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So Vulcan. Gaiman saw Vulcan in America when he passed through Birmingham, Alabama, which has a statue of Vulcan on top of the mountain (Red Mountain, because it's full of iron ore) that overlooks the city. Birmingham is a steel town, because it has all the ingredients for making steel (iron ore, coal, and limestone) available locally in ready supply. Here he is:  The story bit about the forge being non-OSHA-compliant because it was cheaper to just pay off the families of the accident victims rather than shut down long enough to make the factory safe totally happened in Birmingham. Gaiman thought it was the closest thing to human sacrifice he'd ever heard of. Wylie fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Anyone else find it a little odd, possibly lazy, that at least one of the anti-immigrant militia members was holding a rosary? I mean, I get the point that both groups were Christians but anti-immigrant extremism in the US has almost always had anti-Catholic sentiments as a major part of their ideology. Of course, I'm not saying Catholics can't be anti-immigrant but the kind of people who would organize an actual death squad don't seem like they'd be too happy to allow Catholics into their club. It just seems like the writers wanted to make the point that both groups were Christians and used the rosary as a convenient symbol of that, either without realizing that it's a specifically Catholic symbol or without realizing the history of anti-Catholic bigotry in American nativist groups from the Know-Nothings to the KKK. Also, I just had a thought, since Jesus is resurrected after three days, I wonder if that's going to be the justification for multiple Jesuses. Like, Mexican Jesus is killed by a militiaman, then three days later Black Jesus appears and is killed by an out of control cop. Then three days later Appalachian Hillbilly Jesus pops up and dies while saving someone from a Nascar crash. stereobreadsticks fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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stereobreadsticks posted:Anyone else find it a little odd, possibly lazy, that at least one of the anti-immigrant militia members was holding a rosary? Dude... that was the lily-white, prosperity gospel preaching Republican Jesus. The Lion of Jewett.
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Jun 5, 2017 08:15
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That kiss on the cheek during the wound-tending scene totally felt like improv.
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Jun 5, 2017 09:00
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jfood posted:Dude... that was the lily-white, prosperity gospel preaching Republican Jesus. The Lion of Jewett. stereobreadsticks posted:Anyone else find it a little odd, possibly lazy, that at least one of the anti-immigrant militia members was holding a rosary? I mean, I get the point that both groups were Christians but anti-immigrant extremism in the US has almost always had anti-Catholic sentiments as a major part of their ideology. Of course, I'm not saying Catholics can't be anti-immigrant but the kind of people who would organize an actual death squad don't seem like they'd be too happy to allow Catholics into their club. It just seems like the writers wanted to make the point that both groups were Christians and used the rosary as a convenient symbol of that, either without realizing that it's a specifically Catholic symbol or without realizing the history of anti-Catholic bigotry in American nativist groups from the Know-Nothings to the KKK. quote:Also, I just had a thought, since Jesus is resurrected after three days, I wonder if that's going to be the justification for multiple Jesuses. Like, Mexican Jesus is killed by a militiaman, then three days later Black Jesus appears and is killed by an out of control cop. Then three days later Appalachian Hillbilly Jesus pops up and dies while saving someone from a Nascar crash.
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stereobreadsticks posted:Anyone else find it a little odd, possibly lazy, that at least one of the anti-immigrant militia members was holding a rosary? I mean, I get the point that both groups were Christians but anti-immigrant extremism in the US has almost always had anti-Catholic sentiments as a major part of their ideology. Of course, I'm not saying Catholics can't be anti-immigrant but the kind of people who would organize an actual death squad don't seem like they'd be too happy to allow Catholics into their club. It just seems like the writers wanted to make the point that both groups were Christians and used the rosary as a convenient symbol of that, either without realizing that it's a specifically Catholic symbol or without realizing the history of anti-Catholic bigotry in American nativist groups from the Know-Nothings to the KKK. No, I think crazy Christian idiots in Texas are absolutely forming death squads to kill the Mexican rapists coming into our country illegally.
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Jun 5, 2017 13:03
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GonSmithe posted:No, I think crazy Christian idiots in Texas are absolutely forming death squads to kill the Mexican rapists coming into our country illegally. Stop spoiling the real world, I've only gotten to June of 2017 here.
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Jun 5, 2017 13:09
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GonSmithe posted:No, I think crazy Christian idiots in Texas are absolutely forming death squads to kill the Mexican rapists coming into our country illegally. But don't you know that Catholics aren't Christians?
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Also realized this morning that I'm slighly annoyed that Vulcanus carried a (British) .445 webeley. If there is going to be a god with his name stamped on ammunition and his factory a literal temple with human sacrifices, in America, the god would have carried a 1911.
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Jun 5, 2017 13:31
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OWLS! posted:But don't you know that Catholics aren't Christians? Indeed. I mean, we even drink real human blood during mass!! 
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Jun 5, 2017 13:38
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Desperado Bones posted:Indeed. I mean, we even drink real human blood during mass!! Man, I keep forgetting that actual anti-Catholicism is actually a thing that exists. And uses this exact argument.
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OWLS! posted:Man, I keep forgetting that actual anti-Catholicism is actually a thing that exists. And uses this exact argument. The arguments I hear around here are "Indulgences! Idolatry/Worship of Saints! Pedophiles!".
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OWLS! posted:Man, I keep forgetting that actual anti-Catholicism is actually a thing that exists. And uses this exact argument.  I had evangelical and christian friends lend me their weirdo books,or tell me about the things they would hear in their churches, I remember very well the human blood thing, the thing about the virgin mary being a pagan goddess or something(The same virgin mary, in their same bibles), that we consider saints to be actual gods, something something satanic. And because not many think critically or decide to find out by themselves if it's real or not, they truly believe it.
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OWLS! posted:Also realized this morning that I'm slighly annoyed that Vulcanus carried a (British) .445 webeley. If there is going to be a god with his name stamped on ammunition and his factory a literal temple with human sacrifices, in America, the god would have carried a 1911. I assume it was the best gun they could find for how the scene was written. Although I assume colt made a revolver at one point that opened up the same way.
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Regarding Catholicism and anti-immigrant loons, Iowa's Rep Steve king is Catholic and has blasted Mexicans with "cantaloupe calves" walking bales of weed across the desert saying for every valedictorian there's 100s of drug mules. Recently he said "We can't restore our civilization with someone else's babies." gently caress Steve king, and Catholics like him. That poo poo is not the Catholicism I was raised on. Also OWLS!, Vulcan took something European (the Webley and himself) and made it 'Murican (with .45 caliber rounds and rednecks firing into the air).
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Lepricunt is now my favorite word.
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GonSmithe posted:No, I think crazy Christian idiots in Texas are absolutely forming death squads to kill the Mexican rapists coming into our country illegally. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/undercover-border-militia-immigration-bauer They're typically not religiously-motivated so much as extremely racist, and they're from all over. It's not exactly a stretch to see white, anglo catholics in such a group. I feel obligated to clarify that most of us southwesterners are not like these assholes  Steve Yun posted:Conservative white Jesus going to be strange.... when they announced Jeremy Davies I assumed that would mean he was going to be a liberal white hippie Jesus I think White Jesus and Hippy Jesus are two distinct entities. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Sickening posted:I assume it was the best gun they could find for how the scene was written. Although I assume colt made a revolver at one point that opened up the same way. You could also do the same sort of thing with a classic cowboy revolver of some description (Flick open the loading gate, spin cylinder for bonus points). But I'm just being nitpicky. It was a cool scene.
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Eat This Glob posted:Also OWLS!, Vulcan took something European (the Webley and himself) and made it 'Murican (with .45 caliber rounds and rednecks firing into the air). True on the European becoming American part, except the caliber, the 445 webley is actually an original webley cartridge.  (Yes, I paused the video to take a closer look at the case head, yes, I am a loving nerd to know obscure calibers. Gonna gently caress off back to TFR now).
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I seeeeee.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:37
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I was too excited to see a Webley to think that he should have a 1911 or a SAA or a S&W Model 3 or one of it's derivatives or sub versions, like the Schofield.
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OWLS! posted:True on the European becoming American part, except the caliber, the 445 webley is actually an original webley cartridge. I'll have to go back and look, but I thought Vulcan's revolver had 45 stamped on the casings. But we can bring the discussion to the TFR's movie/show thread to spare these poor people from our gun sperging.
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Bert Roberge posted:Lepercunt is now my favorite word. Fixed.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:12
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The Muslim, the Leprechaun, and The Dead Wife Road Trip is probably some of my favorite TV at the moment. Mad Sweeney's just such a dick to everyone, it's super entertaining to watch.
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That was such a fun episode. Ian McShane is looking pretty feeble these days, so that huge, heavy sword looked really awkward in his hands.
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Dudikoff posted:That was such a fun episode. Ian McShane is looking pretty feeble these days, so that huge, heavy sword looked really awkward in his hands. I'm hoping that's intentional because his character is supposed to be diminished. cool kids inc. posted:The Muslim, the Leprechaun, and The Dead Wife Road Trip is probably some of my favorite TV at the moment. Mad Sweeney's just such a dick to everyone, it's super entertaining to watch. If they just go a little further west we can get the Vegas Road Trip we all want! I mean, she is revisiting her old haunts... 
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:I'm hoping that's intentional because his character is supposed to be diminished. That's what I was thinking. He did move pretty quickly when he needed to.
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Jun 5, 2017 18:54
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He is 74 though.
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Please, again, I beg of thee, tell me where I can get the taxi driver's sweater, it is my only wish
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Jun 5, 2017 20:20
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Capntastic posted:Please, again, I beg of thee, tell me where I can get the taxi driver's sweater, it is my only wish its in ur butt, boy
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Jun 5, 2017 20:28
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"Why do you want to see your genie man again Mr. Cabbie?" "I'm a size queen."
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:o https://twitter.com/MousaKraish/status/871523002533371904
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Jun 5, 2017 20:51
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Not sure what you thought would be achieved by those spoiler tags. 
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Not that I don't believe him, but as soon as that conversation started I knew for an absolute certainty that it would end with Laura saying exactly that, or something very close to it.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:00
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I may be bad at watching TV but is it the first episode in which Mr. Wednesday's right pupil is lighter than the left? If not it was never that conspicuous I think. Progressive condition that worsens as Ragnarok comes closer I guess? Also it's too bad the sword looked ugly and unwieldable, Swearengen just needed a fighting knife...
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I didn't notice Odin's eye until episode 3. I could be wrong but I don't think it was as obvious earlier on. 
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The eye has been getting progressively more noticable as the series progresses, they went out their way for the light to hit his eyes and reflect differently from each one (I'm assuming McShane is wearing a contact). Both eyes moves which real glass eyes dont do as far as I know, but theres really a limited amount they could do about that.
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I thought it was interesting in an episode about resurrection, (Mad Sweeny taking Laura to Kentucky, Mexican Jesus sacrificing himself) that when Laura peeked in on her family it looked like they were painting Easter eggs. Love the little details like that.
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