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Oh Snapple! posted:particularly since the feeling i got from a decent amount of bernie folks was that bernie was their consolation prize when warren decided not to run That's how it started out for me too. Then I saw how the media was treating him and went full on Bernie.
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I always got the impression that Warren didn't particularly want to leave the Senate, though like so many political decisions made last year it was probably made on the assumption that we'd have President Clinton and possibly a Democratic majority in the Senate, and she'd be in charge of the Finance Committee or something rather than the inspiration for Chelsea Clinton's publishing debut.
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If my plan works out, Buttigieg will be the next governor of NJ.
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docbeard posted:I always got the impression that Warren didn't particularly want to leave the Senate, though like so many political decisions made last year it was probably made on the assumption that we'd have President Clinton and possibly a Democratic majority in the Senate, and she'd be in charge of the Finance Committee or something rather than the inspiration for Chelsea Clinton's publishing debut. "She'd do more good in the Senate anyway" is something I found myself saying a lot in 2015, and in retrospect it was a coping mechanism. Other people were saying it all the time and it'd make me feel better not getting to vote for Liz for president, soooo sure now here it is 2017, we have President Trump, and they gave Harry Reid's job to Chuck Schumer instead of Liz anyway so there's no reason pretending it's still a sentiment that makes any sense. Of course she'd be more useful as President. dear lord, that filter  that poor image file, why would you torture it like this was she like "I wonder what I would look like without a nose" or what
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zegermans posted:If Warren was the nominee I could see her Harvard ethnicity bullshit being turned into the same level of apocalypse as the emails. Trump doesn't just have an anti-mattering field, he also induces mattering into others Part of the reason the emails mattered so much for Hillary is she took forever to own the issue and 'apologize' for it. I don't know if Warren would have dragged her feet quite so long (or quite so badly) on her ethnicity thing. And even then, what really did Hillary in was Even More Emails Being Discovered, and it being part of a FBI investigation in the first place. Would Comey have last-minute found papers that proved Warren had Nazi heritage or something?
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loquacius posted:dear lord, that filter don't parseltongue shame
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the election in fact was rigged, but the riggers were a bunch of slaveowning assholes 250 years ago and not putin last year
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HiHo ChiRho posted:ftfy hahahahaha
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SKULL.GIF posted:Part of the reason the emails mattered so much for Hillary is she took forever to own the issue and 'apologize' for it. I don't know if Warren would have dragged her feet quite so long (or quite so badly) on her ethnicity thing. The emails also fed into a(n accurate) pre-existing narrative re: Hillary's penchant for secrecy and sense of entitlement, which her handling of the whole situation just exacerbated. "Fauxcahontas" is a pretty good portmanteau, but it doesn't really feed into an established story that people have already bought into.
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loquacius posted:dear lord, that filter I for one applaud her and think it's high time more Ichthyoid-Americans spoke out.
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you don't empower women by playing the victim  this neoliberal capitalistic grip on woke feminism is some bullshit, I insist as I kick the back of the airplane seat until I am re-accommodated.
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paranoid randroid posted:lets have an anime argument itt and collapse the whole thing into an infinitely dense Suck Singularity can we have a suck supernova instead those are pretty
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LGD posted:The emails also fed into a(n accurate) pre-existing narrative re: Hillary's penchant for secrecy and sense of entitlement, which her handling of the whole situation just exacerbated. "Fauxcahontas" is a pretty good portmanteau, but it doesn't really feed into an established story that people have already bought into. Call me a hill shill pill but I gave her the benefit of the doubt on things like secrecy on account of spending 30 years having to walk a tightrope where "didn't bake cookies" was considered a major faux pas. Though with that history you'd think she'd have figured out a way to explain it better.
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got any sevens posted:can we have a suck supernova instead the nova happens first. Didn't you ever go on a wikipedia cruise on stellar life cycles when you should have been working? Speaking of which I calculated once that King Kai's planet had a density on the same order of magnitude as a white dwarf, which means it could theoretically exist.
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I'm reading Al Franken's book, and he's talking about how the Democrats offered him 20K to help with legal fees for his recount, while the Republicans had given Coleman 1 million, so Dems abandoning the downticket isn't a new phenomenon lol
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that's strategic abandonment of the downticket by the dccc, I'll have you know, gotta save the millions for where it m- *loses 63 House seats, 10 senate seats, 12 governorships, countless more local positions over 8 years*
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Shear Modulus posted:it's inarguable that hillary has had to put up with a lot of sexist bullshit, but some people went overboard with claiming criticizing hillary on anything, including her policies, was sexist Some idiot actually told me today that since we live in a sexist society, every criticism of her is inherently sexist lol
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zegermans posted:Call me a hill shill pill but I gave her the benefit of the doubt on things like secrecy on account of spending 30 years having to walk a tightrope where "didn't bake cookies" was considered a major faux pas. Though with that history you'd think she'd have figured out a way to explain it better. Yeah that's the one thing that makes it hard to hate Hillary is she was for real forced to become soulless by the politics in most of her life.
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Shear Modulus posted:it's inarguable that hillary has had to put up with a lot of sexist bullshit, but some people went overboard with claiming criticizing hillary on anything, including her policies, was sexist I mean the alternative was actually defending hillary's policies, and as you can see on her website, they are really bad. The depressing thing is that they mirror the official DNC platform in many many ways. The DNC goes a bit deeper into the key issues, and covers more issues, but most of them still suck. Criminal Justice Reform, College, and Housing are particularly terrible for what i'd expect in "the most progressive platform ever."
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Yeah that's the one thing that makes it hard to hate Hillary is she was for real forced to become soulless by the politics in most of her life. Nixon was also apparently a much chiller and less paranoid dude prior to the 1960 election, and Trump's parents were real pieces of work- when someone is running for the most powerful political position on earth I don't think it's a good idea to ignore major negative traits simply because you feel some sympathy for the life circumstances that led to their emergence.
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zegermans posted:Call me a hill shill pill but I gave her the benefit of the doubt on things like secrecy on account of spending 30 years having to walk a tightrope where "didn't bake cookies" was considered a major faux pas. Though with that history you'd think she'd have figured out a way to explain it better. The "30 years of right-wing smears" thing was another black mark on the Clinton wing, as in it was repeatedly brought up by Clintonites to suggest that she was immune to scandal, when really she has always handled scandal really poorly, it just never mattered until now because she'd never been in a contested election before (except the one from 2008 which she lost) Shear Modulus posted:it's inarguable that hillary has had to put up with a lot of sexist bullshit, but some people went overboard with claiming criticizing hillary on anything, including her policies, was sexist multiple people I know IRL got really mad at me upon hearing I liked Bernie, with no further information, because it meant I was sexist
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Shear Modulus posted:it's inarguable that hillary has had to put up with a lot of sexist bullshit, but some people went overboard with claiming criticizing hillary on anything, including her policies, was sexist It was and is dumb. They treat her like a downtrodden and plucky upstart, and not the uber-rich, uber-powerful behemoth that she actually is.
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LGD posted:Nixon was also apparently a much chiller and less paranoid dude prior to the 1960 election, and Trump's parents were real pieces of work- when someone is running for the most powerful political position on earth I don't think it's a good idea to ignore major negative traits simply because you feel some sympathy for the life circumstances that led to their emergence. I didn't say ignore them.
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Lol was this ever posted https://twitter.com/therealroseanne/status/861705175395844096
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Al! posted:i totally forgot that jill stein was also linked to russia lol literally everyone who criticized or opposed hillary was painted as a russian agent
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Exclusive: XXX says Democratic election attacks were 'much broader' than DNC document shows AKA = election was rigged.
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Al! posted:i totally forgot that jill stein was also linked to russia lol a lotta rubes for rubles
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