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UmOk posted:Best part of Star Wars I am so into this. Still trying to figure out what the spider/crab/xenomorph has to do with Obi Wan.
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SleepCousinDeath posted:I am so into this. Someone made an effort post about him struggling with being a closet homosexual. I wish I could find that post. I mean he pokes it with a big hard stick and the creature breaks it in half.
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Instant Sunrise posted:i can't believe it took me this long to realize that as of rogue one, there are just as many star wars movies not directed by george lucas as there are ones he did direct. It was 2:1 against until PM and only got to a tie again with AotC so that's been the case as often as not. Bit unfair though because my understanding is he did do a lot of directorial work on at least Empire. One of the legit Star Wars historionerds like Cnut or Bongo Bill can correct me
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UmOk posted:Someone made an effort post about him struggling with being a closet homosexual. I wish I could find that post. Yeah, I figured it's either that or something about Jedi repressing their sexuality.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:22
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It's a praying mantis, and we know what praying mantises do to their mates.
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Instant Sunrise posted:i can't believe it took me this long to realize that as of rogue one, there are just as many star wars movies not directed by george lucas as there are ones he did direct. That was also true as of Return of the Jedi
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I can't find Cnut's original post re: AOTC Sex Chat, but it's quoted on this page: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3755790&pagenumber=768&perpage=40#post467664862
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Yaws posted:That arena battle at the end is so over the top it's like it was written by a child They get slaughtered is what. You know I always used to dislike it when the Jedi came out at the beginning of that battle. I was like, they're all just showy and in the end they're a bunch of lame chumps. Then I thought about it, and Yoda earlier on in the very same film explicitly says that's what the Jedi are now and it's a huge problem he doesn't know how to fix. Winifred Madgers fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Jun 4, 2017 02:26
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There were 212 Jedi that showed up. About 30 survived. What a bunch of chumps
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General Dog posted:That was also true as of Return of the Jedi You mean ESB?
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Maxwell Lord posted:I enjoy how much it wears its influences on its sleeve- it's really obvious that Obi-Wan's stuff is a vintage detective story, that the landscapes are out of Golden Age sci-fi pulp covers, the monsters in the arena are a Harryhausen homage, there are maser tanks from the Toho kaiju movies in the big ground battle, etc.  It's also why I'm the only person who loved John Carter.
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dialhforhero posted:You mean ESB? I doubt that's what they meant since when ESB came out there was the same number of Star Wars movies directed by George Lucas than there were by other people, not more. :O
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Pops Mgee posted:Where is Fate of Atlantis? Between I and II in that list; and it absolutely counts with the movies.
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porfiria posted:You definitely kind of get the feeling with a lot of the stuff that people miss from the OT (more naturalistic acting styles and dialogue, relatable characters) are things that Georgie either felt obliged to veer towards or seeped in via osmosis in 1977 and that he sort of just eliminated in 99. Well, I think he even said the reason he started with "episode 4" was because he knew that the story of the fall of the Republic wouldn't be as easily appealing to the average viewer. So that may also be why he cared more about including things in the original trilogy that would appeal to anyone, since it didn't have the cache of Star Wars as a franchise yet.
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I like everything about this        
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Silly boys, you don't have to fight over little 'ol me~ But if you do, I'm rooting for the hot one.
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I love how Palpatine always has that same chair
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FlamingLiberal posted:I love how Palpatine always has that same chair I love the little spin at the beginning. He knows he utterly in command.
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Jun 4, 2017 16:38
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my first gif is not anything special
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El Burbo posted:There were 212 Jedi that showed up. I mean, they did kill a bunch of droids that no one should care about because droids aren't people.
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Jun 4, 2017 22:47
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There has to be one person on this earth that understands the comic timing of that scene and can slap it on to something else. Commander Cody signaling to shoot Obi Wan is not the place for the title.
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SleepCousinDeath posted:my first gif I don't care who knows it, my dream home has Padme's sick-rear end porch + grill.
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CelticPredator posted:There has to be one person on this earth that understands the comic timing of that scene and can slap it on to something else. Commander Cody signaling to shoot Obi Wan is not the place for the title. It should play normal a little bit before Order 66 wth Cody and Obi Wan then music plays as call goes in and title card as Obi Wan gets shot.
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I picked up vol.1 of the Darth Vader comic on a whim, and it's actually done quite a good job of matching the aesthetic of the original films, while telling a new story. I'm pretty impressed at the choices they've made that run counter to other elements in Star Wars - there's an evil R2D2 + C3PO who Vader recruits - along with a profiteering 'archaeologist' who I think is setup to be an anti-Indiana Jones figure. Might be the best bit of 'expanded' Star Wars I've enjoyed in a long time.
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Beeez posted:Well, I think he even said the reason he started with "episode 4" was because he knew that the story of the fall of the Republic wouldn't be as easily appealing to the average viewer. So that may also be why he cared more about including things in the original trilogy that would appeal to anyone, since it didn't have the cache of Star Wars as a franchise yet. He wasn't actually originally going to make a movie about the fall of the Republic, though. That's really just one of those simplified sound bite things he does for interviews. The original script's first act has some scenes which take place on the Imperial capital world, and there's also a big Vietnam-infused political subplot involving the invasion of the sovereign planet of Utapau by an oppressive technological army while self-interested senators squabble over courses of action that's obviously a prototype of all the political machinations in the prequels (Naboo was even called Utapau in early drafts of TPM). Those were the kinds of things he was interested in dealing with back in 1975 but had to cut out for being too convoluted and hard to pull off, but the fall of the Republic itself was always just part of the backstory. But very shortly after the original movie came out Lucas is on record in interviews musing about going back and making movies about that backstory, and it's likely he was thinking about all that even before then at some point while actually making the movie. It just wasn't part of the original original plan. Yaws posted:That arena battle at the end is so over the top it's like it was written by a child Why is that a bad thing? The original Star Wars is defined by being bombastic, over-the-top, and full of childish glee. How is showing an army of Jedi with lightsabers drawn rushing against hordes of opposing killer droids in the Clone Wars anything but an entirely appropriate setpiece for a prequel trilogy depicting the Jedi Order at the height of its power? That's the entire idea: showing the Jedi in an entirely different, contrasting context from what we're familiar with in the OT. In the OT, the Jedi are few in number, old, faded, and scattered across the galaxy hiding in caves. In the PT, they operate out in the open in large groups as an organized knightly force to be reckoned with. The contrast between the trilogies puts truth to the idea that their "fire has gone out of the universe", and that things have changed greatly since their glory days as legendary warriors and respected guardians of the Republic. Tolkien uses pretty much the same device in his works. In LOTR, Elves are elusive, rare, and near-mythical creatures hidden away in secluded sanctuaries, concealed almost always from mortal view. But in The Silmarillion, there are titanic armies of Elves parading across the countryside, leading massive military campaigns, and mingling freely with Men and all the rest of the mundane races of Middle-earth. The idea, once again, is to clearly illustrate the extent to which the Elves have diminished and become little more than faded myths in a world where they were once simply a glorious fact of life.
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Cnut the Great posted:He wasn't actually originally going to make a movie about the fall of the Republic, though. That's really just one of those simplified sound bite things he does for interviews. The original script's first act has some scenes which take place on the Imperial capital world, and there's also a big Vietnam-infused political subplot involving the invasion of the sovereign planet of Utapau by an oppressive technological army while self-interested senators squabble over courses of action that's obviously a prototype of all the political machinations in the prequels (Naboo was even called Utapau in early drafts of TPM). Those were the kinds of things he was interested in dealing with back in 1975 but had to cut out for being too convoluted and hard to pull off, but the fall of the Republic itself was always just part of the backstory. But very shortly after the original movie came out Lucas is on record in interviews musing about going back and making movies about that backstory, and it's likely he was thinking about all that even before then at some point while actually making the movie. It just wasn't part of the original original plan. Fair enough, but my overall point still stands. People think Lucas made the prequels more convoluted and politics-based because he somehow forgot how to do a more simplified, action-y story, but he always wanted to detail how things got to the point they were in ANH one way or the other, he just realized it wouldn't be as marketable for the first experience audiences had with it. Much like the way the Ewoks originate from how, in early drafts of the original movie, there's a whole sequence where they meet with Wookiees on a forest planet and teach them how to fly X-Wings to destroy the DS, his ideas for the prequels do have a nascent presence in the original brainstorming sessions for the first movie. I think it's interesting that, when he was first deciding what number he'd give Star Wars when it was re-released in theaters, he actually considered making it episode 6 because he thought he might have an entire Clone Wars trilogy in between episode I and the movie that would sort of serve the function Revenge of the Sith ended up serving. It seems like he only entertained that idea very briefly, but it's still sort of like the precursor to the Clone Wars TV series.
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Silamrillion ( most parts) was written years and decades before lord of the rings but it is a good analogy. There is tons of elves on Loth Lorien even in Lord of the rings tho.
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Cnut the Great posted:Why is that a bad thing? It's gauche, pandering and unimaginative.
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Yaws posted:It's gauche, pandering and unimaginative. Actually, it's good.
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Yaws posted:It's gauche, pandering and unimaginative. What's wrong with pandering? Specifically in the case of a massively popular piece of popular entertainment with a huge fanbase? What's wrong with doing something to please those fans? If you're not trying to please your audience with a Star Wars film, what the gently caress are you trying to do with it?
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He actually did the opposite of pandering.
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Weren't V and VI pandering to IV?
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I feel like if you focus grouped people before the prequels came out, probably one of the only things everyone would agree on is that they expect to see charging armies of Jedi. The fact that you say its dumb is just proof that there's no way Lucas was ever going to make most people happy.
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euphronius posted:He actually did the opposite of pandering. Nah, speaking for myself as a 14/15 year old, I was super psyched for armies of Jedi.
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I remember wishing I was the Jedi with the tall forehead.
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euphronius posted:Silamrillion ( most parts) was written years and decades before lord of the rings but it is a good analogy. Not in the real world though. Lothlorien, Mirkwood, and, to a lesser extent, Rivendell, are reclusive strongholds that don't interact much with outsiders. The Elves in Lothlorien just about shoot the Fellowship on sight, and Mirkwood's trade with Lake Town is pretty impersonal, by barrels in the river. Elves are a wondrously rare sight for most of the other inhabitants of Middle-earth.
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Lampsacus posted:I remember wishing I was the Jedi with the tall forehead. Fun fact: that Jedi is one of the last males of his race. So in the old expanded universe he would periodically duck out of being a Jedi to go home, and this is true f***, a bunch of people to propagate his species. Admittedly I overheard this on a Star Wars role-playing game podcast as a joke so it may not actually be a thing in the old EU.
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Covok posted:Fun fact: that Jedi is one of the last males of his race. So in the old expanded universe he would periodically duck out of being a Jedi to go home, and this is true f***, a bunch of people to propagate his species. Admittedly I overheard this on a Star Wars role-playing game podcast as a joke so it may not actually be a thing in the old EU. quote:Assigned the Jedi Watchman of the Cerean sector, Mundi was granted a rare exception to the Jedi Order's ban on marriage due to his species' low birth rate and had a polygamous family of five wives and seven children, although he tried to avoid developing emotional attachments to them. whoa nice
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