MikeCrotch posted:

My sister is a Lib Dem and Nick Clegg is still her favourite politician

I love her and she usually has good views (she helps out the homeless, stuff like that) but i literally did a when she told me this

jBrereton posted:

gently caress are you on about lol

Almost all of Europe now has pretty hard right government, including woke rear end pretty ones like Ireland or France. He is to the left within Europe even if he wants to leave it.

hakimashou posted:

You guys are just going to have to suffer through trumpism to one extent or another with us, fences can be mended later.

I don't think corbyn is some existential threat to britain or europe or stability, but he's not mainstream and he could be disruptive. He's far too friendly toward bad actors like Iran and probably Venezuela and suffers from the disgusting shame of many from that kind of left where American ""imperialism"" is imagined to be the worst of all ills. Its tragic that the good kind of leftism get stained with that debased wretchedness.

I don't think its too controversial to say that there is more to Corbyn than just Labour's manifesto. He doesn't seem very friendly to britain's powerful financial sector either.

I do believe and have said before that any harm he is able to do to NATO and the military solidarity of democratic countries might well be offset by making the brexit 'softer' and maintaining european solidarity there.

I do think he'd be probably be better for british people than Theresa May, and if I were British I could not bring myself to vote for a tory, just as I would never vote for a Republican here.

He is divisive and disruptive because he's outside the liberal political consensus of the democratic world. That's reason enough by itself for Russia to prefer him and for its agents like wikileaks to do their thing. The Brexit itself is the main boon to the Kremlin, but I don't think they're putting themselves out too much having wikileaks nudge things toward a little extra icing on the cake.

hakimashou posted:

It's from the british DnD thread. The yellow cartoon guy is Pissflaps, someone bought me this avatar to look like his. It's a great honor, he is one of the best posters on SA.

American imperialism certainly hasn't been good, but fellow travelers and other people tend to use it as a catch-all for everything American, and even at some of our worst moments it was means to a worthy end. Not all but some.

Like I said, the issue is when ""american imperialism"" with the big double quotation marks around it is fixated on as the worst thing on earth, even to the extent that people are willing to debase themselves by siding with real monsters.

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

a good post imo

Baron Corbyn posted:

There are more Americans in this thread who might not know enough about hak or British politics to realise he talks a load of bullocks

Karl Barks posted:

he's also not british

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

literally the biggest lmao in my life if true

https://twitter.com/shashj/status/871695327212044288

got any sevens posted:

may has let what, 3 terror attacks happen in less than a year? she gonna get voted out?

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

hak has reasonable opinions and he's pro corbyn what more do you want

Peel posted:

recognising the rights and full humanity of the palestinian people

Jeb! Repetition posted:

The problem with the tankie/Maoist far left types isn't that they say America is imperialist and that's bad. Nobody can really argue when you look at our stated foreign policy and well-documented actions of the CIA. No, the problem with those guys is they think American imperialism explains everything bad that ever happens, and anyone who opposes America in any way for any reason is automatically good.

And I don't think Corbyn is like that really.

Baron Corbyn posted:

There are more Americans in this thread who might not know enough about hak or British politics to realise he talks a load of bullocks

Karl Barks posted:

he's also not british

Frijolero posted:

Corbyn is a threat to Daddy US

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

a good post imo

Jeb! Repetition posted:

claims that a person's wealth has a 1:1 correlation to the quality of decisions they've made.

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

corbyn is going to suck daddy off extra hard is he scraps the nukes actually lol

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Sorry to helldump, but you're the dude who makes GBS posts about how great Elon Musk is, say things like "bleeding heart liberal" unironically, and claims that a person's wealth has a 1:1 correlation to the quality of decisions they've made.

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

if you can find a source for this one beyond the tiny green men living in your head that would be cool

Frijolero posted:

Hmm yes, the dastardly Soviets and perfidious Chinese are just waiting to eliminate Anglo Land from the face of the earth. Thank god for the giant, bumbling decadent, US.

Fullhouse posted:

the only thing stopping Chinese and Russian oligarchs from sitting on Western property for financial purposes is having a strong united NATO, which is why they currently aren't doing that at all

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

dunno about eliminating but they've been pretty good at buying it up

Jose posted:

extremely unlikely but rather than winning in a landslide it could be really closed in which case the party might get rid of her because she hosed it up so badly. she's now less popular than corbyn despite being the most popular PM ever when she called the election

Stabbatical posted:

how do you gently caress up that badly

jesus

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