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I'm gearing up for my second run, I think I'm gonna make Tobin a Mage this time to get some more utility out of him. he's got a pretty decent spell list. Faye stays as a cleric, too useful like that
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Tobin is way better as mage because Excaliber is a great early-midgame spell and Physic keeps him relevant after that. Neither Kliff or Tobin are going to be better than female mages so him falling off at endgame isn't a big deal.
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Jun 5, 2017 19:51
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Seconding Mage Tobin for the reasons Tae mentioned above. I've got a Mage Kliff and Tobin, plus Cleric Faye on this run, and nothing but smooth sailing for those three. Their spell list matches story progression pretty well.
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Jun 5, 2017 20:57
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I definitely felt like I was hurting for ways to hit RES instead of DEF in Alm's act 2 with only the Levin Sword, Nosferatu, and mage Kliff. I kinda wish Luthier came earlier or something.
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Heaven Spacey posted:I definitely felt like I was hurting for ways to hit RES instead of DEF in Alm's act 2 with only the Levin Sword, Nosferatu, and mage Kliff. I kinda wish Luthier came earlier or something. Don't you get him like 2 maps into Act 2?
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Jun 6, 2017 01:04
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Man, a lot of the recruits in this game are optional, huh. ...how much would I hate myself for doing a minimum recruitment run?
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Jun 6, 2017 01:24
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Watching the credits now Did Kamui found Regna Ferox, hor however you say it? I wonder if there are more easter eggs in the endings that relate to Awakening
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AlphaKretin posted:Man, a lot of the recruits in this game are optional, huh. How do you feel about having absolutely zero healing for either of your armies until your mages promote?  edit: Not only that, you'd be left with six units for Alm's army until endgame, and FOUR units for Celica's army until endgame
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AlphaKretin posted:Man, a lot of the recruits in this game are optional, huh. I think you'd just have Alm, Lukas, Clive and Grey, and Celica, Mae, Boey and Saber. So it'd be pretty goddamn miserable
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Jun 6, 2017 01:33
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Last Celebration posted:I think you'd just have Alm, Lukas, Clive and Grey, and Celica, Mae, Boey and Saber. So it'd be pretty goddamn miserable Clair and Tobin too for Alm, and eventually Conrad for Celica.
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dmboogie posted:How do you feel about having absolutely zero healing for either of your armies until your mages promote? Celica actually gets healing at level 9.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:39
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Are you supposed to beat Alm's side second? I can't get past this necrodragon mountain.
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RareAcumen posted:Are you supposed to beat Alm's side second? I can't get past this necrodragon mountain. Yeah, it clears up when Celica clears Duma Tower. I was confused at how much shorter her side in Act 4 was before I realised that. E: or it felt shorter, at least.
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I'm just curious but is it a good idea to promote characters around Level 10 or promote them on later levels?
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Pyro Jack posted:I'm just curious but is it a good idea to promote characters around Level 10 or promote them on later levels? As soon as possible. The way promotion gains work and the low growth rates add up to make early promotion as appealing as it has ever been.
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Pyro Jack posted:I'm just curious but is it a good idea to promote characters around Level 10 or promote them on later levels? Promote literally as soon as possible. This game is an exception to the usual rule
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Pyro Jack posted:I'm just curious but is it a good idea to promote characters around Level 10 or promote them on later levels? 10 also isn't the universal promotion level. Villagers can promote at 3, Merc/Cav/Knight/Archers at 7 etc. The game will tell you.
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Just got to the first blacksmiths. I made a rusted shield into a steel shield but I can't find a guide about forging. Should I bother with this now, or leave it until later? I don't have much in the way of silver coins, really.
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Reinanigans posted:Just got to the first blacksmiths. I made a rusted shield into a steel shield but I can't find a guide about forging. Should I bother with this now, or leave it until later? I don't have much in the way of silver coins, really. if your archers are good you'll want to invest in turning the steel bow into a killer bow to make life somewhat easier. hunter's volley is a great skill
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Reinanigans posted:Just got to the first blacksmiths. I made a rusted shield into a steel shield but I can't find a guide about forging. Should I bother with this now, or leave it until later? I don't have much in the way of silver coins, really. https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/miscellaneous/forging/ That page contains forging costs for each weapon as well as weapon transformation requirements. "Effetive against X" weapons are great investments for both sides; Alm fights a lot of cavalries so Ridersbane (and to a lesser extent Rapier) is a great forge candidate for his route, while Celica fights a lot of Terrors so forged Blessed weapons helps her a lot. It's also a good idea to forge Brave Swords from your Steel/Silver/etc Swords depending on how many Mercenaries you're using, because they're basically the best non-unique sword for the campaign. And the faster you can make a Killer Bow for your Archers, the faster they can unlock the best bow skill in the game. (Hunter's Volley, which is a double attack skill) It's hard to say whether you should bother with it now or later since it kinda depends on which classes you made your villagers and also your funds, but hopefully all that is enough for you to make a decision. blizzardvizard fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Also something the game is godawful at explaining is that you can upgrade most weapons once they have one star, so an Iron Bow* can just be upgraded to a Steel Bow, and a Steel Bow* can be upgraded to a Silver, and a Silver Bow* becomes the killer. So unless you really like the iron bow's +30 hit skill don't upgrade it more than once. And the Golden Dagger Celica stars with becomes a unique sword for her at two stars. Edit: Mostly beaten, that's what I get for taking so long.
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Rapiers probably aren't worth it in the long run unless for whatever reason your Mages all get completely screwed by the RNG. They're way better at being Knight killers than Rapiers are.
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Carlosologist posted:if your archers are good you'll want to invest in turning the steel bow into a killer bow to make life somewhat easier. hunter's volley is a great skill Even if your archers are poo poo, a killer bow makes them very useful. The killer bow skill is wonderful for killing enemy wizards and practically mandatory for your archers to not suck. It's pricey, but id forge killer bows for any archers you have. Also shadow swords make godly brave swords. The ridersbane becomes Rompaia, which has a skill that adds speed to attack (making Clair beautiful death from above).
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confessions of the last run: I didn't know the Seabound Shrine had a back to it, and I didn't recruit Python my first time around missed out on the Blessed Sword too
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Is there an unlockable difficulty or is hard as difficult as this game gets?
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Hard is the highest difficulty.
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People in the thread said that you could go to the Dragon Shrine without Atlas and the Peg Sisters leaving, but they both did for me after I fought Blake.  Kind of annoying, I want to make Atlas into a non-crappy unit.
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irlZaphod posted:People in the thread said that you could go to the Dragon Shrine without Atlas and the Peg Sisters leaving, but they both did for me after I fought Blake. B) if you try to go to the dragon shrine, they'll leave. you can pick them back up, and they won't leave when you go to the dragon shrine this time.
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irlZaphod posted:People in the thread said that you could go to the Dragon Shrine without Atlas and the Peg Sisters leaving, but they both did for me after I fought Blake. Re-recruit them, then go to the shrine
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You can go to the Sea Shrine below to promote Atlas and neither him nor the sisters will leave efb, twice
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Ah ok thanks. It's just a pain moving around the map when the enemies will spawn and start getting in your way.
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I made Atlas a Cav... I figured I already have 2 Mercs/Myrmidons in Celica's army. I thought a Cav might be useful (although the Pegasus Knights are there too). We'll see how it works out anyway.
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Might be a bad time to tell you that Celica's maps are basically 60% bad terrain and swamps
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poo poo. I kind of forgot that people had been complaining about desert and poison swamps.
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Those forks are rather useful. Got Valbar to Baron for all the statups then forked him into cav. All the tankiness of the knight, with actual mobility.
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Make any of the barons into dread fighters and they're basically unkillable.
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Strange Quark posted:Make any of the barons into dread fighters and they're basically unkillable. Celica's already choked on dread fighters. There's only so many swords to go around. Speaking of which, I just found a quest for 5 steel lances. Are they a random drop somewhere or craftable or something that I missed on my first playthrough? I didn't think there were 5 in the game.
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I found a rusted bow in a random crate before, but that was uh, the bottom floor of Thabes.
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Man, thank god I don't.have to beat Jedah here. All of two of Celica's army have more than 20 speed.
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Uh is the Shadow Sword worth using? It seems like it's not if it has the chance of killing myself.
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