ahead on this one.
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ToastyPotato posted:He got like 3 or 4 straight DTV films. I can definitely see WW getting at least 1 animated project if this movie makes bank. I meant like animated series stuff.
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TFRazorsaw posted:I meant like animated series stuff. Doesn't Batman have some kind of weird robot animal thing? DC hasn't really been doing much animated TV stuff outside of Teen Titans Go and that weird high school superhero girl show.
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I watched four episodes of Justice League Action and thought it was ok.
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ToastyPotato posted:Doesn't Batman have some kind of weird robot animal thing? DC hasn't really been doing much animated TV stuff outside of Teen Titans Go and that weird high school superhero girl show. That's more DTV stuff, and it's not animal robot thing so much as this lighter focused, absurdly toyetic thing.
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