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I'm sorry but why the gently caress should anyone get PPV points with less than 100k buys
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Jun 6, 2017 17:01
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sportsgenius86 posted:I don't blame the guy at all. He should try to make as much money as possible. And I feel he absolutely deserves PPV points. The best fighter in the world should make more money per fight than Phil Brooks. The UFC can afford it. Auron posted:I'm sorry but why the gently caress should anyone get PPV points with less than 100k buys Why is the UFC refusing to give him points if he's getting less than 100k buys?
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Jun 6, 2017 17:01
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Veskit posted:I've been following it enough but i severely doubt that there's a written minimum that you are allowed to get points on a PPV fight during the negotiations of the fight itself. There's a difference between you get no points on the fight, and you'll start accruing points when you hit this amount of buys. If you think about it that's not even enforceable If you go back one page you'll see a copy-and-paste from a UFC contract that shows exactly what that scale is.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:02
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Tezcatlipoca posted:The best fighter in the world should make more money per fight than Phil Brooks. The UFC can afford it. And Bryan Cranston should've made more money for Breaking Bad than Kevin James does for his trainwreck piece of poo poo but that's not how the world works.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:03
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Look how dumb this is. I can't even parse it
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Jun 6, 2017 17:03
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It seems like the simple answer would be to put DJ on a card with another big(ger) fight. Why should he have to carry the card himself to make money?
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Jun 6, 2017 17:07
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Veskit posted:I've been following it enough but i severely doubt that there's a written minimum that you are allowed to get points on a PPV fight during the negotiations of the fight itself. There's a difference between you get no points on the fight, and you'll start accruing points when you hit this amount of buys. If you think about it that's not even enforceable look up Eddie Alvarez' contract offer that came out when he was suing Bellator. PPV points are tiered in that more buys = you get more money, but you've got to cross a 200k buys threshold to get paid on points. Tezcatlipoca posted:Why is the UFC refusing to give him points if he's getting less than 100k buys? Because it's in the contract he signed.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:08
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the PPV points setup has been basically the same forever. We first saw the structure back when Randy was having a contract spat with the UFC.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:10
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...and the pitch! posted:It seems like the simple answer would be to put DJ on a card with another big(ger) fight. Why should he have to carry the card himself to make money? Why should he get paid more for someone else drawing a bunch of people?
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Jun 6, 2017 17:11
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sportsgenius86 posted:Why should he get paid more for someone else drawing a bunch of people? Why should Gunnar Nelson? It makes the card better if there is a title defense on it. edit: Gunnar probably didn't make points. I'm not sure what mine is. Sweaty IT Nerd fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Jun 6, 2017 17:17
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sportsgenius86 posted:And Bryan Cranston should've made more money for Breaking Bad than Kevin James does for his trainwreck piece of poo poo but that's not how the world works. If we stick with sports, sportsgenius86, than the best athletes usually do net the most money.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:28
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The Dave posted:If we stick with sports, sportsgenius86, than the best athletes usually do net the most money. DJ isn't one of the best athletes. He's the boss of a weird freak division that nobody likes. Actually good athletes would easily beat him, due to him weighing less than the weight of my sins, as measured against a feather.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:31
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I just hope DJ doesn't have to go back to work at the box factory.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:31
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sportsgenius86 posted:Why should he get paid more for someone else drawing a bunch of people? Why do you think DC was so drat happy to be on a card with Brock Lesnar? Actually why was everyone on that main card happy as poo poo? Everybody makes money even if you aren't the main draw. This is the only way for DJ to make more money. He's not going to draw a PPV by himself, ever. I don't give a poo poo if you're the best fighter on the planet, if you don't bring in the money, how do we pay you fuckloads of money?
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Jun 6, 2017 17:35
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The Dave posted:If we stick with sports, sportsgenius86, than the best athletes usually do net the most money. This is a good point if we ignore like the entire history of combat sports.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:35
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1st AD posted:look up Eddie Alvarez' contract offer that came out when he was suing Bellator. PPV points are tiered in that more buys = you get more money, but you've got to cross a 200k buys threshold to get paid on points. Yeah I saw that but that's not really what Dana said is it?
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Jun 6, 2017 17:37
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Auron posted:Why do you think DC was so drat happy to be on a card with Brock Lesnar? Actually why was everyone on that main card happy as poo poo? Everybody makes money even if you aren't the main draw. It's not the only way for Cormier to make more money though. Would he make more than normal on a card with Brock? Absolutely. But Cormier was on there to increase the total draw power of the show. He wasn't on there because he draws nothing and they wanted to stash him there to make bank in the name of fairness. The fact that you're admitting it's the only way for DJ to make more money is pretty much proving the UFC's point for them.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:40
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There's a minimum amount of buys you have to hit for points to kick in and Mighty Mouse never hits it. He definitely won't against ray borg
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Jun 6, 2017 17:41
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:I just hope DJ doesn't have to go back to work at the box factory. Me too, bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
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Jun 6, 2017 17:42
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sportsgenius86 posted:The fact that you're admitting it's the only way for DJ to make more money is pretty much proving the UFC's point for them. So you're saying DJ shouldn't try to make more money? I don't understand what you people are arguing.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:43
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I think the does he promote himself and should he get more $$ arguments are a little off base. his main point is hes getting treated badly. like I wouldnt let my boss treat me like that. Anyway whatever
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Jun 6, 2017 17:46
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Tezcatlipoca posted:So you're saying DJ shouldn't try to make more money? I don't understand what you people are arguing. He should try to make as much money as possible. Anyone should. Whether or not anyone should actually give it to you is a completely different argument.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:46
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Lmao Kevin and Skip my Posts are the reasonable ones
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Jun 6, 2017 17:48
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The obvious solution is for him to move up to whateverweight and fight Conor.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:50
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I agree with inri that the 10/10 guys that fill out cards are the ones that really deserve a raise to at least a livable income after training expenses
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Jun 6, 2017 17:53
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DJ probably should try and make more money, instead of complaining that the UFC isn't trying to make him more money hard enough.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:54
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sportsgenius86 posted:It's not the only way for Cormier to make more money though. Would he make more than normal on a card with Brock? Absolutely. But Cormier was on there to increase the total draw power of the show. He wasn't on there because he draws nothing and they wanted to stash him there to make bank in the name of fairness. Right, that's not what I saw saying. I'm saying there's nothing to be ashamed of being thrown on a card with a lot of attention, even if you aren't the main attraction. Yes, I am proving UFC's point that he does not draw on his own, but this is a way for him to make the money he is looking for while making everyone happy. Put him on a stacked card with Brock Lesnar as special guest announcer.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:55
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What's dj get from reebok? Isn't it based on ranking and amount of fights?
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Jun 6, 2017 17:56
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I just realized that Dana White is sending the black beast to murder Mark Hunt in front of his home town this weekend. This has got to be punishment, right? For the lawsuits, criticism, and intention to fight out his contract and leave.
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Jun 6, 2017 18:03
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Skip My Posts posted:What's dj get from reebok? Isn't it based on ranking and amount of fights? As a defending champion, he gets 40k from Reebok per fight. Some of that 40k may be in the form of equipment and apparel.
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Jun 6, 2017 18:05
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Rigel posted:As a defending champion, he gets 40k from Reebok per fight. Some of that 40k may be in the form of equipment and apparel. lol they can send him a bunch of lovely reebok clothes and count it towards his 40k?
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Jun 6, 2017 18:08
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Rigel posted:As a defending champion, he gets 40k from Reebok per fight. Some of that 40k may be in the form of equipment and apparel. A semi truck full of Reebok sneakers and bandanas
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Jun 6, 2017 18:08
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Rigel posted:I just realized that Dana White is sending the black beast to murder Mark Hunt in front of his home town this weekend. The real winners are us, the fans
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Jun 6, 2017 18:11
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Hunt might win they're both sloppy big hitters
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Jun 6, 2017 18:13
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Some of Canelo Alvarez and GGG's PPVs haven't done much better than Mighty Mouse's PPVs, but they still earned a couple million each time. I don't think that wanting the best P4P MMA fighter in the world to make more show money than CM Punk is all that much to ask for, but that's just me.
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Jun 6, 2017 18:14
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I'll have to re-read the statement MM put out, but isn't the gist of what he's complaining about that the UFC is treating him like poo poo by changing opponents on a whim after bout agreements have been sent, going to social media and television to announce his fights without so much as a heads up to him before hand and then painting him as a coward who doesn't want to fight TJ, even though he had originally wanted to fight Cody? On top of all that threatening to scrap the entire division if he doesn't take a fight he thinks makes no sense. If I recall correctly according to DJ he asked for PPV points, was denied, accepted that denial and signed to fight Ray Borg without PPV points. I don't think the lack of PPV points is the main reason he's putting Dana and the UFC on blast. It sounds more like they are just unnecessarily classless in how they treat him, despite him having been a company man for them for years, and DJ just reached a breaking point. threeagainstfour fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Jun 6, 2017 18:20
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The Black Beast is a totally winnable fight for Mark Hunt, even if he isn't quite as durable as he used to be. Lewis punches real hard but is less technical than Hunt. His recent numbers look good, but no one he's beaten has been on a good run recently + they kinda suck.
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Jun 6, 2017 18:22
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Queering Wheel posted:Some of Canelo Alvarez and GGG's PPVs haven't done much better than Mighty Mouse's PPVs, but they still earned a couple million each time. I don't think that wanting the best P4P MMA fighter in the world to make more show money than CM Punk is all that much to ask for, but that's just me. ufc is gonna adopt pro boxing's model so they can die and become irrelevant
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Jun 6, 2017 18:34
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Queering Wheel posted:Some of Canelo Alvarez and GGG's PPVs haven't done much better than Mighty Mouse's PPVs, but they still earned a couple million each time. I don't think that wanting the best P4P MMA fighter in the world to make more show money than CM Punk is all that much to ask for, but that's just me.
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anyone who live through STACKED knows the ufc pushed sean sherk and anderson like crazy even when no one liked them, to the point they tried to put together that event around marketing them more. They filmed sherk working out and said wow this guy works out a lot over and over for two years, even after he got busted roiding, until people actually believed hed beat BJ Penn.
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