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AlexDeGruven posted:Coworker was mucking about with ramdrives one day and this abomination came to be. We were not proud of it. Ramdrive RAID as one tier, Zip disk RAID as another.
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Actually, that gives me a question. Did anyone here not start as someone who was just "good with computers" when they started working/studying/training? Did anyone get into this without first being a hobbyist of some sort?
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Actually, that gives me a question. Did anyone here not start as someone who was just "good with computers" when they started working/studying/training? Did anyone get into this without first being a hobbyist of some sort? My first job was AppleCare Tech Support, right out of highschool. Before then, I was better with computers than most people, but that isn't saying much...
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IndustrialApe posted:Yes, but after 40-odd+ years of IT, there's knowledge about how to implement, how to make IT function as part of a greater process and that's what gets taught in schools. I never went to school for it, tbh. That said, I do have a couple holes in my knowledge base, such as an absolute terror of network gear more complex than a dumb switch. Buying a router that tuned out to be half defective has only made that worse(tho it increased my knowledge base about ubiquiti!)
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Wilford Cutlery posted:Weird, today must be the day for these incidents. This happened to a friend of mine this morning:
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Actually, that gives me a question. Did anyone here not start as someone who was just "good with computers" when they started working/studying/training? Did anyone get into this without first being a hobbyist of some sort? A friend of mine had no interest in computers, got an IS degree because he needed to do something and has now been working in IT for 15-ish years. There's a lady in the IT group of one of our subs that started as a business analyst intern with no prior knowledge. I'm definitely in the "was good with computers" camp.
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Jun 5, 2017 20:11
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Thanks Ants posted:Ramdrive RAID as one tier, Zip disk RAID as another. Could you make a raid array of network drives that are themselves just logical partitions of one physical drive?
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Jun 5, 2017 20:12
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My brother and I were "Good with computers" and they were our hobby, but once you get a job you realize that your "hobby" knowledge does not apply very well to the corporate world. My specific knowledge I gained on my own wasn't as useful, but my skills at figuring poo poo out was just as useful.
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Jun 5, 2017 20:15
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Kurieg posted:Could you make a raid array of network drives that are themselves just logical partitions of one physical drive? Yes. Or at least you could.
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MF_James posted:My brother and I were "Good with computers" and they were our hobby, but once you get a job you realize that your "hobby" knowledge does not apply very well to the corporate world. My specific knowledge I gained on my own wasn't as useful, but my skills at figuring poo poo out was just as useful. Definitely. I feel like the most important skills you learn are critical thinking and Googling. Also possibly the important lesson of "gently caress printers forever goddammit stuff them all full of C4.
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Jun 5, 2017 20:23
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The tech on my team that is a total imbecile was "good at computers" in the workplace... in the late '90s. Not a hobbyist. Hasn't learned anything in 15+ years. Makes 20% more than I do. Your tax dollars hard at work. Quoted last week saying "well the internet is down so we can't do any work orders like fixing printers or anything".
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Jun 5, 2017 20:28
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Definitely. I feel like the most important skills you learn are critical thinking and Googling. Also possibly the important lesson of "gently caress printers forever goddammit stuff them all full of C4. That's the most important thing to start with on a guy getting into the field. If they never broaden that with learning things, certs, and doing best practices then you get striped RAID5s. On the bright side, thanks to those people those of us who can clean that poo poo up never want for work.
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I'm still good with computers. I just have a lot of them now. And they're expensive
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Jun 5, 2017 20:41
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I'm good with computers and throw hardware around all day but the thought of going home to fix my own PC issues just makes me want to spend  and have someone else do it.
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suuma posted:I'm good with computers and throw hardware around all day but the thought of going home to fix my own PC issues just makes me want to spend I haven't built a PC from the ground up since I was being paid professionally to do computer poo poo. I own a MacBook Pro and a NUC, chuck them on eBay when they get old and replace them.
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Jun 5, 2017 20:58
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The last home computer I spend any time on setting up was my media center pc. I built it over a long weekend, setup sickbeard and plex, got it all setup and it just works and haven't touched it apart from adding new shows to sickbeard in nearly 4 years.
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MF_James posted:So, what the gently caress was the weapon if it wasn't a knife? They never say, at least not in the article, I'll be damned if I'm going to listen to some idiot news caster though. Just assume it was a Bat'leth and you'll have a less stressful day.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:26
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I have built 2 computers in the past few years, mine and my fiancee's, it was painless and inexpensive (relatively). Compared to the first computer I built, this was a loving breeze, everything is documented so well in manuals, and it was pretty quick, 2 hours or less to do it. I got lucky and didn't have to RMA anything, which was nice. As far as troubleshooting issues? I don't want to do it, I want to come home and have that poo poo working.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:30
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Kurieg posted:Could you make a raid array of network drives that are themselves just logical partitions of one physical drive? You could totally do that with iSCSI LUNs. Bonus points if the LUNS all point to a single raid 5 or 6 array on the SAN, and you get the 5 LUNs together and make it a raid 0 to boost the IOPS!
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I still upgrade my computer myself because I don't feel like paying someone $100 and hoping they don't gently caress it up. Maybe I would have my old friend who I learned computers with and shared tons of parts with do it, but I don't want to rub it in his face that I'm making a bunch of money and he's working his way through college at a bagel place until he can get a job as an EMT. He's one of the only people I would trust with it. Next time I do a major upgrade I'm getting a new case. This one is from 2005 or 2006 and is beat to poo poo.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Definitely. I feel like the most important skills you learn are critical thinking and Googling. Also possibly the important lesson of "gently caress printers forever goddammit stuff them all full of C4. 100% agree with this. The other thing that helps is having someone in charge of you with two things: 1. A wealth of experience for you to draw on when you have a question you can't resolve with your own research. 2. A willingness to let you get your hands dirty in as many ways as possible. There's a ton of stuff you just never see in a personal environment because there's no need for a way to deploy an application to a hundred machines or restrict access policy or run a script in powershell most of the time, but having a boss that'll just give you a goal and let you figure it out while they oversee to make sure you don't blow up the company helps a ton.
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I'm still trying to hammer it into my mom's brain that just because I'm "good with computers" and managed to grunt out a functional wordpress site once doesn't mean I'm qualified to hang out a shingle as a web designer.
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Agrikk posted:The thing that ticks me off the most about that whole thing is his lack of backups. When I worked at a visual effects studio in the mid-00's there were no backups either. Video data consumes all available storage, artists don't clean their poo poo, no backups and archival was a constant job to keep space available
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Javid posted:I'm still trying to hammer it into my mom's brain that just because I'm "good with computers" and managed to grunt out a functional wordpress site once doesn't mean I'm qualified to hang out a shingle as a web designer. More qualified than the rear end hat I've been dealing with.
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Video people are impossible to provide storage for. If you leave an old array writeable while you're migrating content to a new system then somebody will go and fill it up within days, then start burning through G-Tech external disks that get knocked onto the floor.
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Thanks Ants posted:I haven't built a PC from the ground up since I was being paid professionally to do computer poo poo. I own a MacBook Pro and a NUC, chuck them on eBay when they get old and replace them.
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You can definitely be successful in IT if you start out as the "good with computers" kid somewhere. But you can only make that work if during your career you learn the skills that are important to working well in a corporate environment and with other people etc. You learn that if you have ideas about replacing Micro$haft Winblows with Based Gentoo your boss will laugh in your face. Etc. My point about Linus is that he never learned to be a real IT guy because he went into making videos and not in real IT. He's become good at making videos (wouldn't be so popular otherwise) and that's his job now and that's fine. But I wouldn't ask him for advice on designing a disaster recovery plan or whatever.
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spankmeister posted:You can definitely be successful in IT if you start out as the "good with computers" kid somewhere. But you can only make that work if during your career you learn the skills that are important to working well in a corporate environment and with other people etc. You learn that if you have ideas about replacing Micro$haft Winblows with Based Gentoo your boss will laugh in your face. Etc. Also half his channel's thing is "let's do crazy things with computers" and not "this is stuff you should do at home." At no point have I seen anyone on that channel suggest they are "real IT," whatever that is.
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The disaster recovery plan is googling data recovery firms.
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Deuce posted:Also half his channel's thing is "let's do crazy things with computers" and not "this is stuff you should do at home." At no point have I seen anyone on that channel suggest they are "real IT," whatever that is.
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4:00pm I lose conneciton to the monitoring software, with and error saying bad login info. Well that's normal, I just changed my password. Change it on the connection settings and still no go. Try to ping the server, nothing and then ping our other servers no response there either. Welp better go see whats going on in our server room in the building across the way. I walk out the door and there is a firetruck sitting at the building where our servers are. I get in the building and their whole IT team has mops and buckets. The air conditioning water pan sprung a large leak and the water flowed down the piping for our fire suppression system into our main switching room. Good start to the week.
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At least you get a chance to rebuild with a load of new gear
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anthonypants posted:He has a forum full of people soliciting him and his fans for advice. People ask for advice here too, that doesn't mean Lowtax advertises this as a professional IT help forum.
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Thanks Ants posted:At least you get a chance to rebuild Thanks Ants posted:with a load of new gear
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Thanks Ants posted:Video people are impossible to provide storage for. If you leave an old array writeable while you're migrating content to a new system then somebody will go and fill it up within days, then start burning through G-Tech external disks that get knocked onto the floor. Video MSP employee checking in! This is my life 
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Deuce posted:People ask for advice here too, that doesn't mean Lowtax advertises this as a professional IT help forum.
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anthonypants posted:I apologize if that analogy went over your head. Also, the channel is called "Linus Tech Tips"
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Actually, that gives me a question. Did anyone here not start as someone who was just "good with computers" when they started working/studying/training? Did anyone get into this without first being a hobbyist of some sort? I was 'that kid who is good with computers' and spend 4 years in college actively trying to pursue a career that would not land me in the IT field. Double major Communication Studies and French: my first job was helpdesk. 
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:I was 'that kid who is good with computers' and spend 4 years in college actively trying to pursue a career that would not land me in the IT field. If it makes you feel better, helpdesk is not bad to start. Software support thru a script is worse.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:I was 'that kid who is good with computers' and spend 4 years in college actively trying to pursue a career that would not land me in the IT field. History major with a concentration on the Middle East. But it turns out that if you have middling to bad grades, you can't get the jobs you wanted when you picked that field!
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