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FaintlyQuaint posted:Because PLD has no build up time, has massively more powerful average combo potency, and Holy Spirit is way more powerful than Bloodspiller or Fell Cleave because the only thing it cost is mana that you regen automatically with your massively more powerful combos anyway. Also, you can shield block literally everything now and shelltron is on a 5s cooldown. PLD is probably going to be the go-to main tonk, yeah.
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Gruckles posted:All the 2.X horses besides Kirin are still grounded. Flying Goobue is also maybe on the table still. Pretty much everything else that made sense to fly has had flying added. The Goobbue mounts should fly by flapping their noodly arms really fast.
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Jun 4, 2017 02:12
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No, the arms should just extend all the way to the ground and walk like that.
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Jun 4, 2017 02:15
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They should fly by spinning their noodle arms around like helicopter blades blowing downwards.
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Jun 4, 2017 02:17
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IcePhoenix posted:Well poo poo, I was hoping to get one sent to me but I have no idea if anyone I was actually friends with still plays What was your in game name?
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Jun 4, 2017 02:24
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I don't deserve to be punished just because I happen to be the custodian of this lovely hellhole thread
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Jun 4, 2017 02:32
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Jun 4, 2017 02:55
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FaintlyQuaint posted:This post is really amazingly funny in light of PLD being extremely better than both WAR and DRK as of NA/JP info release. Yep. WAR and DRK theoretical rotations have them pretty close on potency. If the DRK trick attack thing is real, DRK/PAL will be meta as long as you have a dps that applies slashing.
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Jun 4, 2017 03:00
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The pendulum school of game design.
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Jun 4, 2017 03:04
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This is a good game and I like it.
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Jun 4, 2017 03:08
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I don't even know what this is about but I guess my avatar was getting kind of old and raggedy anyway
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Truga posted:Also, you can shield block literally everything now and shelltron is on a 5s cooldown. My PLD's at like 46 and I kind of want to level it up before SB but on the other hand I absolutely don't want to play a job with no damaging aoes.
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Jun 4, 2017 03:19
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Get it to 50 for Stormblood and then use the newly-added 50-59 armory bonus.
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Jun 4, 2017 03:20
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vOv posted:My PLD's at like 46 and I kind of want to level it up before SB but on the other hand I absolutely don't want to play a job with no damaging aoes. iirc 46 is exactly the level when paladins get the physical AoE in 4.0 so you're at the perfect time to wait
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Holyshoot posted:can i get an aV pleaseeeeeeeeeee no also chiming in to say most of the SB areas look really dull. I'm hoping they're hiding the cool stuff because what they've shown thus far isn't very impressive. panda clue fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Jun 4, 2017 04:01
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i do not think paladin is going to do more damage than warrior, and if it does square enix is Very Dumb. but I do not think it will happen.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:i do not think paladin is going to do more damage than warrior, and if it does square enix is Very Dumb. but I do not think it will happen. PLD without ever hitting FoF or Requiescat is almost 10% ahead of WAR and DRK. 
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Jun 4, 2017 04:08
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PLD being even competitive and also being able to block any tank buster with shelltron will make them the meta MT. They're just ridiculous for it.
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Jun 4, 2017 04:13
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my hats off to the brave soldier keeping the dream of fracture alive
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:PLD being even competitive and also being able to block any tank buster with shelltron will make them the meta MT. They're just ridiculous for it. Shelltron still only guarantees a physical block, but magic damage in general can be blocked.
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panda clue posted:no I liked the one dungeon they've shown so far.
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FaintlyQuaint posted:PLD without ever hitting FoF or Requiescat is almost 10% ahead of WAR and DRK. over what period of time? i don't know how much the paladin damage numbers for their combos got tweaked but requesciat gives you a six-holy spirit window, each of which is doing less damage than a fell cleave buffed by nothing other than berserk.
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Farg posted:my hats off to the brave soldier keeping the dream of fracture alive Fracture will never die. FaintlyQuaint posted:PLD without ever hitting FoF or Requiescat is almost 10% ahead of WAR and DRK. I missed that ForF was previewed as a 30 seconds duration with a 60 CD  I was somewhat distracted thinking up Offtank PLD shenanigans. With Royal Authority comboing off of Riot Blade you've got steady Mana regen to do Holy Spirit smackdowns like OT War's do Fell Cleave bursts now
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I for one am looking forward to my WHM damage going to nothing if only because it means 99% of pubbie tanks will no longer have reasons to scream at me about REEEE HOW DARE YOU NOT BE IN CLERIC STANCE followed by REEEEE HOW DARE YOU BE IN CLERIC STANCE I AM BEING EVER SO SLIGHTLY DAMAGED BY AN ADD.
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I suspect the aim is for PLD to have slightly better or equal sustained damage but for WAR to have better burst damage. They probably want more towards equal though, if the numbers shake out the way people are saying, PLD will probably eat some nerfs to bring them in line, or WAR potencies will be bumped up a bit. Dunno what their aim is for DRK though. Middle ground in burst between PLD and WAR with some kind of utility to make up the difference?
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I actually do want to start playing again but I know I'm just gonna burn out just in time for SB release if I do. I wonder if RDM is going to come with any starting gear when it's unlocked. I've long since thrown away the vast majority of my leveling gear, and all of my INT gear for sure.
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All the heavensward jobs start with level 30 gear, so I don't see why the Stormblood jobs wouldn't give you a starter set.
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Gizmo Chicken posted:All the heavensward jobs start with level 30 gear, so I don't see why the Stormblood jobs wouldn't give you a starter set. You got a weapon, chest and pants. That was it. Everything else you had to snag for yourself. So we'll at least get that much!
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Kazinsal posted:I for one am looking forward to my WHM damage going to nothing if only because it means 99% of pubbie tanks will no longer have reasons to scream at me about REEEE HOW DARE YOU NOT BE IN CLERIC STANCE followed by REEEEE HOW DARE YOU BE IN CLERIC STANCE I AM BEING EVER SO SLIGHTLY DAMAGED BY AN ADD. WHM damage is going up, especially in comparison to the other healers.
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The firecrest does exist. Only after a fourth clear involving more chimera trains than I'd like to deal with. The wall is your only friend in PotD 151+.
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EponymousMrYar posted:You got a weapon, chest and pants. That was it. Everything else you had to snag for yourself. Oh. I thought you got a full set for some reason. My bad.
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EponymousMrYar posted:Fracture will never die. And the forums are better because of fracture. On another note, I too was looking forward to playing SAM - but with the MCH changes, I think I might continue to live my Balthier / Mustadio fantasy. I picked this up when Heavensward was on sale last year, dropped it and then picked it up again these last few months. I use to play a shitton of WoW, but FFXIV is so, so much better. I just hit 57 and still have a little bit to go to finish out the 3.0 story, but with any luck I should hit 60 by the middle of next week when I have a couple days off work. I just hit the point where a certain character bites the dust, the Heavens Ward's plan is semi-revealed, and almighty jesus just when I think this story can't hit me in the feels it does. As opposed to WoW, where I could give a gently caress if Thrall does whatever the gently caress he does.
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What are the MCH changes?
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This 4.0 SCH rotation sure is engaging and great. I can't wait. http://ffxivrotations.com/qhm (Replace some broils with Ruin + Energy Drain presumably).
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Ciaphas posted:What are the MCH changes? Also a bunch of other stuff, but that's the most dramatic one I guess. Wildfire's down to only a ten second debuff, there's a "heat" mechanic that builds up as you use skills with gauss barrel on and affects various things, ammo maxes out at three now, the various stuns and snares and such are now role abilities rather than job skills... you'll probably wanna find a website with a better list, or just mess around a bit once it's live.
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Ciaphas posted:What are the MCH changes? Cast times are gone, Ammo is down to 3 and there's a new Heat mechanic tied to Gauss Barrel where you build heat up and keep it in the 50-100 range, since that gives you Heated Split, Slug and Clean shots which are higher potency than normal. Once you hit 100 heat you get a 20% damage buff for like, 20 seconds and then you lose Gauss Barrel and it goes on a 10 sec cooldown. Also Wildfire is only a 10 second duration but your shots are getting out faster so reh. Turrets still have their hypercharge buffs although now you can overload them for a high potency attack (Rook's like, 400 IIRC) but that wrecks the turret for a duration. Also also more sick kick flipping shooting gun animations.
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Asimo posted:No more cast times. I think a nice QOL change is also simply that you won't have Raging Strikes, Hawk's Eye, and Blood for Blood to time with everything out.
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Ciaphas posted:What are the MCH changes? The big one is that Gauss Barrel is no longer going to cause cast timers, and also there's a new Heat mechanic, but I think that only kicks in for post-60 stuff. If you want more details, then here's a video that could and should have just been some drat screenshots. The role changes are in this other video, which I have linked right to the relevant time stamp for ranged DPS. The job gauge and the attendant Heat mechanic are at this last video, which can be summarized as "you only get three bullets instead of five now," and "Gauss Barrel gives you a Heat Gauge, when your gun gets too hot it deals extra damage, at 64 then Split, Slug, and Clean Shot all power up when your gun is hot."
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:over what period of time? i don't know how much the paladin damage numbers for their combos got tweaked but requesciat gives you a six-holy spirit window, each of which is doing less damage than a fell cleave buffed by nothing other than berserk. Over a period of time equal to forever. Their combos are weak.
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nuru posted:I think a nice QOL change is also simply that you won't have Raging Strikes, Hawk's Eye, and Blood for Blood to time with everything out. I'm at the point where I leveled Ninja then did a sudden switch to MCH when I hit Heavensward content, but haven't leveled many other classes due to just wanting to hit max level ASAP and burn through the story. Already, though - I have 3 bars full of skills and was dredding the task of adding more. I'm glad I won't have to worry too much about that since Stormblood is just around the corner. As well, hitting the point where I unlocked Gauss barrel made the MCH feel a little clunky to me until I got use to it, but I normally stay away from caster classes in MMOs and was a little bummed out when MCH felt just like one.
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