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So, is Corbyn hitting May over wanting to censor the internet or is Labor staying out of it out of some dumb notion respect or fear of looking soft on terror?
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:So, is Corbyn hitting May over wanting to censor the internet or is Labor staying out of it out of some dumb notion respect or fear of looking soft on terror? i dont know whether people outside nerdlingers really care enough atm for them to say anything
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Jun 4, 2017 22:01
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It's a UK government IT project meaning it'll be given to a private company to do, take over a decade to see anything from it and then not work anyway.
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Jun 4, 2017 22:03
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phwoar imagine a corbyn led labour major IT project where the contract didn't go to the company offering suspiciously 1/4 of all the rest and have it abandoned costing 3x more than all the others by the end
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Jun 4, 2017 22:05
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Nonsense posted:The PRD have been forever mocked as the looney left, it will be interesting to see if Obrador can rise to the occasion. Yeah he broke off, took most of the voters with him, and is now leading in the polls. This will be the first election where the PRI isn't in the top two.
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Jose posted:phwoar imagine a corbyn led labour major IT project where the contract didn't go to the company offering suspiciously 1/4 of all the rest and have it abandoned costing 3x more than all the others by the end
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Jun 4, 2017 22:15
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babypolis posted:theres a big election coming up in mexico this week and british ge, should be a fun week Please make one friendo. 
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Jun 4, 2017 22:15
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Ayyy guey this is now the chingado mexico thread
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Jun 4, 2017 22:22
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Aliquid posted:Ayyy guey this is now the chingado mexico thread the reason the U.K. border regime has been getting tighter is because miss may knew this would happen!!
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Aliquid posted:Ayyy guey this is now the chingado mexico thread lol from facebook just now  most everyone i know is in PAN country tho
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babypolis posted:theres a big election coming up in mexico this week and british ge, should be a fun week
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World War Mammories posted:yeah, there's no way that netanyahu's high score can compare to hitler's or stalin's Not exactly. Jeremy Corbyn is, in general, a good egg and someone very much on the left. The current Labour manifesto has a lot of good ideas, whereas the Conservative one only has a few okay ideas, but insists on continual cuts going into the future. There is still a problem of underfunding of public services and the problem of higher taxation for Richer citizens which, again, the conservatives refuse to consider. There are also divisions within Labour, ones that are long lasting and very much coming to the surface now. The internal fights of most political parties are usually fairly simplistic, but this is a long slog between the PLP (or Parliamentary Labour Party), consisting of most of the Members of Parliament and people who make up a share of committees, and the LP (Labour Party), who are members of the Labour party. At the present time the Labour Party numbers have gone up hugely over large numbers of interested and involved young people getting into it. It has also lead to people becoming increasingly angry at the PLP for not "getting out of the way". The PLP is generally considered, quite rightly in some cases, to be terrified of going too far Left, as they see it as part of "triangulation" like with Clinton in the USA. Most of them are from the time of Tony Blair and see politics as a career not as a "calling". They are generally Pro-USA, Pro-EU and Anti-Taxation. The Labour Party members are far further to the Left they are generally suspicious of the USA, Pro Europe (but often anti EU) and pro taxation for the wealthiest. At present Corbyn is definitely in the latter camp. His style of "Avuncular but none creepy Uncle" has gone down well with people and his policies are generally well liked. The problem is that the PLP is so scared of turning leftwards and being terrified of the Murdoch Press that they were convinced that this election was going to be a disaster for Corbyn. As is, due to unforced errors on the Conservative side as well as generally quite good campaigning for Labour, Corbyn is doing rather well. Even some of the bigger guns of the PLP and allies are saying "vote for Corbyn" now, instead of sulking quietly. Of course this is WAY too simplified. But this should give you a rough overview, it does include my own biases of course.
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Jun 4, 2017 23:00
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lol at top gear crew insulting mexican food when it's basically the best beef, and moles/guisados are essentially curries
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keep in mind that's the best poll out of Labour and looking at all polling companies the Tory lead is somewhere between 1 and 15 points so basically uhh some party or other is going to win some seats somewhere, probably
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these polls clearly point to a surprise victory by the red tories. they're the only ones who address the issues facing 70+% of the public
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im wary if this is taking into account a huge youth swing from 2015, but I don't know anything about British polls, besides they are notoriously everywhere.
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I''m leery after the false Ed Dawn of yesteryear. Also, world is gently caress, born to die.
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Holy lol. What an incredible few weeks.
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I thought Corbyn would get stabbed post election, but if he can keep it this close in spite of the stupid media poo poo he gets, or even snatch a win, he's staying put.
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rudatron posted:I thought Corbyn would get stabbed post election, but if he can keep it this close in spite of the stupid media poo poo he gets, or even snatch a win, he's staying put. lmfao if you think labour won't do everything they can to oust him regardless of outcome
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they gon' need to change the voting process to PLP-only if they want to have any hope of ousting him if he gets one more seat than miliband he's a loving hero
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rudatron posted:Holy lol. If anything, this shows May hosed up big. She went in trying to solidify and make gains and at the very, very least she's not. At the most, she's losing to another party. Either way, not the landslide she was looking for it seems right now. Running from debates was probably the nail in the coffin if the Tories lose. Corbyn tying her to Trump was masterful.
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Corbyn ran a way better campaign than even people who liked him thought he would, and the Tories have done absolutely everything wrong. This is just as hilarious as 2016.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Corbyn ran a way better campaign than even people who liked him thought he would, and the Tories have done absolutely everything wrong. This is just as hilarious as 2016. And not even in a nihilist way This election is insane and also good and cool. When is the last time any of us could say that?
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Aliquid posted:And not even in a nihilist way 2008 Dem primaries probably.
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Aliquid posted:And not even in a nihilist way Whoever wins it will be a hilarious poo poo show and even funnier if no one wins, which is apparently a possible outcome.
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Nasty Nigel
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Jeb! Repetition posted:2008 Dem primaries probably.  and obamarama spreadsheets thohakimashou posted:Whoever wins it will be a hilarious poo poo show and even funnier if no one wins, which is apparently a possible outcome. i love that 10% of y'all's seats are tied up with other parties in NI and scotland, bring on the coalitions
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Aliquid posted:that was all It was still pretty insane that a black dude named Hussein Osama not only beat Hillary Clinton for the dem nomination but also went on to become president in a landslide.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It was still pretty insane that a black dude named Hussein Osama not only beat Hillary Clinton for the dem nomination but also went on to become president in a landslide. And then get reelected. America is the greatest country in the world.
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https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/871484034643263489quote:The UK Labour Party has vowed to suspend arms sales to Saudi Arabia, as part of a return to an "ethical foreign policy," the shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry said on Friday. Anybody who doesn't vote for Labour is evil. You're not a good person if you don't at least vote Labour.
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hakimashou posted:And then get reelected. i was in nigeria for that went to sleep not knowing the outcome, walked out into the street and people started screaming OBAMA at me and it continued for miles okay that kinda owned
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/871484034643263489 wait so wikileaks is pro-trump and pro-corbyn
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fingers crossed Top City Homo posted:Nasty Nigel Disparage the Farage imo
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hakimashou posted:Whoever wins it will be a hilarious poo poo show and even funnier if no one wins, which is apparently a possible outcome. Cameron thought no-one was going to win in 2015 which is why he promised the brexit vote, it would have been the first thing to go in coalition negotiations
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Aliquid posted:wait so wikileaks is pro-trump and pro-corbyn They're supposedly in favor of anything that weakens the Western order vis-a-vis Putin, and I guess you could argue that NATO's alliance with Saudi Arabia is part of that. But I think their actual politics if any are more complicated than that.
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