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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Netflix, youtube, forums, inara, whatever: the second screen is a game changer. OTOH, I can't wait to give it up and switch to VR, so Two computers, three displays. Then again, I'm also going to be building a simulator cockpit as a sort of long-term project and will be throwing in a pair of tablets for Inara and EDDB as well as YouTube and so on.
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Exit Strategy posted:Two computers, three displays. Then again, I'm also going to be building a simulator cockpit as a sort of long-term project and will be throwing in a pair of tablets for Inara and EDDB as well as YouTube and so on. Cyberpunk Status: 
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:holy cow y'all weren't kidding about the DBX being heat resistant. just sat in a star's gravity well filling my tank the the temp didn't get above 70% This. 50ly jump range with engineering, good fsd maneuverability, and gives no fucks about heat. I'm pretty sold on it as my primary "puttering around the black" ship now. The asp has been relegated to intersystem work.
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Zest posted:This. 50ly jump range with engineering, good fsd maneuverability, and gives no fucks about heat. I'm pretty sold on it as my primary "puttering around the black" ship now. The asp has been relegated to intersystem work. If only it didn't scoop like a Xanax'd Sidewinder.  I really want to love my DBX, but compared to my AspX (or even my exploration Hauler) the fueling time is loving intolerable.
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It's true. With an Asp Explorer or Anaconda you can fly such that you never have to stop to scoop. Sometimes when I'm heading somewhere I don't even scan the main star because it would slow me down, just honk and jump while I'm scooping.
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Trustworthy posted:If only it didn't scoop like a Xanax'd Sidewinder. Are you not plotting routes with only scoopable stars?  I'm finding the top-off time tolerable. Usually by the time I honk and check the system map, I'm basically topped off. Will agree that it isn't as fast as a max scoop AspX or Conda though.
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I wish there was more steampunk in Elite, like cogs and top hats and what not
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Jun 5, 2017 18:01
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peter gabriel posted:I wish there was more steampunk in Elite, like cogs and top hats and what not I'm sure Frontier will add that to the store soon
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Jun 5, 2017 18:05
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If Frontier adds steampunk spacesuits to the shop before historical spacesuits I will literally figuratively metaphorically poo poo myself.
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Colonial Air Force posted:I'm sure Frontier will add that to the store soon Cool, then we'll have hats in lieu of actual gameplay
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LostCosmonaut posted:If Frontier adds steampunk spacesuits to the shop before historical spacesuits I will literally figuratively metaphorically poo poo myself. Yeah but I'm thinking if monocles are there then all is forgiven
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peter gabriel posted:Yeah but I'm thinking if monocles are there then all is forgiven All is forgiven for CCP — it'll finally prove that their stupidity was right all along.
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Jun 5, 2017 18:40
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I'd like a huge monocle the goes on front of my space ship and when I shoot lasers they pass through the monocle and get amplified in power
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Jun 5, 2017 18:41
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How quick can you find a group of people to play with? To make a comparison: The Eve goons are currently running a campaign again to recruit new players to their ranks. Is their something remotely similiar in Elite?
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Onkel Hedwig posted:How quick can you find a group of people to play with? Go the private thread (https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3773251) and follow the directions. We have an extremely active Discord that we use to coordinate operations, and it's not hard to find people to join your wing or your multicrew to commit space murders or race SRVs or whatever. You'll also get to see all of Felix Dyson's insanely well-produced mission briefing videos.
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deadly_pudding posted:Go the private thread (https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3773251) and follow the directions. We have an extremely active Discord that we use to coordinate operations, and it's not hard to find people to join your wing or your multicrew to commit space murders or race SRVs or whatever. You'll also get to see all of Felix Dyson's insanely well-produced mission briefing videos. For real. Dude is amazing.
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Thanks, I'll take a look.
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Stellar Forge looking more and more accurate with its hot Jupiters: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/world/hottest-giant-exoplanet-discovery/
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Sixto Lezcano posted:Very With You. If 3rd party tools are The Future, and if fdev isn't gonna make its own tools, then dammit let me check eddb from my cockpit. Exactly this. Despite inara and the other trade-assist sites, Braben flat out stated he won't integrate such tools because he still plays using a pen and paper. He's also stated that he doesn't mind other players using such sites and that everyone should be able to choose how they want to play. Y'know, unless they want to play a game with efficient, useful integrated tools. Hexenritter fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Boogalo posted:One of they key features of 2.3 was those reward missions always showing up. When the patch notes hit, they were just listed as "increased chance of appearing". Check to see if you have any engineer invites or permit invite missions. The rank up missions don't show up if you have engineer invites. Isn't it amazing? You also have to be at least cordial with the minor faction. If all of that is right a rank up mission occurs for me maybe every 2 board refreshes.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Cool, then we'll have hats in lieu of actual gameplay Hey it made Valve a poo poo ton of money.
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So did Thargoids appear in the original Elite? What did they do if so?
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Fojar38 posted:So did Thargoids appear in the original Elite? What did they do if so? They pulled you out of hyper space and attacked you because you were a dirty human.
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I would kill for a top hat, monocle and quilted smoking jacket for my pilot.
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I want a full bomber jacket, silk scarf and flight goggles in order to fly around in my Union Jack Viper.
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Laminar posted:Check to see if you have any engineer invites or permit invite missions. The rank up missions don't show up if you have engineer invites. Isn't it amazing? Thanks for this, I've been working on other stuff and hadn't researched how exactly to rank up yet. It definitely explains why my bar has been at 100% for weeks with no in-game explanation. Guess I get to work on a bunch of engineer missions now.
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Aethernet posted:I want a full bomber jacket, silk scarf and flight goggles in order to fly around in my Union Jack Viper. Excuse me but you're in the wrong service. Space-based warfare is founded on naval regalia. The hat you are looking for is a Bicorne. 
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Good, I'm ready for that cosplay already!
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DreadLlama posted:Excuse me but you're in the wrong service. Space-based warfare is founded on naval regalia. The hat you are looking for is a Bicorne. This is a screenshot of my holo me
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Stellar Forge looking more and more accurate with its hot Jupiters: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/world/hottest-giant-exoplanet-discovery/ I'm wondering if they hired an alien to create stellar forge. Which means we're probably super screwed when heading out towards the Formandine Rift in real life...
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Zest posted:This. 50ly jump range with engineering, good fsd maneuverability, and gives no fucks about heat. I'm pretty sold on it as my primary "puttering around the black" ship now. The asp has been relegated to intersystem work.   But yeah, scooping can be a bit painful. I did 36kly in this DBX and intend to do more now there's better payouts.
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Cancelbot posted:
Seriously. I'm rolling the same distance if I drop the SRV hangar. With dirty drives, it's like landing a black hawk that's more responsive on planetary surfaces, and has enough rear end to take a 60 degree glideslope in and not bump it's rear end. Makes hooning around a bit more fun when your ship can land drat near anywhere  Scoop time didn't really bother me. Just scooped on any star where my d-scanner showed a decent amount of bodies, then spent scoop time comparing likely targets for money/deciding how much of the system to deep-scan. And making 27mil for a 5k LY jaunt is A-okay in my book 
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I'd go for long range, because gently caress having to get within 100ls of an Earth-like when all the planets are 2-3kls apart. I think the time to get there is longer than the scan time.Zest posted:Scoop time didn't really bother me. Just scooped on any star where my d-scanner showed a decent amount of bodies, then spent scoop time comparing likely targets for money/deciding how much of the system to deep-scan. And making 27mil for a 5k LY jaunt is A-okay in my book Yeah I did 36kly as a passenger mission, got 12 million in exploration data pre-2.3  I'm going to be deep scanning everything on this one. Scooting around 3kly out and just hopping from system to system for a week or so.
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Babby gets a Conda PLAN AHEAD WHEN DOING STUPID STUFF LIKE THIS / Piracy Prevention Guide So there's a hauling CG in Yum Kuncabi system. The materials they want are bad - military grade fabrics, reactive armour and performance enhancers. Performance enhancers are the best profit, but even they only have like 2k profit per ton. To compare, a boring Palladium-Slaves route will easily net you over 5k profit per ton and much higher profit/hr, with less risk to boot. Normally, I would simply skip this sort of CG, but because of reasons I decide to commit. First couple of runs are uneventful. I run to some outpost, buy 200 performance enhancers for my trade-fitted Python, fly back uneventfully and sell them. A couple of PvP pirates, but no interdictions. Pretty soon I realize that holy hell, I have 350m credits in the bank. So I decide to upgrade and get myself a trade Anaconda. After all, a trade Anaconda trades in volume and I'll fit it with A6 FSD. That means it will provide to be a useful base for Exploraconda or even a generalist Conda build. Anaconda is expensive. The hull itself runs for about 146m credits, and upgrading thrusters etc. doesn't come cheap either. I took the route to Gentil Hub in Harm, which gives a -15 % discount. I essentially D-rated the ship except for FSD, and filled it to the brim with shield boosters, pulse laser turrets and a A4 shield. I had to jump around a bit to get the FSD, but eventually I had my 448t lightweight tradeaconda with relatively OK jump range and shields that could deter a FdL assault. Or could it? The thing didn't actually do that hot. First, 448t cargo is GREAT. It allowed me to quickly rise to top 10 % of CG commanders while still hauling performance enhancers. But issues remained. Pretty soon I figured out the FSD really, really needed a G5 Increased range modification. I could jump from Yum to target without much of an issue, but getting back was difficult. 448t of cargo + smallish fuel tank meant I had either to sacrifice a whole lotta cargo space for a fuel scoop or a tank, driving my profits/run down. Alternatively, I had to stop to refuel. Of course, in retrospect I realized I hadn't chosen the economical route option in the map  So back to my home base in DF area, module switching and voilá, a multirole fit the Anaconda. Onwards to Combat Aftermaths and Arsenic grind. About 1˝ hours later I fly to Deciat, install the G5 IR modification and well, now I have the range. Back to work. I like to play in Open, since often the encounters with other commanders are actually either fun or exciting. The obvious pinnacle are community goals, filled with role players, griefers, traders, white knights and other idiots. By now, everyone had already flown to Yum. Instead of maybe one CMDR there and another there, the entire system was now chock full of commanders, flying around, interdicting trade ships, NPCs, wanted NPCs and each other. It was essentially impossible to make heads or tails about anything in the scanner. In addition, my Anaconda was a prime target for both players and NPCs. That meant action. A whole lot of action. Dealing with ED PvP piracy is quite simple but fun cat-and-mouse game. First, a pirate generally likes to hang close to either the CG goal or the nav point. He/she can also prowl the shipping lane between the two. If you can quickly move away from the the star's gravity well and just accelerate towards nowhere, you have about 15 seconds where you are highly vulnerable. This is the phase where you get the idea who is actually after you. After that, you start to pick up speed so fast that the pirate will generally give up sooner or later. After all, they can always wait for the next target while you're running for your life/profits. Therefore, you should not aim to shake the pirate with nice tricks, but instead tire the pirate by simply running in a straight line and as fast as you can. You can even use this as a ploy, doing a quick high waking out and back in, now having more room to evade that particular pirate - instancing, obviously, usually destroys this plan. After this blockade run, you just have to plot your way around the system. I try to approach the CG goal from opposite direction, ready to dive into any gravity well or to high-wake away at a moments notice. The last 50ls or so are also very high risk. You pretty much have to fly by the scanner, constantly changing targets. Once you get a knack for it, it becomes really fun. Eventually you will get intercepted. This is unavoidable, since the pirate knows you are trying to hit a particular station and they can just wait in there. This is the part where you have to assess what sort of player you're dealing with. A pirate who opens comms before or immediately after interdiction is generally someone you can deal with with just a small loss of profit, while a silent interdictor Elite Wanted FdL is Big Trouble. If you do not feel comfortable in playing the interdiction game - and it's a high risk/medium reward game - the option is always to submit and then high-wake to another system while boosting and doing evasive manouvers. You can also negotiate with the pirates, which is usually something like 10-30 % of your cargo. It's up to you to accept or refuse, and up to pirate's personal preferences what happens afterwards. Mostly, pirates who intercept and communicate will be happy just to grab some cargo and talk with someone, and in bulk trading I usually submit and talk. If someone opens fire right away it generally means they're in it for a kill, so you should high-wake and fast. And eventually you will run into funny situations or some really weird stuff. First case. Jumping towards CG, I am intercepted by an elite wanted NPC in a FAS. I submit and then proceed to high wake, while testing some prox mines dumping (doesn't work). In CG area I try the big loop, but it doesn't work this time. Three players interdict me - an Orca, a FdL and a FAS. Crap. I decide to cut my engines and see what happens, because running from them will probably result in pretty hefty hull damage. The players demand me to stop and announce this is act of piracy. They do not open fire, instead scanning my cargo. I feel pretty good about the whole thing and announce I had no intention to run. After all, I have 432t of performance enhancers and losing a few dozen k profits is still cheaper than repairs or rebuy. Whatever. Suddenly, the drat NPC I had left behind earlier pops in, makes demands, bugs out and opens fire. I ask the nice player pirates to kill the NPC so we can finish the entire mugging. They apparently agree, because without the word, first one leaves to kill it.... then the second pirate leaves... as well as the third one. In disbelief, I watch as they all attack the FAS. Soon, they all are about 6km away and increasing range. I plot next system and engage hyperdrive. The last thing I see in my chat are hastily written messages "stop", "do not move" before the high wake kicks in and I leave the system. Got a pretty good laugh out of that. I do not see the commanders again until couple of days later. Second case. Again in Yum, and I'm being followed by FdLs and a DB, can't remember which one. FdL turns away, but the DB sticks to me and finally gets close enough to interdict me. Interested in what will happen, I submit and open comms. What the hell does a Diamondback want? Instead of answering or opening the comms, the DB attacks me. It does this by pew-pewing me with some highly inefficient pulse laser and performing mostly inaccurate mine-dropping strafing runs. The effect on my shields is practically zero. Every now and then it's strafing in circles, wobbling horribly, all around me. I watch the show and try to figure out whether it's playing time or simply testing some build. No one arrives and the DB is not shown to be in a wing. After several of the strafing runs and no comms from the DB I grow bored and deploy hardpoints. The DB is running cold shieldless build. I blast it a couple of times, bringing it down to 80+% hull strength. This does nothing to deter the DB, which continues the weird performance. I decide to carry on with my trading and engage supercruise. After 1 minute the DB is again on my six, again intercepting me, and again not answering any comms. I play the interdict minigame, and win  Maybe he was testing a build?Third case: Murderhobos galore. Dropping in to Yum, I hit an instance filled with nefariously named FdLs, FASs and Cutters. A FdL greets me, tells me to FLY SAFE, and disappears. It appears again near Harmony, only to interdict me. Since it had shown interest in comms, I submit and greet. The FdL immediately opens fire. I high-wake, noticing afterwards that the FdL had used some hyperdrive-shredding poo poo that had brought my FSD down to 53 % integrity while not doing anything to my hull. Fourth case: A novice cobra challenges me to a duel over chat. I accept. 90 % hull integrity cuts it off and if he wins, he get's 15t of my cargo. We do our little dance routine. Cobra is filled with Packhounds and does FA off, but still shows a novice rating. I suspect some sort of weird foul play here. Eventually, I win by the virtue of being a big thing. I still give him the 15t of cargo because it was fun. Of course, I forgot to turn crime reporting off and the cops show up. Case five: Two commanders in a wing intercept me. They announce intentions - piracy. I submit and cut throttle. The first commander starts to place demands - and then his/her wingman starts to attack me. "You'll have to excuse my wingman, he's new to this stuff", the talky commander tries to explain, "please stop". Since I'm getting shot by some random dude, I have absolutely NO INTENTION of staying there. Off I go. During my maybe 25 trade runs, I got killed 0 times, badly damaged once by a NPC (got cocky), dodged a bullet once and had several fun interactions with other players. While CG bulk trading in Open is risky, it's also pretty fun, and teaches you a lot with how to deal with pirates and other players. And if you're a pirate - announce intentions and ask for about 10-15 % of cargo and you'll probably get it easier than by force (unless you're doing the hatch breaker limpet thing). El Perkele fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Sir this is a Chik Fil A lobby.
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Aethernet posted:What are people's views on the best detailed scanner mod? I've gone for reduced scan time, but I wonder whether long range wouldn't have the same effect. In theory I was a proponent of the long range mod, but I brought a Grade 5 speed-scanner with me on my current expedition, and I have to admit that it's pretty great. I occasionally have to fly closer than I'd like to lil' water worlds, earthlikes, and such, but the more common star, gas giant, etc. scans are like BAM BAM BAM BAM
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Aethernet posted:What are people's views on the best detailed scanner mod? I've gone for reduced scan time, but I wonder whether long range wouldn't have the same effect. Trustworthy posted:In theory I was a proponent of the long range mod, but I brought a Grade 5 speed-scanner with me on my current expedition, and I have to admit that it's pretty great. I occasionally have to fly closer than I'd like to lil' water worlds, earthlikes, and such, but the more common star, gas giant, etc. scans are like BAM BAM BAM BAM I think it really depends on play-style. I like to scan all-the-things, especially those gas giants, so long-range works really well for me. Not having to get into the gravity well to scan really speeds up my jaunt around a system. Being able to pick up stars from 10Kls+ away is insanity... On the other hand, the speed mod is great if you are doing travel or only want to scan really valuable objects. You can stellar parkour and still grab the main star. With payouts these days, this play-style is worth around 1.5M/kly in my experience.
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