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Roland Jones posted:
actually I said the regime being toppled wouldn't be so bad and someone else said the only people to die would be slaves But yeah I'm literally Hitler for wanting an explanation why the collapse of slave owning dictatorships is bad 
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With the players involved it would just result in another slave owning dictatorship, only a lot of people will have died
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Jun 5, 2017 05:49
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maskenfreiheit posted:I literally explained my logic on the last page: CENTCOM is there, so yes, they're important.
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Jun 5, 2017 05:50
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maskenfreiheit posted:actually I said the regime being toppled wouldn't be so bad and someone else said the only people to die would be slaves Because, again, thousands of innocent people will die. This has been said many, many times. You have to be deliberately ignoring this or something because it has been said repeatedly, including in my post you're quoting. And yes, as people said, the new regime would probably just be worse anyway. A Saudi puppet or something probably. So, no improvement, just a lot of dead people.
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Tarezax posted:With the players involved it would just result in another slave owning dictatorship, only a lot of people will have died Because Arabs can't sustain a democratic republic? Wow.
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Grapplejack posted:CENTCOM is there, so yes, they're important. We literally JUST discussed that. Catch up axeil posted:US CENTCOM is in Qatar. If KSA/Bahrain/UAE go in guns blazing and we don't move CENTCOM there's a pretty good chance they get hit and now we have the KSA actually killing US citizens/servicemembers instead of just looking the other way while their nationals fly planes into buildings. It would be an enormous crisis.
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Jun 5, 2017 05:51
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maskenfreiheit posted:Because Arabs can't sustain a democratic republic? Okay I had a feeling you were just trolling but you tipped your hand with this one. Not worth engaging.
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Jun 5, 2017 05:53
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maskenfreiheit posted:Because Arabs can't sustain a democratic republic? Is there any conceivable scenario where a war between Qatar and other gulf states results in a robust Qatari democracy movement?
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Roland Jones posted:Okay I had a feeling you were just trolling but you tipped your hand with this one. Not worth engaging. Well this is the Trump thread anyways so happy to move on. 👍 Flavahbeast posted:Is there any conceivable scenario where a war between Qatar and other gulf states results in a robust Qatari democracy movement? Please take the "can Qataris handle democracy" talk to the ME thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3390388&perpage=40&pagenumber=2998 maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Jun 5, 2017 05:54
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axeil posted:Israel sunk a US warship and there's evidence it may have been on purpose in an attempt to draw the US into the Six Days War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident). If that doesn't get us to tell Israel to gently caress off, I'm not sure a stray mortar would get us to anything with KSA. We can't tell God's chosen people to gently caress off, that wouldn't be very Christian of us! Besides, we've got plenty of (((problems))) to take care of at home right now.
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Jun 5, 2017 05:57
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pillsburysoldier posted:What's Evergreen College and why to conservatives and Joe Rogan want to use it suddenly to say college is bad My limited understanding is that Evergreen is, beyond even Berkeley, the bad stereotype of liberal collegiate discourse that conservative media depicts all higher learning as.
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Jun 5, 2017 05:58
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maskenfreiheit posted:thanks but why is a war bad? Interesting, furthermore what's the thread consensus on Pestilence, Famine, and Death? Possibly good things? Just asking questions please be polite ty
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Jun 5, 2017 06:04
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We're not going to war with Saudi Arabia. What the loving hell.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:05
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Zero_Grade posted:Pretty poo poo surfing, though the heights are pretty awe-inspiring, especially to us Northeasterners from Vero. Didn't stop half my graduating class of rich douchebags from wasting a few grand of their parents money on surfboards so they could sit on rear end in the sun and get caught in my lines.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:06
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maskenfreiheit posted:I literally explained my logic on the last page: I wasn't commenting on your logic, since you didn't actually have any in that post, I was commenting on your posting style. If you'd like to seriously discuss things, perhaps don't make troll-style patronizing one liner posts meant to antagonize. Your clarification post should've been the original post in the first place. Then you roll out this: maskenfreiheit posted:wow, that's pretty rude. if you'd like to have a discussion i'm happy to, it's pretty telling that a series of polite questions is eliciting such a hostile response Well poo poo, I made this post so I guess I fell for it too.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:07
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No, but they may go to war with Qatar
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RandomBlue posted:I wasn't commenting on your logic, since you didn't actually have any in that post, I was commenting on your posting style. If you'd like to seriously discuss things, perhaps don't make troll-style patronizing one liner posts meant to antagonize. K
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Jun 5, 2017 06:08
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In what fantasy world would the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia install a democracy in a conquered state
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Jun 5, 2017 06:12
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Why are people engaging with such an obvious trolling attempt? Come on, anyone who posts the question "thanks but why is war bad?" is obviously not asking in good faith.
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NoDamage posted:Why are people engaging with such an obvious trolling attempt? Come on, anyone who posts the question "thanks but why is war bad?" is obviously not asking in good faith. It's like dealing with Conservatives on the internet. Sure, you're hopeful that by conversing with them you may change their viewpoint but half the time you just walk away feeling like they were taking you for a ride.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:23
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You'll have to pry my Conservative Christian Conspiracists FB friends of friends from my cold dead hands
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Jun 5, 2017 06:25
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Tarezax posted:In what fantasy world would the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia install a democracy in a conquered state Yeah, it would just be a horizontal integration of the House of Saud, with one of the Saudi princes being given his own vassal state instead of waiting in line for King Salman to expire.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:27
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Let's talk about Trump in the Trump thread https://twitter.com/thehill/status/871591427008061441
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Jun 5, 2017 06:28
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i never liked peyton manning anyway
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Jun 5, 2017 06:32
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If only we were so blessed as to have Trump spend his 4 years doing nothing but using his position to rub elbows and show off to his other C-list celebrity friends.
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VitalSigns posted:Interesting, furthermore what's the thread consensus on Pestilence, Famine, and Death? Possibly good things? Just asking questions please be polite ty Schizotek posted:Didn't stop half my graduating class of rich douchebags from wasting a few grand of their parents money on surfboards so they could sit on rear end in the sun and get caught in my lines.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:44
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Autism Sneaks posted:If only we were so blessed as to have Trump spend his 4 years doing nothing but using his position to rub elbows and show off to his other C-list celebrity friends. Yeah, Taft 2.0 would have been a blessing.
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Crabtree posted:And this is what happens when you allow civilians to buy AA-12 and armor piercing rounds. Soon they'll demand RPGs sold in Walmart and not even police tanks will be able to hold up here. Why dump all that money into a semi auto shotgun that a 70 buck rifle can do 100 times better?
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Jun 5, 2017 06:47
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I remember reading the theory that Iraq invaded Kuwait because Saddam misinterpreted statements the US ambassador made as tacit approval and a promise that the US wouldn't step in. So now I'm wondering if something similar is happening here. Did Trump say something so stupid that KSA assumed this would be fine? Or more likely, he said nothing but has proven himself to be so incompetent and corrupt that they're betting he won't do anything anyway. Joke may be on them, if the right people make a fuss about this Trump may lash out to avoid looking like he's been had. His ego is his biggest concern. Best case scenario is this de-escalates.
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Autism Sneaks posted:If only we were so blessed as to have Trump spend his 4 years doing nothing but using his position to rub elbows and show off to his other C-list celebrity friends. Thankfully Trump seems completely unfazed by the criticism of his frequent golfing and continues on no matter how bad it makes him look. Because otherwise we really could have ended up feeling really dumb that we were encouraging him to do his job more.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:49
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At least it wasn't Tom Brady golfing with Trump. Man gently caress the Patriots.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:49
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Is this Trump's fault somehow? Or his admin? Seems like we don't know enough to say much at all yet, I guess.
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Covok posted:Yeah, Taft 2.0 would have been a blessing. TBF, Harding did nothing but gamble for his time in office while his cabinet hosed the country up.
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empty whippet box posted:Is this Trump's fault somehow? Or his admin? Seems like we don't know enough to say much at all yet, I guess. a beautiful thing about these detached, incompetent administrations is that nothing is really anyone's fault because no one has any idea whats happening
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empty whippet box posted:Is this Trump's fault somehow? Or his admin? Seems like we don't know enough to say much at all yet, I guess. There's a theory that this might have been moved along by Trump being so cozy with Saudi Arabia and Co and them growing confident that he'd side with them where Obama tried to deal with the GCC more diplomatically as a whole. But it just seems to be a theory.
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empty whippet box posted:Is this Trump's fault somehow? Or his admin? Seems like we don't know enough to say much at all yet, I guess. In terms of a truthful and genuinely causal standpoint? I don't think we know enough to say yet. In terms of a PR standpoint? Yes? I've generally come to understand that, at least in America, anything and everything that happens during a president's tenure is generally seen as somehow - right or wrong - a fault of that president. Add on top of that that this is all happening shortly after Trump's Big Adventure and I can't imagine any way that the average American doesn't see this as somehow Trump's fault.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:52
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We did just agree to sell 100 billion of arms to Saudi Arabia, I guess.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:55
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Mustached Demon posted:At least it wasn't Tom Brady golfing with Trump. Man gently caress the Patriots. I mean they are both fuccbois of the highest caliber, but at least the Patriots have Gronk.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:56
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empty whippet box posted:We did just agree to sell 100 billion of arms to Saudi Arabia, I guess. Go team!
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DrNutt posted:I mean they are both fuccbois of the highest caliber, but at least the Patriots have Gronk. Gronks basically a 16 year old punk kid.
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